Scripture readings for Christmas

(20-05-2025, 09:59 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Their religion is to attack and bully
One day if he never attacks us means he already  Kong Kah keow liao

Rotfl good person Kong kah early...
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(20-05-2025, 10:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  we believe in one God, the one God that exists eternally as three persons...Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

1 died for 3 days so for 3 days, your God became 2 in 1.

True?
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(20-05-2025, 10:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Your friend already posted some information about Islam being a strict monotheism. You should refer to him.

No..that is what moslems said about their religion being monotheism...but from the outside looking in..we think it is not so simple.. Big Grin
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(20-05-2025, 09:58 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But the Father did not say that

Yes, the Father appointed Moses as God.

Exodus 7.
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(20-05-2025, 10:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  1 died for 3 days so for 3 days, your God became 2 in 1.

True?

Rotfl Nope..He didnt cease to exist
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(20-05-2025, 10:06 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, the Father appointed Moses as God.

Exodus 7.

Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh

You should know the key word to refute your statement...
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U twisted the words 

In the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the book of Exodus, God appoints Moses as a representative of God to Pharaoh, making Moses "like God" to Pharaoh. This means Moses is given the authority and responsibility to communicate God's commands and deliver God's message to Pharaoh. Additionally, God appoints Aaron as Moses' prophet, meaning Aaron is to speak on Moses' behalf and be Moses' mouthpiece. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-05-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl Nope..He didnt cease to exist

So no sacrifice?
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(20-05-2025, 10:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U twisted the words 

In the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the book of Exodus, God appoints Moses as a representative of God to Pharaoh, making Moses "like God" to Pharaoh. This means Moses is given the authority and responsibility to communicate God's commands and deliver God's message to Pharaoh. Additionally, God appoints Aaron as Moses' prophet, meaning Aaron is to speak on Moses' behalf and be Moses' mouthpiece. 

I didn't twist anything. I only quoted it exactly as the verse says. God appointed Moses as God.

And your friend says God appointed Jesus as God too, if he wants to be consistent.
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https://youtu.be/lE66NU398cY?si=zEZ_l77IwYLkxRUs

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-05-2025, 10:20 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I didn't twist anything. I only quoted it exactly as the verse says. God appointed Moses as God.

And your friend says God appointed Jesus as God too, if he wants to be consistent.

God appoints Moses as a representative of God lah..you have some distortions in the head? Big Grin

Where did it says God appointed Moses as God?
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(20-05-2025, 10:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U twisted the words 

In the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the book of Exodus, God appoints Moses as a representative of God to Pharaoh, making Moses "like God" to Pharaoh. This means Moses is given the authority and responsibility to communicate God's commands and deliver God's message to Pharaoh. Additionally, God appoints Aaron as Moses' prophet, meaning Aaron is to speak on Moses' behalf and be Moses' mouthpiece. 

Yes lah ... stop the moslem from misinterpreting  Big Grin
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(20-05-2025, 11:03 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes lah ... stop the moslem from misinterpreting  Big Grin

In fact he himself is a great liar. 
Bedek!😂
He flip flop to suit his taste

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-05-2025, 09:43 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  There are many verses in the Bible that shows Jesus is God n was posted here numerous times 
The Moslem cannot believe it because if he believe them his Koran will be corrupted 
So in order to win the race he has to be blind n deaf simple as that!
We also worship one God Father Son and Holy Spirit are one.
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Yes..exactly..There are many verses that have pointed to Jesus being God..
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Benjamin Netanyahu, LET MY PEOPLE GO
Any moslem here giving him the vote of confidence?

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/V04eX6CoolY
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In the transfiguration story in the Bible (Luke 9:30-36), Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus about his departure (Greek: "exodos") which he was about to accomplish in Jerusalem. 

This departure, also known as his crucifixion and resurrection, is what both Moses and Elijah were pointing to throughout their lives and ministries. Essentially, they were discussing the fulfillment of God's plan for Jesus, the Messiah, and the new covenant he would bring about.
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(20-05-2025, 10:10 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh

You should know the key word to refute your statement...

Who puts that "like" in that verse? Is it in the original Hebrew?
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(20-05-2025, 09:30 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Romans 9:5 states, "To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen."

According to Paul, God has never been seen, knowing that Jesus was seen. He said God is immortal while believing Jesus died. 

So, do you think Paul believed Jesus is God?
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(20-05-2025, 06:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who puts that "like" in that verse? Is it in the original Hebrew?

Now this is definitely beyond my pay grade
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(20-05-2025, 05:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In the transfiguration story in the Bible (Luke 9:30-36), Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus about his departure (Greek: "exodos") which he was about to accomplish in Jerusalem. 

This departure, also known as his crucifixion and resurrection, is what both Moses and Elijah were pointing to throughout their lives and ministries. Essentially, they were discussing the fulfillment of God's plan for Jesus, the Messiah, and the new covenant he would bring about.

I'm sure you will say God's plan for Jesus was for him to die for your sins but in Luke, we read that God told Mary, through the angel Gabriel, that her son would be king.

So, how come the story changed?
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(20-05-2025, 06:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to Paul, God has never been seen, knowing that Jesus was seen. He said God is immortal while believing Jesus died. 

So, do you think Paul believed Jesus is God?

Jesus was seen as a man... Paul's encounter with Jesus was a vision...Jesus died as a man but because He is immortal, He is resurrected and live again..because He is immortal, His body is still in heaven..
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(20-05-2025, 06:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Now this is definitely beyond my pay grade

And mine too. 

But the point is, the Bible you read in English has been translated to suit the Christian faith.
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(20-05-2025, 07:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  And mine too. 

But the point is, the Bible you read in English has been translated to suit the Christian faith.

Not true...it doesnt suit 66% of the world population .
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(20-05-2025, 07:04 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus was seen as a man... Paul's encounter with Jesus was a vision...Jesus died as a man but because He is immortal, He is resurrected and live again..because He is immortal, His body is still in heaven..

Did Paul knew Jesus was walking around with people, talking to people? I'm sure he knew that. If he believes Jesus is God, would he then say God has never been seen?

And I'm sure you know that Paul believed Jesus died. Same argument I will put forth. If he believes Jesus is God, would he then say God cannot die?
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(20-05-2025, 07:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Not true...it doesnt suit 66% of the world population .

I said to suit the Christian faith.

The English Bible you read has words added to suit the Christian faith, in this case, the "like" in Exodus 7.
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(20-05-2025, 07:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm sure you will say God's plan for Jesus was for him to die for your sins but in Luke, we read that God told Mary, through the angel Gabriel, that her son would be king.

So, how come the story changed?

King of the Jews you mean? Son of the most high..
What do you mean the story changed...He is not going to be a king in a literal sense
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(20-05-2025, 07:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I said to suit the Christian faith.

The English Bible you read has words added to suit the Christian faith, in this case, the "like" in Exodus 7.

I don have that christian faith from the beginning..you know me..my faith is research based..

In other versions the word " like" is replaced with "as" so you are not wrong in your interpretation Initially
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(20-05-2025, 07:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  King of the Jews you mean? Son of the most high..
What do you mean the story changed...He is not going to be a king in a literal sense

God says to Mary that her son will sit at David's throne. How come Jesus never got to sit at David's throne?
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(20-05-2025, 07:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don have that christian faith from the beginning..you know me..my faith is research based..

In other versions the word " like" is replaced with "as" so you are not wrong in your interpretation Initially

Whether "like" or "as", it was added.

The English translator added it because, being a Christian, he would want the verse to suit his faith.
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(20-05-2025, 07:20 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  God says to Mary that her son will sit at David's throne. How come Jesus never got to sit at David's throne?

Not literally sitting on the throne lah...as the king of jews ..that's how I interpret lah
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