[Ali Imran]

Hello..where did the Quran mention the Bible? If you say the Injil was never written then how can they distort the books?

The Islamic dilemma goes on

That is a silly argument.

Did the unknown authors write the many, like more than 30, Gospels? Yes. Are they the Injeel? No. Does it have remnants of the words of Jesus? Evidently yes. 

Did the scribes with the lying pen write the books that are now known as the OT. Yes. Does it have some truth. Evidently yes.

The dilemma is only in your head.

[Ali Imran]

Notice how quickly I can defeat the silly arguments Pink brought to the table?

But I can only do this quick-fire posting when I'm sitting down at home infront of my computer.

[Lukongsimi]

Hello..where did the Quran mention the Bible? If you say the Injil was never written then how can they distort the books?

The Islamic dilemma goes on

He can’t give u a proper answer all he did is to claim he is the winner 
kiasu one lah.

[Ali Imran]

He can’t give u a proper answer all he did is to claim he is the winner 
kiasu one lah.

I've been refuting his points on this issue for a few days already.

He still wants to repeat the same thing even after I've refuted them. He didn't bring any new arguments.

[pinkpanther]

Notice how quickly I can defeat the silly arguments Pink brought to the table?

But I can only do this quick-fire posting when I'm sitting down at home infront of my computer.

 this fellow is desperate to get one over me after I destroyed him last night

[Ali Imran]

 this fellow is desperate to get one over me after I destroyed him last night

Show people here how you destroyed me.

[pinkpanther]

I've been refuting his points on this issue for a few days already.

He still wants to repeat the same thing even after I've refuted them. He didn't bring any new arguments.

You brought in more questions than your silly answers...you have refuted none and the islamic dilemma goes on....

Where can i find then name " Mohamed" written in the Torah and Injil?

[pinkpanther]

Show people here how you destroyed me.

I am showing the people daily

[Ali Imran]

You brought in more questions than your silly answers...you have refuted none and the islamic dilemma goes on....

Where can i find then name " Mohamed" written in the Torah and Injil?

The simplest answer to that is they removed it. We already know they do that all the time.

But at the time of the prophet, it was still there.

Do you know that they found ancient manuscripts, the dead sea scroll, and they (Jewish scholars) are still hiding some books from the public? Why do you think that is?

[pinkpanther]

He can’t give u a proper answer all he did is to claim he is the winner 
kiasu one lah.

Even if their Quran says this, they will give you a different answer

[Ali Imran]

I am showing the people daily

That's the problem when I debate with pigeons.

Even after I've proven to you that your knowledge is lacking, you still want to think you know. You don't even know a simple thing like when Paul was paraphrasing Isaiah. 

You really have no shame.

[pinkpanther]

The simplest answer to that is they removed it. We already know they do that all the time.

But at the time of the prophet, it was still there.

 According to who? Your scholars? Proof? Manuscripts ?If the prophet name was ever mention in the books...why no one claim to have heard or read?

[Lukongsimi]

Even if their Quran says this, they will give you a different answer

A loser  won’t admit he is the loser lah 

[pinkpanther]

That's the problem when I debate with pigeons.

Even after I've proven to you that your knowledge is lacking, you still want to think you know. You don't even know a simple thing like when Paul was paraphrasing Isaiah. 

You really have no shame.

Then Allah is paraphrasing Paul then  ...
Or Allah is paraphrasing isaiah from his book that he never taught the moslems to believe

Both ways you also got yourself cornered..

[pinkpanther]

A loser  won’t admit he is the loser lah 

Their God and their prophet say one thing...they said another.. ..He is taking readers for a ride...islam makes all the claims but they cannot prove

Do they have testimonies attesting to the truth of the islamic God? They don have...

What they have is faith...a blind faith

[Ali Imran]

Then Allah is paraphrasing Paul then  ...
Or Allah is paraphrasing isaiah from his book that he never taught the moslems to believe

Both ways you also got yourself cornered..

How come you never learn?

Where did Isaiah get the information from? From God.

Where did our prophet get that information from? From God.

[Ali Imran]

 According to who? Your scholars? Proof? Manuscripts ?If the prophet name was ever mention in the books...why no one claim to have heard or read?

Is it plausible that the Jews removed it from their books once they learn that "Muhammad" was an Arab? Yes, very much plausible.

So, they found the dead sea scrolls, 70-80 years ago. Till now, the Jewish scholars are still hiding some of the books from public. Why do you think that is?

[pinkpanther]

How come you never learn?

Where did Isaiah get the information from? From God.

Where did our prophet get that information from? From God.

Is isaiah from your god? Show me the verse.
He prays to Yahweh and refer to Him as Father..is Allah called Yahweh? Can you refer to Him as a Father?

[pinkpanther]

Is it plausible that the Jews removed it from their books once they learn that "Muhammad" was an Arab? Yes, very much plausible.

So, they found the dead sea scrolls, 70-80 years ago. Till now, the Jewish scholars are still hiding some of the books from public. Why do you think that is?

I can only conclude that Allah is not all powerful
He can't protect the Injil ..He can't even validate Muhammad 's name ...

[Lukongsimi]

Is isaiah from your god? Show me the verse.
He prays to Yahweh and refer to Him as Father..is Allah called Yahweh? Can you refer to Him as a Father?

He said he is gg on a journey ?
Journey to the west like Ser mo Kong?
One has returned after 2 months 
Tot got good news but the same rebutting words nothing new.

[Lukongsimi]

Their God and their prophet say one thing...they said another.. ..He is taking readers for a ride...islam makes all the claims but they cannot prove

Do they have testimonies attesting to the truth of the islamic God? They don have...

What they have is faith...a blind faith

Ya loh no testimonies only spew falsehood n confuse readers 
His only testimony was about took care of his late mother.
why never bring  her for holidays n eat good food?
We wish to see more of Jesus related testimonies so to gain more faith in what we believe.

[Ali Imran]

Is isaiah from your god? Show me the verse.
He prays to Yahweh and refer to Him as Father..is Allah called Yahweh? Can you refer to Him as a Father?

LOL

Isaiah was a prophet of God.

The point is: you didn't know Paul was paraphrasing Isaiah. Should I laugh at your ignorance? Was I correct to call you an ignoramus?

Now, you believe those youtubers who brought up the Islamic dilemma. Do I need to remind you how the Christians lied about our Quran or at best, give you just half truth? Do you remember in the early days of our discourse, you brought up an article from the president of a Christian seminary to show that the Quran teaches us to kill non-believers? Do you remember how that president only presented part of the verse and hid the other part that gives the context of that command to fight?

Let me ask you a direct question. And let us call upon the almighty God to witness your answer and if you lie, let the almighty God send down a punishment in this life. Do you really believe there is an afterlife? Do you believe that there is hell where people will be tormented with fire, as the least of the punishments?

You can turn that on me anytime, invoking the almighty God to send down a punishment in this life if I lie in my answer. I will have no qualms in taking up the challenge. 

So tell us. Do you really believe, or are you, like many Christians I've met, on pascal's wager?

[Ali Imran]

Ya loh no testimonies only spew falsehood n confuse readers 
His only testimony was about took care of his late mother.
why never bring  her for holidays n eat good food?
We wish to see more of Jesus related testimonies so to gain more faith in what we believe.

What makes you think I didn't do that? Why are you so presumptuous?

The testimony I gave is tangible, can be repeated, and can be observed by others. Can your dreams be repeated by others? Can it be observed by others?

[Ali Imran]

I can only conclude that Allah is not all powerful
He can't protect the Injil ..He can't even validate Muhammad 's name ...

Allah says in the Quran that it is a revelation from Allah and Allah will ensure its preservation. Quran 15:9

Till today, the Quran is still in pristine condition, word for word, in the few ahrufs and qiraats.

Your Gospels are not from Allah. Btw, do you know why the many, like 30 or 40 other Gospels, never made it into the NT? Do you know who the people were who decided to take that 4 and discard the others? What were their criteria for choosing?

[Ali Imran]

I can only conclude that Allah is not all powerful
He can't protect the Injil ..He can't even validate Muhammad 's name ...

So, bear in mind that the Jewish scholars are still hiding some books from the Dead Sea Scrolls. They have released the others to the public some time ago. 

Why did they want to hide that few books?

[pinkpanther]

He said he is gg on a journey ?
Journey to the west like Ser mo Kong?
One has returned after 2 months 
Tot got good news but the same rebutting words nothing new.

  journey to the west

[pinkpanther]

Allah says in the Quran that it is a revelation from Allah and Allah will ensure its preservation. Quran 15:9

Till today, the Quran is still in pristine condition, word for word, in the few ahrufs and qiraats.

Your Gospels are not from Allah. Btw, do you know why the many, like 30 or 40 other Gospels, never made it into the NT? Do you know who the people were who decided to take that 4 and discard the others? What were their criteria for choosing?

I quote what Allah said, you disagree ..so why you quote what Allah said...

You god and Muhammad affirmed that what the christians were reading was the Injil....let me ask you once again...if it isnt the NT...what were the Christians reading back then....this simple question yet no replies...

The Islamic dilemma continues for 1400+ years and counting 

[pinkpanther]

So, bear in mind that the Jewish scholars are still hiding some books from the Dead Sea Scrolls. They have released the others to the public some time ago. 

Why did they want to hide that few books?

Hide what? Hide the name of Muhammad? If his name is not found after 1400 yrs..it is likely not there in both books lah..

Why would Allah not bail Muhammad out by revealing the truth? Why allow this doubts to exist ? Why not protect his beloved Muhammad from all those mockery...

You go think about it lah ...

[pinkpanther]

I only have one question for the moslems .
The question is revealed in the first 10 secs of the video

[pinkpanther]

LOL

Isaiah was a prophet of God.

Do you see how he aligns himself with the verse from the book of Isaiah also known as the Jewish Tanakh that affirms Allah? Please note that the Jewish Tanakh is not included among the four Islamic books that they are instructed to believe in.

When God is said to have destroyed the Amalekites in the Old Testament—also part of the Torah—remember, this is the scriptures they are told to accept from Allah.. Yet he claims that the scriptures were corrupted and that this is the work of the Bible's God. ..He attributed all the injustice not to his Allah but the Biblical God ..Notice his double standards and hypocrisy.

And let us call upon the almighty God to witness your answer and if you lie, let the almighty God send down a punishment in this life. Do you really believe there is an afterlife? Do you believe that there is hell where people will be tormented with fire, as the least of the punishments?

You can turn that on me anytime, invoking the almighty God to send down a punishment in this life if I lie in my answer. I will have no qualms in taking up the challenge.

So tell us. Do you really believe, or are you, like many moslems I've met, a kafir?