Scripture readings for Christmas
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(30-06-2025, 12:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If the 3 persons have the same divine will, it follows that it is also Jesus's will that gave that command to kill women, children, and infants, correct?
Like I said that the OT did not say that Jesus played a part in the Father's command to destroy the Amalekites...it is the will of the Father
30-06-2025, 01:28 PM
(30-06-2025, 11:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: It is happening now, not in the past.Heartless can survive meh?
And you have justified the killing of innocent women, children, and infants. I called you heartless for that, remember?
Why u never pray to your allah to stop the killings ?
Grumble here is useless lah
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 01:30 PM
(30-06-2025, 12:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If the 3 persons have the same divine will, it follows that it is also Jesus's will that gave that command to kill women, children, and infants, correct?U dare to question God !
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 01:37 PM
(30-06-2025, 11:39 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: No, you're wrong. We are not told to believe in the Bible.
So why are you asking us questions about the scriptures ?
Accusing us of not following the laws and being heartless ?
Nothing to talk is it?
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 01:44 PM
The Amalekites persisted in their sin
The most immediate answer would seem to be that unlike the people of Ninevah, the Amalekites did not repent, though they were given plenty of time to do so. In Genesis 15 God says to Abraham that his people shall sojourn in Egypt until the time of their redemption corresponds with the end of the grace period extended to the Amorites:
“And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16 ESV)
God won’t give Israel the land until it is just and appropriate to take it from the Amorites. The Exodus and Conquest are thus simultaneously works of salvation and judgment. A comparison of texts like Deuteronomy 1:44 and Numbers 14:45 suggests that “the Amorites” and “the Amalekites” were two ways of referring to the same people. That means that God gave the Amalekites more than 400 years to turn from their wicked ways – as compared to the 40 days that he gave to the people of Nineveh – but unlike the Ninevites, the Amalekites did not repent. They persisted and progressed in sin and wickedness.
The Bible is very clear: those who do not turn from their sin will eventually fall under judgment. The New Testament Apostles did not understand that reality to have been nullified by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather they understood this Old Testament story, and others like it, as:
“an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6 ESV)
God has a settled antagonism against sin. It has no lasting place in his creation. Therefore, all who are wise will forsake their sin and seek absolution through the means that he provides. Otherwise, their fate, will be identical to that of the Amalekites.
The most immediate answer would seem to be that unlike the people of Ninevah, the Amalekites did not repent, though they were given plenty of time to do so. In Genesis 15 God says to Abraham that his people shall sojourn in Egypt until the time of their redemption corresponds with the end of the grace period extended to the Amorites:
“And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16 ESV)
God won’t give Israel the land until it is just and appropriate to take it from the Amorites. The Exodus and Conquest are thus simultaneously works of salvation and judgment. A comparison of texts like Deuteronomy 1:44 and Numbers 14:45 suggests that “the Amorites” and “the Amalekites” were two ways of referring to the same people. That means that God gave the Amalekites more than 400 years to turn from their wicked ways – as compared to the 40 days that he gave to the people of Nineveh – but unlike the Ninevites, the Amalekites did not repent. They persisted and progressed in sin and wickedness.
The Bible is very clear: those who do not turn from their sin will eventually fall under judgment. The New Testament Apostles did not understand that reality to have been nullified by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather they understood this Old Testament story, and others like it, as:
“an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6 ESV)
God has a settled antagonism against sin. It has no lasting place in his creation. Therefore, all who are wise will forsake their sin and seek absolution through the means that he provides. Otherwise, their fate, will be identical to that of the Amalekites.
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 01:58 PM
(30-06-2025, 08:55 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Innocents die in war, that is the reality...bombs have no eyes...the aim is to cause a major destruction...or you can follow the humane way like Israel...they allow the Palestinians to leave Gaza...
(30-06-2025, 10:44 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: They were told to treat the Palestinians like Amaleks. That means kill all, including women, children, and infants. They targeted the starving Palestinians who were looking for food. They killed nuns and priests outside a church.
You call that humane?
They were told to leave but did they leave leh?

30-06-2025, 04:07 PM
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 04:24 PM
(30-06-2025, 01:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The Amalekites persisted in their sin
The most immediate answer would seem to be that unlike the people of Ninevah, the Amalekites did not repent, though they were given plenty of time to do so. In Genesis 15 God says to Abraham that his people shall sojourn in Egypt until the time of their redemption corresponds with the end of the grace period extended to the Amorites:
“And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16 ESV)
God won’t give Israel the land until it is just and appropriate to take it from the Amorites. The Exodus and Conquest are thus simultaneously works of salvation and judgment. A comparison of texts like Deuteronomy 1:44 and Numbers 14:45 suggests that “the Amorites” and “the Amalekites” were two ways of referring to the same people. That means that God gave the Amalekites more than 400 years to turn from their wicked ways – as compared to the 40 days that he gave to the people of Nineveh – but unlike the Ninevites, the Amalekites did not repent. They persisted and progressed in sin and wickedness.
The Bible is very clear: those who do not turn from their sin will eventually fall under judgment. The New Testament Apostles did not understand that reality to have been nullified by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather they understood this Old Testament story, and others like it, as:
“an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6 ESV)
God has a settled antagonism against sin. It has no lasting place in his creation. Therefore, all who are wise will forsake their sin and seek absolution through the means that he provides. Otherwise, their fate, will be identical to that of the Amalekites.
God gave them time but they did not repent...so how?

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(30-06-2025, 04:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: God gave them time but they did not repent...so how?Esau ‘s generation
Esau sold his birthright to Jacob now Israel
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 04:53 PM
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
30-06-2025, 05:21 PM
(30-06-2025, 04:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So they have separate wills?
If that is the will of the Father, then Jesus and the Holy Spirit will submit to it....however, this does not imply that Jesus played a role in it.
I also submit to the will of the Father who destroyed the Amalekites....since Allah is not capable of absolute destruction then it is 100% confirm that the God of the Quran is different from the God of the OT and NT

30-06-2025, 05:34 PM
(30-06-2025, 05:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: If that is the will of the Father, then Jesus and the Holy Spirit will submit to it....however, this does not imply that Jesus played a role in it.
I also submit to the will of the Father who destroyed the Amalekites....since Allah is not capable of absolute destruction then it is 100% confirm that the God of the Quran is different from the God of the OT and NT
So you believe your God, which includes Jesus coz they have the same will, is merciless?
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30-06-2025, 05:41 PM
(30-06-2025, 05:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So you believe your God, which includes Jesus coz they have the same will, is merciless?
The Amalekites' consistent pattern of violence and opposition to God's people, despite opportunities to turn away from evil, resulted in the judgment against them....God has given them enough time to repent...
We all submit to the will of the Father...if Allah is merciful and has nothing to do with the amalekites then it is absolutely clear that you do not pray to the God of jesus
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