Scripture readings for Christmas

(30-05-2025, 01:43 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You're the liar who made statements about Islam that are false, since you don't want to admit you're mistaken.

Plus, you're heartless for justifying the killing of children and infants.
You are a hypocrite liar !
u lied n accuse us of lying!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 01:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/E1tYb9Bh4uY

Pay or perish

Clapping
This is a good rebuke... let's see how he defend lies Big Grin
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(30-05-2025, 01:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We only have the OT and NT...there is nothing like the Injil that Islam claim was revealed to Jesus in a Book..I emphasize Book because it was written down just like the Quran ...

Nowhere in the Quran will you find a verse where it says the Torah and Gospel got corrupted and this belief started rising among muslims when they started reading the Torah and Gospel and how it contradicted the Quran. Big Grin

And yes, the Islamic dilemma continues Big Grin on one side, Allah and Muhammad, and on the other, our friend who has distorted and twisted the words of the Quran....

Why are you not following the teachings of the Quran  Big Grin

Did I show you verse 2:79? Does that say they have manufactured verses of their own and then claimed it to be from God?

Yes or no?
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(30-05-2025, 01:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  You are a hypocrite liar !
u lied n accuse us of lying!

Show me where I lied?
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(30-05-2025, 01:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/E1tYb9Bh4uY

Pay or perish

Whoever made that video, is he a scholar or a liar?
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(30-05-2025, 01:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did I show you verse 2:79? Does that say they have manufactured verses of their own and then claimed it to be from God?

Yes or no?

So woe1 to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”—seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.

This is for those who distort the scriptures and sell for a gain ..where did it says that the original scriptures were corrupted ..Hello the Quran is very clear...but your understanding of English seems incompetent
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(30-05-2025, 01:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Clapping
This is a good rebuke... let's see how he defend lies Big Grin
Yes must find more proofs for that liar

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 01:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yes must find more proofs for that liar

He can cha cha and flip roti prata
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(30-05-2025, 01:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So woe1 to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”—seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.

This is for those who distort the scriptures and sell for a gain ..where did it says that the original scriptures were corrupted ..Hello the Quran is very clear...but your understanding of English seems incompetent


Yes, that verse is clearly saying they distorted the scriptures with their own hands, adding and changing the text. What else do you think that verse is referring to?
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(30-05-2025, 01:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yes must find more proofs for that liar

So at least you've realised that you brought another liar in that video.
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When the Christians could not answer the questions I posed to them, like the one this morning, which the two Christians here can't answer, they will instead start finding faults with our theology, and they failed miserably. They need to lie and lie again about Islam to make themselves feel better.
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(30-05-2025, 02:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, that verse is clearly saying they distorted the scriptures with their own hands, adding and changing the text. What else do you think that verse is referring to?

Hello i can also distort and sell it for a gain...but does it mean the original scriptures were corrupted..
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(30-05-2025, 02:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Hello i can also distort and sell it for a gain...but does it mean the original scriptures were corrupted..

When they forged verses and put them into the original books, doesn't that mean the original is now distorted? How come such a simple logic doesn't occur to you?
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(30-05-2025, 02:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When they forged verses and put them into the original books, doesn't that mean the original is now distorted? How come such a simple logic doesn't occur to you?

No...they might copied from the original books and added verses....they also have manuscripts to check if corruption exists...
Don't you have a mind to think

Where in the Quran does it says that the original scriptures were corrupted
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(30-05-2025, 02:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No...they might copied from the original books and added verses....they also have manuscripts to check if corruption exists...
Don't you have a mind to think

Where in the Quran does it says that the original scriptures were corrupted

So you think God sent down a book, binded and all. Is that what you're thinking?
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(30-05-2025, 02:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So at least you've realised that you brought another liar in that video.

which part of the video is a lie?
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(30-05-2025, 02:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you think God sent down a book, binded and all. Is that right?

God sent down the Quran...it became a book after the death of Muhammad
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(30-05-2025, 02:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  which part of the video is a lie?

The title.
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(30-05-2025, 02:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God sent down the Quran...it became a book after the death of Muhammad

We're talking about the Torah, which was written like a thousand years after Prophet Moses.

So, is there an original book like you said earlier?
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(30-05-2025, 02:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you think God sent down a book, binded and all. Is that what you're thinking?

In Islamic belief, the Injil was revealed to Jesus (Isa) by God (Allah). It is described as a holy book that contains divine guidance and light. The Quran mentions the Injil as one of the four Islamic holy books, along with the Zabur, Tawrat, and the Quran itself.

The injil is a book just like the other 3 books ..so it has to be recorded and written down .

I am running towards the Islamic faith but you my friend is running away from it Big Grin

I rest my case...
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(30-05-2025, 02:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We're talking about the Torah, which was written like a thousand years after Prophet Moses.

So, is there an original book like you said earlier?

The Torah has to be well preserved just like Allah says that no one can change His words...

There might be copies of fakes but the well preserved scriptures are always there
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(30-05-2025, 02:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In Islamic belief, the Injil was revealed to Jesus (Isa) by God (Allah). It is described as a holy book that contains divine guidance and light. The Quran mentions the Injil as one of the four Islamic holy books, along with the Zabur, Tawrat, and the Quran itself.

The injil is a book just like the other 3 books ..so it has to be recorded and written down .

I am running towards the Islamic faith but you my friend is running away from it Big Grin

I rest my case...

The Quran is called a book in the Quran, before it was made into a book.

You need to know what is a kitab (book).

Let me ask you again. Do you think there is such a thing as the original book called the Torah? You spoke of it just now.
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(30-05-2025, 02:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Torah has to be well preserved just like Allah says that no one can change His words...

There might be copies of fakes but the well preserved scriptures are always there

There you go again, speaking like you know when you are actually clueless.

I'm taking a nap now. I'll deal with you later.
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(30-05-2025, 02:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There you go again, speaking like you know when you are actually clueless.

I'm taking a nap now. I'll deal with you later.

I am clueless but you don seems to know much either Big Grin

Maybe Allah will give you the answer in your sleep Big Grin
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(30-05-2025, 02:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran is called a book in the Quran, before it was made into a book.

You need to know what is a kitab (book).

Let me ask you again. Do you think there is such a thing as the original book called the Torah? You spoke of it just now.

How many times must I say? Yes the injil is a book, a kitab! But you said it was never recorded and the Christians never have it...

The Injil is considered a kitab (book) in Islamic tradition. It is believed to be the holy scripture revealed to Prophet Jesus (Isa in Arabic).
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 02:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I am clueless but you don seems to know much either Big Grin

Maybe Allah will give you the answer in your sleep Big Grin

His Brain tired liao need to rest after fighting countless clueless debates

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 03:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  His Brain tired liao need to rest after fighting countless clueless debates

The only way God can keep his mouth shut is to send him to sleep Big Grin
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(30-05-2025, 03:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The only way God can keep his mouth shut is to send him to sleep Big Grin

😂

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 02:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How many times must I say? Yes the injil is a book, a kitab! But you said it was never recorded and the Christians never have it...

The Injil is considered a kitab (book) in Islamic tradition. It is believed to be the holy scripture revealed to Prophet Jesus (Isa in Arabic).

So you think Jesus came with a book in his hand and he went around preaching from this book?
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