[pinkpanther]

The Injeel referred to in the Quran is what the messenger of Allah, Isa pbuh, spoke, not what the author of Mark, Matthew, Luke, or John wrote.

I am asking you in all fairness to show me the Injil..how do you know that the Injil is not a compilation of the 4 gospel writers .. have you seen the Ịnjil? Muhammad has seen it, Allah says it is with us

pls show me proof from the Quran

It is widely believed that accounts of Jesus' life and teachings, which eventually became the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, were initially transmitted orally. This oral tradition served as the source material for the written gospels.

[pinkpanther]

I like this topic, I can go on for days

[Ali Imran]

I like this topic, I can go on for days

Workload is heavy for now.

[Lukongsimi]

When I say I'm not sure, I mean WE are not sure.

So yes, you also don't know what Jesus said. Do you know Jesus spoke in Aramaic? You read the Gospel in English.

U not sure doesn’t means we r not sure

[pinkpanther]

Pachik only talks and whines but never go help his people in Gaza

He galang gabok..he gets more palestinians killed I believe

[pinkpanther]

Will our government allow us to go and fight for the Palestinians?

Even if the gov allows....you also don volunteer to fight lah...you might slow down the attacks lah..

[Lukongsimi]

“This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.”
‭‭John‬ ‭21‬:‭24‬-‭25‬ ‭NKJV

[Lukongsimi]

He galang gabok..he gets more palestinians killed I believe

[Ali Imran]

I am asking you in all fairness to show me the Injil..how do you know that the Injil is not a compilation of the 4 gospel writers .. have you seen the Ịnjil? Muhammad has seen it, Allah says it is with us

pls show me proof from the Quran

It is widely believed that accounts of Jesus' life and teachings, which eventually became the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, were initially transmitted orally. This oral tradition served as the source material for the written gospels.

No, I cannot show you the Injeel that came out of the mouth of Jesus. I believe it was never recorded. There is no evidence of it ever being recorded.

When you read Mark or any of the 4 Gospels, you see words that came from the authors. Do you think those words are the Injeel in our paradigm? If you think that, you're mistaken. 

Do you know that many other similar Gospels were also written, but they weren't selected by the unknown Bishops to be included in the Bible? There are manuscripts of the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Mary, and others.

[Ali Imran]

“This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.”
‭‭John‬ ‭21‬:‭24‬-‭25‬ ‭NKJV

So that means there are many other teachings of Jesus that we don't know because it was not recorded.

[Ali Imran]

Even if the gov allows....you also don volunteer to fight lah...you might slow down the attacks lah..

I will of course volunteer, especially at my age, because my children are all raised and I don't have any responsibilities here anymore.

There are many others like me. If the government allows it, we can easily raise a battalion of soldiers who are already trained during NS.

[Ali Imran]

U not sure doesn’t means we r not sure

Yes, you are not sure BECAUSE we don't have the original words of Jesus.

[pinkpanther]

No, I cannot show you the Injeel that came out of the mouth of Jesus. I believe it was never recorded. There is no evidence of it ever being recorded.

Let me remind you that Muhammad affirmed the Injil..now you say that the injil was never recorded...so either Muhammad was lying or you are lying?


The Islamic dilemma continues...

[pinkpanther]

I will of course volunteer, especially at my age, because my children are all raised and I don't have any responsibilities here anymore.

There are many others like me. If the government allows it, we can easily raise a battalion of soldiers who are already trained during NS.

Does your wife approve of your foolish idea? If you die in action..the responsibility still lies on your family to carry and fly your body back home...

Are you entice by the rewards of Paradise and 72 virgins if you fight in the war?

[Ali Imran]

Does your wife approve of your foolish idea? If you die in action..the responsibility still lies on your family to carry and fly your body back home...

Are you entice by the rewards of Paradise and 72 virgins if you fight in the war?

Fighting the army of anti-Christ is honorable.

[Ali Imran]

Let me remind you that Muhammad affirmed the Injil..now you say that the injil was never recorded...so either Muhammad was lying or you are lying?


The Islamic dilemma continues...

When there is no Injeel, how can our prophet affirm it? Do you think our prophet ever said, "This is the Injeel of Isa"?

[Lukongsimi]

This morning something strange happens 
I did not log in utube or Titok
Suddenly the voice like Jesus saying from my iPhone 
Your sins are forgiven and u are saved by grace 
I log in to TikTok no trace of history

[pinkpanther]

When there is no Injeel, how can our prophet affirm it? Do you think our prophet ever said, "This is the Injeel of Isa"?

Then what is your prophet affirming? You said the Injil was not recorded but Allah says the Injil is with the Christians...so is Allah right or you are right?

you see how you are disobeying Allah and Muhammad...you came up with Bidah!

The Islamic dilemma continues

[pinkpanther]

This morning something strange happens 
I did not log in utube or Titok
Suddenly the voice like Jesus saying from my iPhone 
Your sins are forgiven and u are saved by grace 
U log in to TikTok no trace of history

I believe you
There are many ways through which our lord may communicate with us...dreams, visions, revelations, devices...

[Lukongsimi]

I believe you
There are many ways through which our lord may communicate with us...dreams, visions, revelations, devices...

Yes you are right bro.
😊

[pinkpanther]

Yes you are right bro.
😊

Because I also have experience it mah

[Lukongsimi]

Because I also have experience it mah

Oh great please share it here to let pachik know Jesus is alive 
Lol

[Ali Imran]

Then what is your prophet affirming? You said the Injil was not recorded but Allah says the Injil is with the Christians...so is Allah right or you are right?

you see how you are disobeying Allah and Muhammad...you came up with Bidah!

The Islamic dilemma continues

What is in Mark or any of the Gospels, there are echoes of the words of Jesus. Like for example, when Jesus gave the twin shahadah, it was recorded in John. When Jesus affirms the most important commandment, ie. oneness of God, is it in the Mark. So yes, you can find remnants of the Injeel in the book of Mark or any of the Gospels.

As for the entire book of Mark, that is not the Injeel.

[pinkpanther]

Fighting the army of anti-Christ is honorable.

I salute you! After you finish them ..fight the moslem army..they are also anti-Christ 

[pinkpanther]

What is in Mark or any of the Gospels, there are echoes of the words of Jesus. Like for example, when Jesus gave the twin shahadah, it was recorded in John. When Jesus affirms the most important commandment, ie. oneness of God, is it in the Mark. So yes, you can find the Injeel in the book of Mark or any of the Gospels.

As for the entire book of Mark, that is not the Injeel.

I cannot trust You to say that mark is not included in the injil..because you are not an expert and further you have not seen the injil

[Ali Imran]

Don jump the gun   why do you stop me from my favourite topic?

Carry on. I'm here. Discuss whatever you like.

[Ali Imran]

I salute you! After you finish them ..fight the moslem army..they are also anti-Christ 

The Muslim army has the same faith as Christ. We all affirm that there is only 1 God. And we are fighting the same people who are the enemies of Christ, whom Jesus himself will kill when he returns.

[pinkpanther]

Oh great please share it here to let pachik know Jesus is alive 
Lol

Pachik does not believe it....you say it is the Holy Spirit..he say it is not..

[Ali Imran]

Oh great please share it here to let pachik know Jesus is alive 
Lol

I believe, 100%, Jesus is alive.

And he will return and kill his enemies. Who are his enemies? They who rejected Jesus as Christ.

[Ali Imran]

I cannot trust You to say that mark is not included in the injil..because you are not an expert and further you have not seen the injil

We can see remnants of the Injeel in the book of Mark, or the other 3.

How do we know? Because, in the Quran, Allah tells us a few things which Jesus said, ie. the Injeel.