Scripture readings for Christmas

(26-05-2025, 08:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Then why they fight to touch and kiss the black stone?

Ya why he can’t answer?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 06:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So let's go back to my original question.

Why did Peter said Jesus was a man at the Pentecost?

That time Jesus was born as a man.
simple as that!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You're mistaken. Muslims worship only the 1 true God.

Bluff !
U worship muh as well.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:26 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Which verse the Israelites said they don’t believe Jesus is God?
Don’t anyhow preach what u have no knowledge of what was happening in those days

First, the Israelites there were believers in the 1 true God. 
On top of that, they were already told that God is not a man.
And then, Peter told them Jesus was a man.

Do you think they would believe Jesus is God?
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(26-05-2025, 08:30 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Bluff !
U worship muh as well.

If Muslims worship a man, even if it is Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم, they will surely go to hell.

Knowing that, do you think we would worship him?
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(26-05-2025, 08:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  First, the Israelites there were believers in the 1 true God. 
On top of that, they were already told that God is not a man.
And then, Peter told them Jesus was a man.

Do you think they would believe Jesus is God?

Not all Israelites 
U use one bamboo to poke the whole group.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If Muslims worship a man, even if it is Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم, they will surely go to hell.

Knowing that, do you think we would worship him?
Why need to add his name in prayers?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Then why they fight to touch and kiss the black stone?

If I kiss my mother, does it mean she is God?

If I kiss the football before taking the penalty kick, does it mean the ball is God or I worship the ball?
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(26-05-2025, 08:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why need to add his name in prayers?

We pray to God to bless our Prophet just like how God has blessed Prophet Abraham.

What's wrong with that?
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(26-05-2025, 08:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  First, the Israelites there were believers in the 1 true God. 
On top of that, they were already told that God is not a man.
And then, Peter told them Jesus was a man.

Do you think they would believe Jesus is God?

I am also curious if they believe Jesus is God...let us go to AI Big Grin

In Acts chapter 2, the 3,000 Israelites who believed the apostles' message and were baptized were not explicitly stated to believe Jesus was God. However, they did believe that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. They were also likely to have recognized Jesus's divine authority and power based on the miracles and teachings they witnessed, which led them to declare him as "Lord and Christ". 
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(26-05-2025, 08:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Not all Israelites 
U use one bamboo to poke the whole group.

According to Acts 2, the Israelites there were God-fearing people.
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I am also curious if they believe Jesus is God...let us go to AI Big Grin

In Acts chapter 2, the 3,000 Israelites who believed the apostles' message and were baptized were not explicitly stated to believe Jesus was God. However, they did believe that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. They were also likely to have recognized Jesus's divine authority and power based on the miracles and teachings they witnessed, which led them to declare him as "Lord and Christ". 

Abraham was called lord. Does it mean he is God?
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(26-05-2025, 08:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We pray to God to bless our Prophet just like how God has blessed Prophet Abraham.

What's wrong with that?

When you pray to God...it is already a blessing for your prophet..do you need to tell God what to do?
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(26-05-2025, 08:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Abraham was called lord. Does it mean he is God?

That is beside the point...you cannot say that the Israelites have no clue that Jesus is God...
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(26-05-2025, 08:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When you pray to God...it is already a blessing for your prophet..do you need to tell God what to do?

So now you want to make rules for Muslims on how to pray to God?
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(26-05-2025, 08:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If I kiss my mother, does it mean she is God?

If I kiss the football before taking the penalty kick, does it mean the ball is God or I worship the ball?

If everyone is fighting to touch and kiss your mother..that might suggest that she is God Big Grin
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(26-05-2025, 08:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is beside the point...you cannot say that the Israelites have no clue that Jesus is God...

The Israelites were already told that God is not a man. They were already told that the entire universe cannot contain God. And they were already expecting the Messiah, who is going to be a man. 

What makes you think that they would even consider the Messiah to be God?
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Rotfl
(26-05-2025, 08:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If everyone is fighting to touch and kiss your mother..that might suggest that she is God Big Grin

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So now you want to make rules for Muslims on how to pray to God?

But you are addressing God and Muhammad in your Shahada isnt it
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(26-05-2025, 08:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We pray to God to bless our Prophet just like how God has blessed Prophet Abraham.

What's wrong with that?

no such thing as in bible blessed the dead or pray for the dead 
God blessed Abraham when he was alive not when he is dead.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Israelites were already told that God is not a man. They were already told that the entire universe cannot contain God. And they were already expecting the Messiah, who is going to be a man. 

What makes you think that they would even consider the Messiah to be God?

Pls lah if they can believe Jesus is the messiah why can't they believe He is God...

In their scriptures, Jesus does not fit the bill of a messiah...that is why till this age they are still waiting
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(26-05-2025, 08:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But you are addressing God and Muhammad in your Shahada isnt it

We testify that there is only 1 true God, and Muhammad is the messenger God sent.
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(26-05-2025, 08:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If Muslims worship a man, even if it is Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم, they will surely go to hell.

Knowing that, do you think we would worship him?

Everyday mentioned muh in your prayers  is considered worship

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:58 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Everyday mentioned muh in your prayers  is considered worship

Prayers is only for God exclusively...no one else deserves to be mention
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(26-05-2025, 08:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If I kiss the football before taking the penalty kick, does it mean the ball is God or I worship the ball?
It’s not worship it’s idolatry u love the ball more than God.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 08:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We testify that there is only 1 true God, and Muhammad is the messenger God sent.

We didn’t add Paul,Matthew,James,Luke,John,Thomas,..
We  pray our Father Abba

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 09:05 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  It’s not worship it’s idolatry u love the ball more than God.

Did Imam Zed touch and kiss the black stone?
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(26-05-2025, 09:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We didn’t add Paul,Matthew,James,Luke,John,Thomas,..
We  pray our Father Abba

Rotfl we didnt add moses, Jacob or Abrahim
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(26-05-2025, 09:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did Imam Zed touch and kiss the black stone?

Don’t know who is this fellow..lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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