[Ali Imran]

There you go Hope! We are moslems

You're not a follower of Jesus. You cannot claim to be a follower of Jesus because you follow Paul, whose teachings contradict Jesus's teachings. You cannot say you follow both.

So, you're not a Muslim by virtue of being a follower of a prophet sent by Allah.

[Ali Imran]

Yes, the Jews follow the Torah, the Christians follow the Injil...

When Jesus says, "Keep the commandments", do you follow?

[Lukongsimi]

That pachik likes to provoke quarrels every day ooh sim!
We believe what we believe is it your business?

[pinkpanther]

You're not a follower of Jesus. You cannot claim to be a follower of Jesus because you follow Paul, whose teachings contradict Jesus's teachings. You cannot say you follow both.

So, you're not a Muslim by virtue of being a follower of a prophet sent by Allah.

Are we not finished with this Jesus and paul topic? Clearly, I follow Jesus....I was baptized and pray to God, my Father. Of course, I am not a Moslem...the Quran makes that claim, not me.

[Hope]

Yes..Allah will stop when He wants....but your friend is asking me to take a position.. I am taking any position that Allah wills...sound fair?

How are you sure you can live long to see what position Allah has taken?

Any way, These people have taken their position 

https://youtu.be/Te8jjZcubGE?si=WweHqrOasMkm3VeS


https://youtu.be/Jgzli-g24TU?si=_8DoZYcbkqdLlweX

https://youtu.be/L9AGebmDa_E?si=cVmCBSTS3kCMW7Zj

https://youtu.be/Jgzli-g24TU?si=r5RtV3hYLxV_kOYc

[Ali Imran]

Are we not finished with this Jesus and paul topic? Clearly, I follow Jesus....I was baptized and pray to God, my Father. Of course, I am not a Moslem...the Quran makes that claim, not me.

Why are you not keeping the commandments as Jesus told his followers that they must?

[pinkpanther]

When Jesus says, "Keep the commandments", do you follow?

 you want to go to the islamic dilemma after this...SimTan has addressed this topic many times...can we get a new one so that we can press on

[Ali Imran]

That pachik likes to provoke quarrels  every day ooh sim!
We believe what we believe is it your business?

No, it's none of my business what you want to believe.

Do you know what is a forum?

[pinkpanther]

Why are you not keeping the commandments as Jesus told his followers that they must?

You tell me what are the commandments of Jesus? There are many , which ones are we not following?

[Ali Imran]

 you want to go to the islamic dilemma after this...SimTan has addressed this topic many times...can we get a new one so that we can press on

SimTan will quote Paul when I asked him the same question. Ergo, he is a follower of Paul, not Jesus.

So now your turn. Why are you not keeping the commandments in obedience to the teachings of Jesus?

[Hope]

Is Allah a fence sitter since He is doing nothing much to solve the issue?

“If Allah were to punish people ˹immediately˺ for their wrongdoing, He would not have left a single living being on earth. But He delays them for an appointed term. And when their time arrives, they cannot delay it for a moment, nor could they advance it.”Quran 16:61

[Ali Imran]

 you want to go to the islamic dilemma after this..

If you want to repeat the same "I know the Quran better than the Muslim scholars" arguments to prove that we have a dilemma, I will repeat the same answers. 

The dilemma is only in your head.

[Lukongsimi]

No wonder he was banned in edwm it’s a forum and he takes it as a battle ground
Hurting people as if it’s his business.

[Hope]

If the current position of God is a fence sitter...I am OK to go along with that definition 

I'm going where He goes

“If Allah were to punish people ˹immediately˺ for their wrongdoing, He would not have left a single living being on earth. But He delays them for an appointed term. And when their time arrives, they cannot delay it for a moment, nor could they advance it.”Quran 16:61

[pinkpanther]

How are you sure you can live long to see what position Allah has taken?

Any way, These people have taken their position 

That's good.. I may not live to see the final outcome, but taking any stance is a choice made by humans. I choose to follow what God wills, even if the end result will appear inhumane or unacceptable to others.

[Hope]

Yes, the Jews follow the Torah, the Christians follow the Injil...

They are following small portions from Torah and Injeel. The majority are their own writings 

https://youtube.com/shorts/wbezzjqbqKU?s...WDth0z-GGJ

[pinkpanther]

If you want to repeat the same "I know the Quran better than the Muslim scholars" arguments to prove that we have a dilemma, I will repeat the same answers. 

The dilemma is only in your head.

Even Moslems have varying interpretations of the Quran. Let me say this: Muhammad was supposed to consult the People of the Book if he had any doubts. That individual would be salaam...Does that make sense?

The Islamic dilemma lives on!

[Lukongsimi]

As one ages he suffers menopause and this is how he becomes
A quarrelsome old man
Every day he will pick up stones to disturb the Christians not knowing he is on the wrong path

[Hope]

That's good.. I may not live to see the final outcome, but taking any stance is a choice made by humans. I choose to follow what God wills, even if the end result will appear inhumane or unacceptable to others.

At the end 
the Righteous will be victorious 👍👌✍️

[Ali Imran]

No wonder he was banned in edwm it’s a forum and he takes it as a battle ground
Hurting people as if it’s  his business.

There is an easy solution that other Christians like LuncheonMeat have taken. Don't come in here and engage me. I am compelled to tell you what I believe about your faith, ie, misguided. 

If that hurts you, don't come in here. This is a forum.

[Lukongsimi]

They are following small portions from Torah and Injeel. The majority are their own writings 

https://youtube.com/shorts/wbezzjqbqKU?s...WDth0z-GGJ

Able to get 15% words from the living God is more than enough 
Compare to a non talking god

[Ali Imran]

Even Moslems have varying interpretations of the Quran. Let me say this: Muhammad was supposed to consult the People of the Book if he had any doubts. That individual would be salaam...Does that make sense?

The Islamic dilemma lives on!

So you think you know the Quran better than every Muslim scholar with varying interpretations of the Quran?

[pinkpanther]

They are following small portions from Torah and Injeel. The majority are their own writings 

How do you know a majority are corrupted scriptures?

I can write a fake book and sell it...but that does not mean all the people are reading my corrupted book..make sense to you?

[Lukongsimi]

There is an easy solution that other Christians like LuncheonMeat have taken. Don't come in here and engage me. I am compelled to tell you what I believe about your faith, ie, misguided. 

If that hurts you, don't come in here. This is a forum.

Who scared u? 
U should behave yourself if u want to debate

[pinkpanther]

So you think you know the Quran better than every Muslim scholar with varying interpretations of the Quran?

you want an unified message and not to get a few variations of interpretations...the Quran is clear isnt it..why do you need variations

[pinkpanther]

Who scared u? 
U should behave yourself if u want to debate

I support my bro LKSM 

[Lukongsimi]

How do you know a majority are corrupted scriptures?

I can write a fake book and sell it...but that does not mean all the people are reading my corrupted book..make sense to you?

Their book also corrupted lah

[Ali Imran]

Who scared u? 
U should behave yourself if u want to debate

Thank you for the advice.

Why do you believe we are on the wrong path? I believe the true God is only 1 person. Jesus also taught exactly the same, the true God is only 1 person. 

So why am I on the wrong path and you're on the right path even though you believe God is 3 persons?

[Hope]

How do you know a majority are corrupted scriptures?

I can write a fake book and sell it...but that does not mean all the people are reading my corrupted book..make sense to you?

Out of these 27, which are the Gods words?



Gospels:

1. Matthew 
   
2. Mark 
   
3. Luke 
   
4. John 
   

Church History: 

1. Acts of the Apostles 
   

Letters of Paul:

1. Romans 
   
2. 1 Corinthians 
   
3. 2 Corinthians 
   
4. Galatians 
   
5. Ephesians 
   
6. Philippians 
   
7. Colossians 
   
8. 1 Thessalonians 
   
9. 2 Thessalonians 
   
10. 1 Timothy 
    
11. 2 Timothy 
    
12. Titus 
    
13. Philemon 
    

General Epistles (Letters to a wider audience): 

1. Hebrews 
   
2. James 
   
3. 1 Peter 
   
4. 2 Peter 
   
5. 1 John 
   
6. 2 John 
   
7. 3 John 
   
8. Jude 
   

Prophecy: 

1. Revelation
   

[Lukongsimi]

I support my bro LKSM 

Have to support each other mah
Lol