[Ali Imran]

it was not a self-inflicted act

You mean he didn't want to die, but they killed him?

[Lukongsimi]

Demonic people provokes u until u gets angry n blame u

[cheekopekman]

You mean he didn't want to die, but they killed him?

He had to fulfill an ancient prophecy lah!

[Ali Imran]

He had to fulfill an ancient prophecy lah!

Did any of the previous biblical prophets ever speak of this prophecy?

[pinkpanther]

You mean he didn't want to die, but they killed him?

Yes ..the romans killed him

[Ali Imran]

Yes ..the romans killed him

So what you said before is not true?

Jesus willingly offered himself as a sacrifice 

[pinkpanther]

So what you said before is not true?

Jesus voluntarily sacrificed himself, while the Romans carried out his execution.

[Ali Imran]

Jesus voluntarily sacrificed himself, while the Romans carried out his execution.

You mean Jesus voluntarily got himself killed?

Isn't that suicide?

[pinkpanther]

You mean Jesus voluntarily got himself killed?

Isn't that suicide?

Yes .he voluntarily sacrifice himself.

[Ali Imran]

Yes .he voluntarily sacrifice himself.

Ok. That's suicide.

[pinkpanther]

Ok. That's suicide.

Suicide is the act of intentionally causing one's own death.

A sacrifice is the act of giving up something valuable or important, often for the benefit of others or a greater cause.

[Ali Imran]

Suicide is the act of intentionally causing one's own death.

A sacrifice is the act of giving up something valuable or important, often for the benefit of others or a greater cause.

According to you, Jesus intentionally and willingly caused his death. 

A man can also sacrifice himself for his family by committing suicide, and his family will benefit from the insurance payout.

[pinkpanther]

According to you, Jesus intentionally and willingly caused his death. 

A man can also sacrifice himself for his family by committing suicide, and his family will benefit from the insurance payout.

When did I say Jesus intentionally and willingly caused his death?

[Lukongsimi]

Pachik thinks it's suicide bomber of terrorists

What they can get 72 v
How silly to compare sacrifice with suicide

[Ali Imran]

When did I say Jesus intentionally and willingly caused his death?

So did Jesus willingly sacrifice himself or not?

[Lukongsimi]

If jesus is not willing to go to the cross he would have ran away and hide himself
He won't have waited till the romans came and arrest Him!
Toaist people killed chickens to offer to their god
Is it suicide or sacrifice?

[Ali Imran]

If jesus is not willing to go to the cross he would have ran away and hide himself
He won't have waited till the romans came and arrest Him!
Toaist people  killed chickens to offer to their god
Is it suicide or sacrifice?

Did the chicken willingly offer itself to be killed?

[Lukongsimi]

Chickens are destined to be killed n eaten whether willing or not.

[Ali Imran]

Chickens are destined to be killed n eaten whether willing or not.

Also, chickens belong to somebody, so that somebody sacrifices that chicken, which means he will lose it after sacrificing it.

Now, if God sacrifices another God but God doesn't lose a God, is that really a sacrifice?

[pinkpanther]

So did Jesus willingly sacrifice himself or not?

Yes..when you said that he committed suicide, you are attributing sins to Him

[Lukongsimi]

It’s the blood that needs to wash away sins not the body 
The body resurrected back to life after mission completed

[Ali Imran]

Yes..when you said that he committed suicide, you are attributing sins to Him

If one intentionally or willingly kills oneself, isn't that suicide?

[Lukongsimi]

Old man why needs so
Much explanation ?
Or die die want to win?

[Ali Imran]

It’s the blood that needs to wash away sins not the body 
The body resurrected back to life after mission completed

The definition of sacrifice is giving up something valuable to you for a greater cause. For example, if I sacrifice a goat, I can never get it back.  

So, Jesus didn't lose anything. How is that a sacrifice?

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus endured scorn, ridicule, betrayal, brutal torture, and execution on a cross. Though innocent of sin or any wrongdoing, He chose to give His life as an atoning sacrifice for sinners, bridging the separation between a God and sinful humanity.

[Lukongsimi]

U are still an ignoramus
Your religion is about peaceful killings ?

[Ali Imran]

Jesus endured scorn, ridicule, betrayal, brutal torture, and execution on a cross. Though innocent of sin or any wrongdoing, He chose to give His life as an atoning sacrifice for sinners, bridging the separation between a God and sinful humanity.

If I sacrifice my life, I will not get it back. That's a real sacrifice.

You believe Jesus got back his life after just 3 days. How is that a sacrifice? Please explain.

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/m-x5taTb5To?si=xpvrdSe0NQ_KwDP1

Even a jihad converts amazing!

[Lukongsimi]

If I sacrifice my life, I will not get it back. That's a real sacrifice.

You believe Jesus got back his life after just 3 days. How is that a sacrifice? Please explain.

God cannot die lah don’t be stupid!
Only 3 days that is it!

[Ali Imran]

God cannot die lah don’t be stupid!
Only 3 days that is it!

So there wasn't a sacrifice to begin with.