Scripture readings for Christmas

(21-03-2025, 04:16 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Christians are not bound by Jewish Law lah! Big Grin Legalism is not applicable to us lah!

Jewish Law, aka Mosaic Law is from God, correct?

So whose law are you following?
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(21-03-2025, 04:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jewish Law, aka Mosaic Law is from God, correct?

So whose law are you following?

Christians are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ lah! Big Grin By law, we are ALL sinners doomed for eternal destruction but by grace we are saved lah!
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(21-03-2025, 04:22 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Christians are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ lah! Big Grin By law, we are ALL sinners doomed for eternal destruction but by grace we are saved lah!

Ok. So you are lawless, known in the words of Jesus as 'workers of iniquity".

According to Psalm, God hates people like you.
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(21-03-2025, 04:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. So you are lawless, known in the words of Jesus as 'workers of iniquity".

According to Psalm, God hates people like you.

Jesus is God in Man lah! Big Grin "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us."
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(21-03-2025, 04:29 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Jesus is God in Man lah! Big Grin "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us."

Ok. I already know what you believe.

What I'm sure you don't know is the verse in Psalm which states that God hates workers of iniquity. That is in Psalm 5.

Today, you've admitted that you don't follow God's law anymore. So I must inform you that God hates people like you.
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CKPM is an example of Christians who have abandoned God's law and live by man-made law instead. If PAP made a law to wear masks, they obey. But God's law they discard.

Wake up pengyu.
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Wow muh last words ?

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSMourHkF/

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-03-2025, 07:30 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Wow muh last words ?

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSMourHkF/

This lady has strange logic  Big Grin In other videos she said Muhammad police be upon him served Satan and God together and got punished  Big Grin
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(21-03-2025, 07:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This lady has strange logic  Big Grin In other videos she said Muhammad police be upon him served Satan and God together and got punished  Big Grin

Big Grin

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Where is Hope? Suffered from fasting? He is less active during Ramadan.....
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(21-03-2025, 04:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. I already know what you believe.

What I'm sure you don't know is the verse in Psalm which states that God hates workers of iniquity. That is in Psalm 5.

Today, you've admitted that you don't follow God's law anymore. So I must inform you that God hates people like you.

I have nothing more to say lah! Big Grin
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(21-03-2025, 08:30 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I have nothing more to say lah! Big Grin

Don worry...he is no saint Big Grin
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Interesting must watch 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSMoXWDhS/

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-03-2025, 11:23 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You should not use the Pharisees to argue for your faith. They were Jesus's enemies and they accused him of all sorts of things. You would reject all the other accusations against Jesus the Pharisees made. But you will readily stand with them when they accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Why? The answer is clear.

But again, did Jesus deny their accusation? Did he counter their accusation with an argument? Yes and yes. 

So there, Jesus never once said "I am God". And when the Pharisees accused him of claiming to be God, he rejected it. Who told you to believe Jesus is God?


John chapter 10 gives a straightforward account of the exchange of words between the Jews and Jesus - nothing complicated. As the story unfolds, Jesus is condemned by the Jews for blasphemy when He says He and His Father are one, and He does good works in His Father's name. He adds that when His sheep hear His voice, He'll know them and gives them eternal life.

For that the Jews takes up stones to stone Him, saying, "For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God" (v.33). Jesus further enrages the Jews by uttering words like "The Father is in me, and I am in Him." The Jews "sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand" (v.39)

Jesus's words in bold affirm His deity while the Pharisees mistakenly believed He was a mere mortal claiming immortality, which was considered blasphemous. Of course you see the situation differently. As a bred-in-the-bone Muslim, you do not believe Jesus is God and therefore you're apt to reject all textual evidences pointing to His divinity. There are tons of texts I'd like to show, but knowing you, you'll pooh-pooh them all. You've insisted on seeing Jesus's self-proclaimed words "I'm God" in order to believe. I'll bet you'll still deny even if Jesus had spoken these words. Your mind is closed.

Separately, the Pharisees weren't really Jesus's enemies as you claim. Many have the wrong idea about Pharisees, equating their moral character with that of used car salesmen. They were committed to sharing their sincere love for God by trying their hardest to observe every part of the Mosaic law although some were self-righteous.

If any person was able to qualify for heaven by his sincere love for God and his careful observance of God's laws, it should have been Nicodemus, a person described by John as "a man of the Pharisees" and "a ruler of the Jews" (John 3:1). Yet Jesus said to Nicodemus, "You must be born again" (v.7). Jesus said that even a leader of God's chosen nation, Israel, still needed to place complete faith in Him to secure eternal life.
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Lily Jay converted a girl in Taiwan




By the ˹passage of˺ time!
Surely humanity is in ˹grave˺ loss,
except those who have faith, do good, and urge each other to the truth, and urge each other to perseverance.”Quran 103:1-3



O believers! Whoever among you abandons their faith, Allah will replace them with others who love Him and are loved by Him. They will be humble with the believers but firm towards the disbelievers, struggling in the Way of Allah; fearing no blame from anyone. This is the favour of Allah. He grants it to whoever He wills. And Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.Quran 5:54



https://youtu.be/1yXq4Ipp5t8?si=nC0mIrexIKwiU0FS
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(22-03-2025, 02:12 AM)Hope Wrote:  Lily Jay converted a girl in Taiwan




By the ˹passage of˺ time!
Surely humanity is in ˹grave˺ loss,
except those who have faith, do good, and urge each other to the truth, and urge each other to perseverance.”Quran 103:1-3



O believers! Whoever among you abandons their faith, Allah will replace them with others who love Him and are loved by Him. They will be humble with the believers but firm towards the disbelievers, struggling in the Way of Allah; fearing no blame from anyone. This is the favour of Allah. He grants it to whoever He wills. And Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.Quran 5:54



https://youtu.be/1yXq4Ipp5t8?si=nC0mIrexIKwiU0FS

I am convinced that you are a lady
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https://youtube.com/shorts/JpvTDGNJBUY?s...EjHjvKP9A6
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(22-03-2025, 01:58 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  John chapter 10 gives a straightforward account of the exchange of words between the Jews and Jesus - nothing complicated. As the story unfolds, Jesus is condemned by the Jews for blasphemy when He says He and His Father are one, and He does good works in His Father's name. He adds that when His sheep hear His voice, He'll know them and gives them eternal life.

For that the Jews takes up stones to stone Him, saying, "For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God" (v.33). Jesus further enrages the Jews by uttering words like "The Father is in me, and I am in Him." The Jews "sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand" (v.39)

Jesus's words in bold affirm His deity while the Pharisees mistakenly believed He was a mere mortal claiming immortality, which was considered blasphemous. Of course you see the situation differently. As a bred-in-the-bone Muslim, you do not believe Jesus is God and therefore you're apt to reject all textual evidences pointing to His divinity. There are tons of texts I'd like to show, but knowing you, you'll pooh-pooh them all. You've insisted on seeing Jesus's self-proclaimed words "I'm God" in order to believe. I'll bet you'll still deny even if Jesus had spoken these words. Your mind is closed.

Separately, the Pharisees weren't really Jesus's enemies as you claim. Many have the wrong idea about Pharisees, equating their moral character with that of used car salesmen. They were committed to sharing their sincere love for God by trying their hardest to observe every part of the Mosaic law although some were self-righteous.

If any person was able to qualify for heaven by his sincere love for God and his careful observance of God's laws, it should have been Nicodemus, a person described by John as "a man of the Pharisees" and "a ruler of the Jews" (John 3:1). Yet Jesus said to Nicodemus, "You must be born again" (v.7). Jesus said that even a leader of God's chosen nation, Israel, still needed to place complete faith in Him to secure eternal life.

When Jesus said "The Father is in me and I am in him", that's ambiguous. Furthermore, Jesus also said the disciples will be in Jesus and the Father. So you must be careful interpreting that "in". Similarly the "... are one" part. Jesus said the disciples would also be one with Jesus and the Father. You need to be careful interpreting it.

If Jesus is God and believing that is critical to salvation, why would he say it in a cryptic message like those you bolded? And if we cannot decipher the cryptic message or get the hint that he is God, for no fault of ours, we are condemned to hell. Is that a merciful God? On top of that, why didn't Jesus make sure his message that he is God is preserved such that we can be sure of his words and not some interpreters or historians who may have misunderstood his words?

And remember the logical problem of the Trinity and the incarnation. God made us such that we will reject what is illogical. How then can God expect us to believe in something about him that is illogical?
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Jesus is the source of eternal salvation for all who obey Him (Hebrews 5:9), so obey Jesus lah! Big Grin
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(22-03-2025, 01:58 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  John chapter 10 gives a straightforward account of the exchange of words between the Jews and Jesus - nothing complicated. As the story unfolds, Jesus is condemned by the Jews for blasphemy when He says He and His Father are one, and He does good works in His Father's name. He adds that when His sheep hear His voice, He'll know them and gives them eternal life.

For that the Jews takes up stones to stone Him, saying, "For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God" (v.33). Jesus further enrages the Jews by uttering words like "The Father is in me, and I am in Him." The Jews "sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand" (v.39)

Jesus's words in bold affirm His deity while the Pharisees mistakenly believed He was a mere mortal claiming immortality, which was considered blasphemous. Of course you see the situation differently. As a bred-in-the-bone Muslim, you do not believe Jesus is God and therefore you're apt to reject all textual evidences pointing to His divinity. There are tons of texts I'd like to show, but knowing you, you'll pooh-pooh them all. You've insisted on seeing Jesus's self-proclaimed words "I'm God" in order to believe. I'll bet you'll still deny even if Jesus had spoken these words. Your mind is closed.

Separately, the Pharisees weren't really Jesus's enemies as you claim. Many have the wrong idea about Pharisees, equating their moral character with that of used car salesmen. They were committed to sharing their sincere love for God by trying their hardest to observe every part of the Mosaic law although some were self-righteous.

If any person was able to qualify for heaven by his sincere love for God and his careful observance of God's laws, it should have been Nicodemus, a person described by John as "a man of the Pharisees" and "a ruler of the Jews" (John 3:1). Yet Jesus said to Nicodemus, "You must be born again" (v.7). Jesus said that even a leader of God's chosen nation, Israel, still needed to place complete faith in Him to secure eternal life.

Why some people cannot believe and accept that Jesus is God leh? Thinking They just refuse to believe and accept the truth lah! Big Grin
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(22-03-2025, 07:34 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Why some people cannot believe and accept that Jesus is God leh? Thinking They just refuse to believe and accept the truth lah! Big Grin

Because it is illogical to believe in a square circle.

Because the Bible already states that God is NOT a man.

Because the Bible already states that God cannot be seen.

Because Jesus already said only the Father is the true God.

Because God cannot have a God and Jesus has a God.

Because God cannot die as stated in 1 Tim 6:16 but you believe God died.

Those are just off the top of my head. If I look up, I will have plenty more reasons that i can show you.
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(22-03-2025, 07:27 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Jesus is the source of eternal salvation for all who obey Him (Hebrews 5:9), so obey Jesus lah! Big Grin

If you obey Jesus, you would not be a Christian or believe Jesus is God.

Jesus said obey the commandments for your salvation. Paul said no need to obey the commandments. You listen to Paul instead of Jesus.

Wake up pengyu.
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The Quran uses the plural form "We" in various verses when Allah speaks...who can understand why ?God made us such that we will reject what is illogical...How then can God expect us to believe in something about him that is illogical...Is Allah make up of of plurality? 

The predominant portrayal of God in both the Old Testament and the New Testament is singular.... Christianity is Tawhid...Islam is plural Big Grin
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God appeared as a man on so many occasions..don just say something without providing your sources....
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(22-03-2025, 05:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I am convinced that you are a lady

Told u already lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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God looks at your heart who is your master?not who wins in the argument 
Do you love and fear Him?
A moslem  will never agrees with Christians 
They are taught by different prophet who know no better than Christ Himself 
If you follow the shepherd u will be safely guarded 
If u follow the wolf u gg to be eaten up simple as that 
The sheep knows the wolf n will not follow 
The sheep knows the Sheperd and follow Him 
😊

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-03-2025, 09:29 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God looks at your heart who is your master?not who wins in the argument 
Do you love and fear Him?
A moslem  will never agrees with Christians 
They are taught by different prophet who know no better than Christ Himself 
If you follow the shepherd u will be safely guarded 
If u follow the wolf u gg to be eaten up simple as that 
The sheep knows the wolf n will not follow 
The sheep knows the Sheperd and follow Him 
😊

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(22-03-2025, 09:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Told u already lol

Guys usually use a strong masculine username but Hope seem like a soft feminine name ...I cannot imagine a bearded moslem man using this name  Big Grin
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https://youtu.be/1yXq4Ipp5t8

She went to shabu shabu place 
Saw pork?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-03-2025, 09:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Guys usually use a strong masculine username but Hope seem like a soft feminine name ...I cannot imagine a bearded moslem man using this name  Big Grin
Hope is woman like to use 
The way she answers I knew she can’t be a man 
Or ark Gua?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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