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(Yesterday, 01:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: He cannot correct us..but he can only check with us 
Even Allah told Muhammad to check with people of the books if he is uncertain..
He never send Muhammad to correct our scriptures..
If our moslem friend is going to correct us..then he is greater than Muhammad
In the Quran, we are told that the Israelites added their own words to the scriptures and tricked people into believing that it is the word of God.
Also in the Quran, we are to check everything the Christians say about faith. "Show us the proof" if what you say is true.
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(Yesterday, 01:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: So he better shut his mouth lol
The only way you can get me to shut my mouth is to unalive me, or show me I am wrong so I can learn.
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(Yesterday, 01:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: In the Quran, we are told that the Israelites added their own words to the scriptures and tricked people into believing that it is the word of God.
Also in the Quran, we are to check everything the Christians say about faith. "Show us the proof" if what you say is true.
Yes..I agree. That was what I posted 2 days back..
If there are uncertainties, ask the Christians to show it to you...but it does not say that Muhammad was given the rights to correct on how the Christians interpret matters
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We defend our faith not you
U want to walk on which path nobody can force u
Your destiny lies on your own hands
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(Yesterday, 01:28 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: https://youtu.be/efIPe1o65EE?si=Cscl7mFJ9tFxcfyq
This monk has awaken
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(Yesterday, 01:00 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: In Deut 18:15-19, Moses foretold that God would raise up a Jewish prophet with a special message from God. Anyone who didn't believe this would be judged by God. This passage has been interpreted as referring to Messiah. In it Moses points to a prophet (Jesus) who would be greater than himself, saying, "it is to him you shall listen" (Deut 18:15).
How is Jesus like Moses? There are major differences, and I will give you one that will surprise you. Moses was an Israelite, but Jesus isn't because he was born without an Israelite father.
Peace and blessings be upon the two mighty messengers of God.
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Question for Abdullah and Zed..
Is the quran a perfectly preserved word for word, letter for letter as proclaimed by muslims in the past?
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(Yesterday, 07:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: How is Jesus like Moses? There are major differences, and I will give you one that will surprise you. Moses was an Israelite, but Jesus isn't because he was born without an Israelite father.
Peace and blessings be upon the two mighty messengers of God.
Jesus said that Moses and all the Prophets were talking about Him lah!
Long before Jesus was born on this earth, all those Old Testament prophecies were pointing towards Him lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Question for Abdullah and Zed..
Is the quran a perfectly preserved word for word, letter for letter as proclaimed by muslims in the past?
The Quran is a recitation, and every word recited is from God.
And yes, perfectly preserved.
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(Yesterday, 07:10 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Jesus said that Moses and all the Prophets were talking about Him lah! Long before Jesus was born on this earth, all those Old Testament prophecies were pointing towards Him lah!
LKSM just quoted Isaiah 9, which Christians say is about Jesus.
I disagree, and I've given my arguments why I disagree.
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(Yesterday, 07:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The Quran is a recitation, and every word recited is from God.
And yes, perfectly preserved.
The Quran is one of Allah's revealed book. To say that a book is perfectly preserved, it means that the book should have no textual variants and no alterations to the meaning of the verses..do you agree?
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(Yesterday, 07:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: LKSM just quoted Isaiah 9, which Christians say is about Jesus.
I disagree, and I've given my arguments why I disagree.
Because you don't believe sure you disagree lah!
I can understand lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:18 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Because you don't believe sure you disagree lah! I can understand lah!
I don't just disagree without substantiating my disagreement.
I gave my arguments to Lukongsimi earlier.
You, on the other hand, just believe without checking.
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(Yesterday, 07:16 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The Quran is one of Allah's revealed book. To say that a book is perfectly preserved, it means that the book should have no textual variants and no alterations to the meaning of the verses..do you agree?
The understanding of some verses may change over time, as mankind's knowledge increases.
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(Yesterday, 07:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I don't just disagree without substantiating my disagreement.
I gave my arguments to Lukongsimi earlier.
You, on the other hand, just believe without checking.
I'm not good in argument lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I don't just disagree without substantiating my disagreement.
I gave my arguments to Lukongsimi earlier.
You, on the other hand, just believe without checking.
It appears that you may have a bias towards CKPM.... We held him in high regard. He has successfully converted many kufr to Christianity...
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(Yesterday, 07:26 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: I'm not good in argument lah!
You don't need to argue but you can think if you have the correct faith. You cannot just believe without checking. Even the Bible tells you to check before believing.
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(Yesterday, 07:31 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: It appears that you may have a bias towards CKPM.... We held him in high regard. He has successfully converted many kufr to Christianity...
I'm preparing for another mission trip soon lah!
Not free for arguments and debates lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You don't need to argue but you can think if you have the correct faith. You cannot just believe without checking. Even the Bible tells you to check before believing.
"Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." (John 20:29) I believe Jesus lah!
Jesus was rebuking Thomas because that disciple refused to believe that the Lord had risen from the dead lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: 
If any of them does not convert...pls enforce Jizya on them
Conversion is the work of the Holy Spirit lah!
My duty is to preach the gospel lah!
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(Yesterday, 07:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The understanding of some verses may change over time, as mankind's knowledge increases.
Do you take the words and opinion of a trustworthy Islamic scholar like Shabir Ally?
He has a different opinion on the preservation of the Quran
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(Yesterday, 07:40 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." (John 20:29) I believe Jesus lah! Jesus was rebuking Thomas because that disciple refused to believe that the Lord had risen from the dead lah!
Yes, the disciples and other followers of Jesus all thought Jesus was killed on the cross. So they were surprised when they saw him alive, according to the Gospels. But that story has so many holes. I won't get into that for now.
If I'm not mistaken, SimTan said a few days ago that Jesus predicted his death and resurrection. If it is true that the disciples were told by Jesus that Jesus would die and resurrect 3 days later, why would they be surprised?
There, this is what I mean by thinking. You need to think. Don't just anyhow believe.
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(Yesterday, 07:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Do you take the words and opinions of a trustworthy Islamic scholar like Shabir Ally?
He has a different opinion on the preservation of the Quran
I am not sure what he said coz I don't listen much to him.
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Old man don’t believe Isaiah 9 is talking about Jesus
Then who you think isaiah is prophesying ?
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