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(05-06-2025, 07:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: These are for work purposes...they will return once work is done...the problems are the moslem refugees or illegal immigrants who seek safety and a better life in Europe ..they are there to stay!! You are mistaken..
Talk about compassion ....yet so many moslem countries refuse to take in these unfortunates who share the same faith as them...it is embarrassing
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/201...opulation/
So you're wrong to say no Christians would want to go to rich Muslim countries.
Why are the Christians going to rich Muslim countries? Because they want a better life for their families.
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(05-06-2025, 05:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: AI Overview
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The Quran is interpreted in various ways by Muslims, leading to different understandings of its teachings. These interpretations can differ based on scholarly traditions, cultural contexts, and individual perspectives. Some interpretations are broad, considering historical context and application to specific situations, while others are more fundamentalist, applying verses universally.
So which interpretation is God's words?
scholars have already change the meaning of the scriptures with their own interpretations
And Islam is still exactly the same today as it was when the religion was perfected in the 7th century.
That is a sign of a true religion. Even after 1,400+ years, the 5 pillars of Islam are still the same, the 6 articles of faith are still the same.
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(05-06-2025, 05:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Don give me your bullshit story for a lack of foreign cabbies.. 
You don talk like you know everything ...millions of moslems are granted refugee status, many more millions migrated to Europe ....and also a large percent of migrants entering illegally ..
Look your own islamic countries...they don even accept the refugees...even though moslems who opt to migrate do not choose a moslem country...what more can be said about your religion? Moslems don help moslems and you expect a merciful God?....it is only in your dreams ..
You will never see waves of Europeans desperately seeking migration to any moslem countries...wake up and smell the kopi... stop dreaming in your la la land!
A whole lot can be said about Islam, the religion that is seeing many converts in traditionally Christian nations like the US and the UK, according to Pew Research.
Your claim of millions of Muslims leaving Islam cannot be substantiated by data.
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(05-06-2025, 07:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So you're wrong to say no Christians would want to go to rich Muslim countries.
Why are the Christians going to rich Muslim countries? Because they want a better life for their families.
Do they stay permanently?
No!
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(05-06-2025, 07:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: A whole lot can be said about Islam, the religion that is seeing many converts in traditionally Christian nations like the US and the UK, according to Pew Research.
Your claim of millions of Muslims leaving Islam cannot be substantiated by data.
In UK alone it is already 100k...and that exclude the rest of the world .you do not need to be a genius to do the maths
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(05-06-2025, 07:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: A whole lot can be said about Islam, the religion that is seeing many converts in traditionally Christian nations like the US and the UK, according to Pew Research.
Your claim of millions of Muslims leaving Islam cannot be substantiated by data.
Don take my words for it...take the words of moslem experts who have done the research..
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(05-06-2025, 08:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Don take my words for it...take the words of moslem experts who have done the research..
Do they have any data to substantiate their claim?
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(05-06-2025, 06:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Why Jesus said the Father is greater than I
Why?
Does Jesus have a lower status than the Father?
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(Yesterday, 07:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do they have any data to substantiate their claim?
I think you are missing a few screws
You said it doesn't run in the millions..I don't need to present worldwide statistics. In Indonesia alone, two million Moslems leave Islam each year.
https://www.persecution.org/2024/07/05/m...indonesia/
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(Yesterday, 07:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Why?
Does Jesus have a lower status than the Father?
Nope, they are equal...
However, in your Shahada, Muhammad appears to be given equal standing with Allah. ...The fact remains that I cannot be a Moslem if I only submit to Allah... I also need to submit to His creation Muhammad ...This does not make sense and it presents yet another dilemma.
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(05-06-2025, 07:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: In UK alone it is already 100k...and that exclude the rest of the world .you do not need to be a genius to do the maths
(05-06-2025, 08:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Don take my words for it...take the words of moslem experts who have done the research..
(Yesterday, 07:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do they have any data to substantiate their claim?
He is another you tuber trying to make money to build his house.Singapore Master Leong made S$ 4000 talking finance last month. This Nigerian man cheating Christian to make his money 😂
Most of the countries he quoted have apostasy laws.
If people convert, They are punishable by death.
He is from Nigeria. It was Christian majority country. Now it is a Muslim majority country 😂why doesn’t he talk about this?
CBN is Christian broadcasting network.They have to broadcast such news to keep the viewers to make money from sponsors.
Muslim leave the religion for
1) marriages
2) citizenship
3) to drink Alcohol
4) to eat pork
5) to gamble
6) to have many sexual contact
7) to use musical instruments to pray to God
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(Yesterday, 07:54 AM)Hope Wrote: He is another you tuber trying to make money to build his house.
Most of the countries he quoted have apostasy laws.
If people convert, They are punishable by death.
CBN is Christian broadcasting network.They have to broadcast such news to keep the viewers to make money from sponsors.
Muslim leave the religion for
1) marriages
2) citizenship
3) to drink Alcohol
4) to eat pork
5) to gamble
6) to have many sexual contact
I also can say moslems leave because they don believe in Muhammad and there are no testimonies of Allah's existence...
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(Yesterday, 07:54 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Nope, they are equal...
However, in your Shahada, Muhammad appears to be given equal standing with Allah. ...The fact remains that I cannot be a Moslem if I only submit to Allah... I also need to submit to His creation Muhammad ...This does not make sense and it presents yet another dilemma. 
Only you will think that when we say Muhammad is a servant of Allah means Muhammad has equal standing with Allah.
So, why is it that in the first 300 years of Christianity, Jesus had a lower status than the Father? Did Jesus get a promotion after that?
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(Yesterday, 07:48 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: I think you are missing a few screws
You said it doesn't run in the millions..I don't need to present worldwide statistics. In Indonesia alone, two million Moslems leave Islam each year.
https://www.persecution.org/2024/07/05/m...indonesia/
Pew Research data tell a different story.
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(Yesterday, 08:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Only you will think that when we say Muhammad is a servant of Allah means Muhammad has equal standing with Allah.
So, why is it that in the first 300 years of Christianity, Jesus had a lower status than the Father? Did Jesus get a promotion after that?
If I submit to Allah, it is equivalent to respecting all of His messengers. Why does Allah need a partner or associate? Jesus in the flesh is always considered subordinate to His Father, who is divine....
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(Yesterday, 08:07 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: If I submit to Allah, it is equivalent to respecting all of His messengers. Why does Allah need a partner or associate? Jesus in the flesh is always considered subordinate to His Father, who is divine....
Only you will think that a servant is a partner to the master.
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(Yesterday, 08:06 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Pew Research data tell a different story.
![[Image: GLL3ORq.png]](https://i.imgur.com/GLL3ORq.png)
A population of 290million yet 0% entered islam and left islam

you really believe? I can't believe in your stupidity.... Christianity is growing in Indonesia yet no moslems cross over...
Now I can understand why you ask to be treated like a 7 yrs old
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(Yesterday, 08:07 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Jesus in the flesh is always considered subordinate to His Father, who is divine....
Is the flesh 100% God?
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(Yesterday, 08:12 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: A population of 290million yet 0% entered islam and left islam
you really believe? I can't believe in your stupidity.... Christianity is growing in Indonesia yet no moslems cross over... 
Pew Research is a credible organization. It is neither Christian nor Islamic.
I rather trust their data than your youtuber making claims with no data to substantiate it.
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(Yesterday, 08:12 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Only you will think that a servant is a partner to the master.
Only islam will seat the master and the servant together at the same table.
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(Yesterday, 08:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Only islam will seat the master and the servant together at the same table.
After being exposed for making a silly comment, you will then resort to lies, as though you know Islam better than the Muslims.
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(Yesterday, 07:54 AM)Hope Wrote: He is another you tuber trying to make money to build his house.Singapore Master Leong made S$ 4000 talking finance last month. This Nigerian man cheating Christian to make his money 😂
Most of the countries he quoted have apostasy laws.
If people convert, They are punishable by death.
He is from Nigeria. It was Christian majority country. Now it is a Muslim majority country 😂why doesn’t he talk about this?
CBN is Christian broadcasting network.They have to broadcast such news to keep the viewers to make money from sponsors.
Muslim leave the religion for
1) marriages
2) citizenship
3) to drink Alcohol
4) to eat pork
5) to gamble
6) to have many sexual contact
7) to use musical instruments to pray to God
(Yesterday, 08:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: I also can say moslems leave because they don believe in Muhammad and there are no testimonies of Allah's existence...
Islam has no competitors.
There was only one Muslim 1400 years ago when there were millions of Christian, Hindu and Buddhist.
Now there are billions of Muslims.
There are many verses confirming Allah’s existence
“Allah! There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him, the Ever-Living, All-Sustaining. Neither drowsiness nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who could possibly intercede with Him without His permission? He ˹fully˺ knows what is ahead of them and what is behind them, but no one can grasp any of His knowledge—except what He wills ˹to reveal˺. His Seat1 encompasses the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of both does not tire Him. For He is the Most High, the Greatest.”Quran 2:255
“Indeed your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days,1 then established Himself on the Throne. He makes the day and night overlap in rapid succession. He created the sun, the moon, and the stars—all subjected by His command. The creation and the command belong to Him ˹alone˺. Blessed is Allah—Lord of all worlds!”Quran 7:54
He is the One Who enables you to travel through land and sea. And it so happens that you are on ships, sailing with a favourable wind, to the passengers’ delight. Suddenly, the ships are overcome by a gale wind and those on board are overwhelmed by waves from every side, and they assume they are doomed. They cry out to Allah ˹alone˺ in sincere devotion, “If You save us from this, we will certainly be grateful.”Quran 10:22
When one is touched with hardship, they cry out to their Lord, turning to Him ˹alone˺. But as soon as He showers them with blessings from Him, they ˹totally˺ forget the One they had cried to earlier, and set up equals to Allah to mislead ˹others˺ from His Way. Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Enjoy your disbelief for a little while! You will certainly be one of the inmates of the Fire.”Quran 39:8
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O humanity! If you are in doubt of my faith, then ˹know that˺ I do not worship those ˹idols˺ you worship instead of Allah. But I worship Allah, Who has the power to cause your death. And I have been commanded, ‘Be one of the believers,’Quran 10:104
And, although their hearts were convinced the signs were true, they still denied them wrongfully and arrogantly. See then what was the end of the corruptors!”Quran 27:14
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(Yesterday, 08:07 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: If I submit to Allah, it is equivalent to respecting all of His messengers. Why does Allah need a partner or associate? Jesus in the flesh is always considered subordinate to His Father, who is divine....
Can Jesus put people to death?
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(Yesterday, 08:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Pew Research is a credible organization. It is neither Christian nor Islamic.
I rather trust their data than your youtuber making claims with no data to substantiate it.
india with a larger population has no moslems leaving and entering...I'm amazed at your IQ
Anyway I have shown you the article...they do a better research thân your pew...0% in and out for Indonesia and India...you are a fool
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(Yesterday, 08:18 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: After being exposed for making a silly comment, you will then resort to lies, as though you know Islam better than the Muslims.
thats the truth...I need to acknowledge god and man at the same time in order to become a moslem
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(Yesterday, 08:23 AM)Hope Wrote: Can Jesus put people to death?
Put who to death? Jesus never do that! He is sinless
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(Yesterday, 08:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Anyway I have shown you the article...they do a better research thân your pew...0% in and out for Indonesia and India...you are a fool 
Did they show you any data? Or do you believe people who offered no proof, just as long as it agrees with your position?
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(Yesterday, 08:20 AM)Hope Wrote: Islam has no competitors.
There was only one Muslim 1400 years ago when there were millions of Christian, Hindu and Buddhist.
Now there are billions of Muslims.
Islam has no competitors

Christianity has maintained its position as the largest religion for a long time... this is in accordance with God's will...
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(Yesterday, 08:23 AM)Hope Wrote: Can Jesus put people to death?
(Yesterday, 08:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Put who to death? Jesus never do that! He is sinless
Does Jesus has power to cause death?
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(Yesterday, 08:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: thats the truth...I need to acknowledge god and man at the same time in order to become a moslem
We acknowledge Allah as the 1 true God, and a man, a servant of Allah, as the messenger Allah sent to us.
We don't make the servant equal to the Lord, like you.