[pinkpanther]

And the Father doesn't have that dual nature?

Why do you, in your Shahada, associate a living God with His dead creation?

[Lukongsimi]

That cow does not believe in this report...
Even his sheikh is talking on TV, he also doesnt believe

Anything not in his favour is gullible 

[Lukongsimi]

Why do you, in your Shahada, associate a living God with His dead creation?

on judgement day his prophet won’t be there to say “ well done my servant whom I please ”

[Ali Imran]

Why do you, in your Shahada, associate a living God with His dead creation?

No, we don't.

[Ali Imran]

There are only 1 God, 3 persons sharing the same divine nature. Yes. They are all equal

Each person is 100% God, so they are equal. Is that what you mean by equal?

But in terms of nature, one has 2 natures while the other 2 don't. So they are not equal in that sense. Correct?

[Ali Imran]

How many Muslims convert to Christianity?




In a televised interview on Al-Jazeera in 2001, he stated that every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. That adds up to 16,000 per day, or approximately 6 million per year—in Africa alone. While the numbers have been debated, no one can deny the broader trend of conversions from Islam to Christianity.13 May 2025

Do you have any data to corroborate that claim?

[Ali Imran]

Relatedly, neither God the Father nor God the Holy Spirit died on the cross. The Trinity was not all of a sudden in disarray, confused, conflated, separated, or out of order. The Father sent the Son; he did not send himself. The Holy Spirit was active in the incarnation at conception, but did not himself put on flesh.

Did the son plead with the Father to save him?

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/dNmI-vPH3XM?si=6dCY2glffsvrr4hQ

Islam is about Lie and live ?

[cheekopekman]

Did the son plead with the Father to save him?

Yes lah! Jesus did pray to the Father to take away His cup of suffering lah!

[pinkpanther]

Do you have any data to corroborate that claim?

Do you have numbers?

[pinkpanther]

Each person is 100% God, so they are equal. Is that what you mean by equal?

But in terms of nature, one has 2 natures while the other 2 don't. So they are not equal in that sense. Correct?

They are equal in divine nature

[Ali Imran]

They are equal in divine nature

But not human nature, right?

[pinkpanther]

on judgement day his prophet won’t be there to say “ well done my servant whom I please ”

  His prophet will be resurrected

[pinkpanther]

But not human nature, right?

Yes...only in divine nature!

[Ali Imran]

Yes...only in divine nature!

They are not equal in that sense. One has a dual nature, but the other two have only a single nature.

Agree?

[pinkpanther]

They are not equal in that sense. One has a dual nature, but the other two have only a single nature.

Agree?

Yes...they are all equal in their divine nature.

[Ali Imran]

Yes...they are all equal in their divine nature.

But one of them has a 2nd nature. That means he is not the same God as the other 2.

[pinkpanther]

But one of them has a 2nd nature. That means he is not the same God as the other 2.

They shared the same nature but distinct in persons

[Ali Imran]

They shared the same nature but distinct in persons

But not the human nature, correct?

So they cannot all be equal. One is special, coz he has 2 natures.

[pinkpanther]

But not the human nature, correct?

So they cannot all be equal. One is special, coz he has 2 natures.

His human nature does not interfere with His divine nature

[Ali Imran]

His human nature does not interfere with His divine nature

All I'm trying to do is get you to agree that one of them is special, having an additional nature that the other 2 don't have.

And since all 3 are fully God, that makes one of them a special fully God with an additional nature.


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[pinkpanther]

All I'm trying to do is get you to agree that one of them is special, having an additional nature that the other 2 don't have.

And since all 3 are fully God, that makes one of them a special fully God with an additional nature.


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These two natures are united in his person without confusion or change but also without division or separation...it does not make Jesus special from the Father and the Holy spirit

[Ali Imran]

These two natures are united in his person without confusion or change but also without division or separation...it does not make Jesus special from the Father and the Holy spirit

Ok. If you don't like the word "special", we can skip it. Let's use another word.

One of the fully God is different from the other 2 fully God.

Agree?

[pinkpanther]

Did God die on the cross then?

Where is Jesus now? Muhammad is not the last messenger...Jesus is!

[pinkpanther]

Ok. If you don't like the word "special", we can skip it. Let's use another word.

One of the fully God is different from the other 2 fully God.

Agree?

He is not different. He is only different in the role that He has to play..each person is different and has different roles.

[Ali Imran]

He is not different. He is only different in the role that He has to play..each person is different and has different roles.

Different in having 2 natures while the other 2 only have 1 nature, correct?

[pinkpanther]

Ok. If you don't like the word "special", we can skip it. Let's use another word.

One of the fully God is different from the other 2 fully God.

Agree?

According to Islam...is Jesus a man? Where is He now? Why did Allah not zap Muhammad up into heaven but let him suffered death...isnt it merciful to keep him alive until judgement day?

[pinkpanther]

Different in having 2 natures while the other 2 only have 1 nature, correct?

His role requires Him to take up another nature..but it does not make him any extra special from the Father and Holy Spirit

[Ali Imran]

His role requires Him to take up another nature..but it does not make him any extra special from the Father and Holy Spirit

Ok. Not special but different.

So they are not all equal on the count of 1 being different, correct?

[Ali Imran]

According to Islam...is Jesus a man? Where is He now? Why did Allah not zap Muhammad up into heaven but let him suffered death...isnt it merciful to keep him alive until judgement day?

According to you, Jesus is a man too, correct?