[Ali Imran]

It's tragic that one of the loveliest words of the NT should be the subject of controversy. As you may recall, we had a previous disagreement in another theological thread over the word "grace," with OYK chiming in and making himself heard loud and clear. You seem unable to draw a distinction between doing something to deserve grace and doing something to receive grace. We both know "grace" for Muslims is an expression of Allah's mercy shown to His followers sans Christ, but human activity is involved, such as rule-keeping and obedience to God's laws so as to curry God's favour. For Christian believers, grace is particularly linked to the Saviour and to salvation. I'll try to make our concept of "receiving grace" easier for seven-year-olds to understand, and will write in the first-person singular.

As part of the process of being saved, I was given new, spiritual life, which enabled me to confess my sins and place my trust and hope in Jesus. This is what the Bible calls being "born again." The Spirit of God made me alive when I was spiritually dead in my sins and totally helpless. I thank Him for His grace. I'm no longer powerless and enslaved to sin.

As a result of my initial trust in Christ, my sins were forgiven because Jesus died to pay the penalty for those sins. But there's even more - I'm now viewed by God as if I've lived a perfect life, because Jesus lived a perfect life in my place. Not only has my debt been erased, but I've been given all of Christ's assets - His righteousness, so I can step off the treadmill of perfectionism and enjoy freedom. God forgave my sins and treats me as righteous because He loves me. I thank Him for His grace. I'm fully accepted by God and don't have to curry His favour.

At the very moment that I trusted in Christ, I was "adopted" by God. I've moved out of the courthouse, where He sits as Judge, and I've been welcomed into the family home, where He embraces me as my Father. I've also become part of a large family of brothers and sisters who are all united to Jesus - the body of Christ. And the Holy Spirit is within me, enabling me to talk to God as my Father day by day. I thank Him for His grace.

Now that God has adopted me, He's committed to sanctifying me. He has given me the Holy Spirit, who gives me a new power and ability to fight sin
through the practice of daily repentance and faith. Many's the time the path is slow and difficult; at other times I experience "growth spurts." Although I often stumble and need to come to God for forgiveness, He will grant it. He won't give up on me. He's changing me because He loves me. I thank Him for His grace. I'm no longer preprogrammed to sin. I don't need to stay stuck, I can change!

God is going to finish what He started in me (Phil 1:6). I'm in a spiritual war that won't end until I die or Jesus returns (Eph 6:10-18). My enemies are the world (the world around us that is at odds with God), the flesh (remaining sin in me that's not yet completely eradicated), and the devil (the one who would love to derail my faith). But those who truly belong to Jesus will never be defeated. No one can snatch me from the Father's hand once I belong to Him (John 10:28). So I take courage as I continue to fight the good fight. I thank Him for His grace. God is working in me to enable me to persevere until the very end.

I've His promise that one day I'll be completely transformed into the glorious likeness of Jesus. I'll spend eternity in the company of the true and living God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) as well as  with my brothers and sisters in Christ, in a wonderful new creation. One day, all traces of sin will be done away with and joy will be all that remains! God will wipe away every tear and completely eradicate sin and suffering because He loves me. I thank Him for His grace.

You didn't really answer the question. 

Let me make it easier for you. If you want your 7-year-old son to be on God's gracious side, what would you make him do?

[S I M T A N]

You didn't really answer the question. 

Let me make it easier for you. If you want your 7-year-old son to be on God's gracious side, what would you make him do?

I would never say to my child, "When you learn all the rules, I'll accept you as a child." On the contrary, fathers are delighted with infants, and they'll accept them from birth. A child who grows up in a home where he's not accepted will encounter problems while a child who's immediately accepted grows up desiring to do his father's will. Though he may fall and make mistakes, his father cannot reject him as his child. The father says, "You have made many mistakes but come; we'll start afresh."

Acceptance is the basis of our righteousness in Christ, and we receive acceptance not through works or rules, but from God in faith. We move from acceptance into righteousness, growing in our resemblance to Christ. Eph 4:15; Phil 3:7-14. God's righteousness is dynamic and progressive, not static or stationary. We grow in Christ as children in our Father's home. This is spiritual longlife growth.

[cheekopekman]

What if some one from your mission trip ask you a question that you can't answe?

Then I must tell the truth that I don't know the answer lah!  Why must I pretend to know everything leh?

[pinkpanther]

Then I must tell the truth that I don't know the answer lah!  Why must I pretend to know everything leh?

You must say you check with your pastor first...if you say you don know...the moslem will say " bro, I will explain the Quran to you, it is fully detailed" 

[Lukongsimi]

You must say you check with your pastor first...if you say you don know...the moslem will say " bro, I will explain the Quran to you, it is fully detailed" 

Correct !

[pinkpanther]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wa5r5JeckIg?s...iW1kh66hXh

[Lukongsimi]

Why Jesus said the kingdom of God belongs to little children
As they listen quietly
and not question and question like that pachik.
When I was a primary school kid my teacher taught us about Christ
When I saw the picture on the book it touches my heart with a strong love for
Him
I said the Lord prayer bef i sleep n I dreamt of Jesus standing on the cloud His voice was so strong and echos slow and powerful
I don’t understand what he was saying but I believe in Him
😊

[pinkpanther]

Why Jesus said the kingdom of God belongs to little children
As they listen quietly
and not question and question like that pachik.
When I was a primary school kid my teacher taught us about Christ
When I saw the picture on the book it touches my heart with a strong love for
Him
I said the Lord prayer bef i sleep n I dreamt of Jesus standing on the cloud His voice was so strong and echos slow and powerful
I don’t understand what he was saying but I believe in Him
😊

Wah, you’re an early believer in Jesus! When I was in a Catholic secondary school, I was still a free thinker.

I was not born into Christianity....I was given free will to seek out answers....are the moslems the same?

[Lukongsimi]

Wah, you’re an early believer in Jesus! When I was in a Catholic secondary school, I was still a free thinker.

I was not born into Christianity....I was given free will to seek out answers....are the moslems the same?

It’s was my granny who put me into a catholic school 
If I were in a non catholic school maybe till now I don’t know who is Christ lol
And strange later I received Bible study and exams thru mails which I never knew
I finished the whole course and took the exam

[Ali Imran]

I would never say to my child, "When you learn all the rules, I'll accept you as a child." On the contrary, fathers are delighted with infants, and they'll accept them from birth. A child who grows up in a home where he's not accepted will encounter problems while a child who's immediately accepted grows up desiring to do his father's will. Though he may fall and make mistakes, his father cannot reject him as his child. The father says, "You have made many mistakes but come; we'll start afresh."

Acceptance is the basis of our righteousness in Christ, and we receive acceptance not through works or rules, but from God in faith. We move from acceptance into righteousness, growing in our resemblance to Christ. Eph 4:15; Phil 3:7-14. God's righteousness is dynamic and progressive, not static or stationary. We grow in Christ as children in our Father's home. This is spiritual longlife growth.

Do you have difficulty telling a child to be obedient to God if he wants to be on God's gracious side?

[cheekopekman]

You must say you check with your pastor first...if you say you don know...the moslem will say " bro, I will explain the Quran to you, it is fully detailed" 

Correct !

In 2003 I had a chance to go to KL for mission trip that was 22 years ago lah!  Our mission team was honoured to have lunch with Marina Mahathir the daughter of their former PM lah! We were seated with her at the same long table as VIP lah!

[pinkpanther]

In 2003 I had a chance to go to KL for mission trip that was 22 years ago lah!  Our mission team was honoured to have lunch with Marina Mahathir the daughter of their former PM lah! We were seated with her at the same long table as VIP lah!

It was not a honour lah because Msia did not progress under her father...so did you convert Marina?

[cheekopekman]

It was not a honour lah because Msia did not progress under her father...so did you convert Marina?

Our main target wasn't her lah!  But she's impressed that we targeted those people with AIDS and hardcore drug addicts lah!

[pinkpanther]

Our main target wasn't her lah!  But she's impressed that we targeted those people with AIDS and hardcore drug addicts lah!

So any converts?

[cheekopekman]

So any converts?

Got lah!  That's why I said some Muslims became Christians liao lah!

[pinkpanther]

Got lah!  That's why I said some Muslims became Christians liao lah!

Baptise immediately or still have to go through bible studies?

[cheekopekman]

Baptise immediately or still have to go through bible studies?

Let them grow up in their churches there lah!  Their church leaders will take care of them lah!

[pinkpanther]

Let them grow up in their churches there lah!  Their church leaders will take care of them lah!

I have never came across a melayu church...
If you convert Marina...I think her father will come after you

[Lukongsimi]

In 2003 I had a chance to go to KL for mission trip that was 22 years ago lah!  Our mission team was honoured to have lunch with Marina Mahathir the daughter of their former PM lah! We were seated with her at the same long table as VIP lah!

So long ago your only mission trip ?

[Lukongsimi]

I have never came across a melayu church...
If you convert Marina...I think her father will come after you

Will be in world news Liao

[S I M T A N]

Do you have difficulty telling a child to be obedient to God if he wants to be on God's gracious side?

A kid at the tender young age of 7 wanting to obey God and stay in His good graces is a real Godsend. That's my boy! Good job, son. With such a God-loving child, I've an easy task to discipline, teach, nurture, and "train up a child in the way he should go" knowing that "when he is old, he will not depart from it" (Proverbs 22:6).

No matter what age our children are, releasing them into God's hands is a sign of our faith and trust in Him and is the first step toward making a difference in their lives. By the way, what's the age of accountability for children, meaning at what age are children responsible for their own sins?

Your recent postings have a hint of works-based salvation; I sense "radical works" are slowly creeping back. By all means feel free to work as you please. For us, the Bible is clear from cover to cover that humble faith in divine grace is the only alternative to a damning system of works-righteousness and the ony means to eternal salvation. The only basis for salvation is the work of Jesus in and through His life, death, and resurrection, and the only means to salvation is trust in Him. The good news of the gospel is that based on nothing we have done and everything Jesus has done - by His grace alone, through faith alone in Him - God will declare us right before Him. In this way, the gospel frees us from any and every attempt to earn God's acceptance through our work.

[cheekopekman]

Do you have difficulty telling a child to be obedient to God if he wants to be on God's gracious side?

I think it's easier for a child to obey his father whom he can see than God who is invisible lah!  You need faith to obey God lah!

[pinkpanther]

Kids will know God when they figure out themselves...I have seen videos of moslem kids trying to memorise and recite the Quran..the whole class is just noisy... It is just a memory test for them but if you ask those kids to explain the verses...they do not have a single clue...pitiful kids

Even the 2 moslems cannot explain when I put thẹm to the test

[Lukongsimi]

I even shared the gospel to kids n they accepted Christ 
Age around 4 years old plus not even 7 years old 
Hallelujah

[pinkpanther]

I even shared the gospel to kids n they accepted Christ 
Age  around 4 years old plus not even 7 years old 
Hallelujah

Kids don ask many questions ..they will accept Christ just knowing that He has super powers

[Lukongsimi]

Kids don ask many questions ..they will accept Christ just knowing that He has super powers

Correct😊

[cheekopekman]

I have never came across a melayu church...
If you convert Marina...I think her father will come after you

Who knows?   1 day she might leh!

[pinkpanther]

Who knows?   1 day she might leh!

Yes, you may be right because Marina is not a moslem name...

[pinkpanther]

Who knows?   1 day she might leh!

You got keep in touch with those you converted?  After sales service also must follow up...who knows...the whole family also converted...

This is why Islam is always lacking behind Christianity because they do not do Dawah...partly due to the lack of funds from the masjids

[Lukongsimi]

I think it's easier for a child to obey his father whom he can see than God who is invisible lah!  You need faith to obey God lah!

Fear of the Lord is beginning of wisdom 
It’s love that makes u obey God.