Scripture readings for Christmas

(30-06-2025, 12:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes... remember that they are 3 distinct persons with different roles

Do they share the same divine will?
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(30-06-2025, 12:24 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did Jesus abolish that law or not?

No, Jesus did not abolish the Old Testament dietary laws.
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(30-06-2025, 12:24 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do they share the same divine will?

Yes of cos..
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(30-06-2025, 12:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No, Jesus did not abolish the Old Testament dietary laws.

Do you eat pork?
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(30-06-2025, 12:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes of cos..

So when God commanded the Israelites to commit genocide, Jesus also agreed, correct?
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(30-06-2025, 12:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you eat pork?

Some times...why not? Jesus declared all food to be clean
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(30-06-2025, 12:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Some times...why not? Jesus declared all food to be clean

So Jesus abolished the law that prohibits pork, correct?
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(30-06-2025, 12:36 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus abolished the law that prohibits pork, correct?

Nope...some can choose not to consume pork..it is not a compulsory
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(30-06-2025, 12:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Nope...some can choose not to consume pork..it is not a compulsory

You mean Jesus made that law optional?
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(30-06-2025, 12:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So when God commanded the Israelites to commit genocide, Jesus also agreed, correct?

It never says in the OT that Jesus agreed Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 12:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It never says in the OT that Jesus agreed Big Grin

If the 3 persons have the same divine will, it follows that it is also Jesus's will that gave that command to kill women, children, and infants, correct?
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(30-06-2025, 12:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If the 3 persons have the same divine will, it follows that it is also Jesus's will that gave that command to kill women, children, and infants, correct?

Like I said that the OT did not say that Jesus played a part in the Father's command to destroy the Amalekites...it is the will of the Father
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(30-06-2025, 11:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It is happening now, not in the past.

And you have justified the killing of innocent women, children, and infants. I called you heartless for that, remember?
Heartless can survive meh?
Why u never pray to your allah to stop the killings ?
Grumble here is useless lah

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 12:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If the 3 persons have the same divine will, it follows that it is also Jesus's will that gave that command to kill women, children, and infants, correct?
U dare to question God !

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 11:39 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, you're wrong. We are not told to believe in the Bible.

So why are you asking us questions about the scriptures ?
Accusing us of not following the laws and being heartless ?
Nothing to talk is it?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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The Amalekites persisted in their sin

The most immediate answer would seem to be that unlike the people of Ninevah, the Amalekites did not repent, though they were given plenty of time to do so. In Genesis 15 God says to Abraham that his people shall sojourn in Egypt until the time of their redemption corresponds with the end of the grace period extended to the Amorites:

“And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16 ESV)

God won’t give Israel the land until it is just and appropriate to take it from the Amorites. The Exodus and Conquest are thus simultaneously works of salvation and judgment. A comparison of texts like Deuteronomy 1:44 and Numbers 14:45 suggests that “the Amorites” and “the Amalekites” were two ways of referring to the same people. That means that God gave the Amalekites more than 400 years to turn from their wicked ways – as compared to the 40 days that he gave to the people of Nineveh – but unlike the Ninevites, the Amalekites did not repent. They persisted and progressed in sin and wickedness.

The Bible is very clear: those who do not turn from their sin will eventually fall under judgment. The New Testament Apostles did not understand that reality to have been nullified by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather they understood this Old Testament story, and others like it, as:

“an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6 ESV)

God has a settled antagonism against sin. It has no lasting place in his creation. Therefore, all who are wise will forsake their sin and seek absolution through the means that he provides. Otherwise, their fate, will be identical to that of the Amalekites.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 08:55 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Innocents die in war, that is the reality...bombs have no eyes...the aim is to cause a major destruction...or you can follow the humane way like Israel...they allow the Palestinians to leave Gaza...

(30-06-2025, 10:44 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  They were told to treat the Palestinians like Amaleks. That means kill all, including women, children, and infants. They targeted the starving Palestinians who were looking for food. They killed nuns and priests outside a church.

You call that humane?

They were told to leave but did they leave leh? Thinking
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https://youtube.com/shorts/SOeGKJeVwgQ?s...NkSplrGGXw

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 01:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Amalekites persisted in their sin

The most immediate answer would seem to be that unlike the people of Ninevah, the Amalekites did not repent, though they were given plenty of time to do so. In Genesis 15 God says to Abraham that his people shall sojourn in Egypt until the time of their redemption corresponds with the end of the grace period extended to the Amorites:

“And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16 ESV)

God won’t give Israel the land until it is just and appropriate to take it from the Amorites. The Exodus and Conquest are thus simultaneously works of salvation and judgment. A comparison of texts like Deuteronomy 1:44 and Numbers 14:45 suggests that “the Amorites” and “the Amalekites” were two ways of referring to the same people. That means that God gave the Amalekites more than 400 years to turn from their wicked ways – as compared to the 40 days that he gave to the people of Nineveh – but unlike the Ninevites, the Amalekites did not repent. They persisted and progressed in sin and wickedness.

The Bible is very clear: those who do not turn from their sin will eventually fall under judgment. The New Testament Apostles did not understand that reality to have been nullified by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather they understood this Old Testament story, and others like it, as:

“an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6 ESV)

God has a settled antagonism against sin. It has no lasting place in his creation. Therefore, all who are wise will forsake their sin and seek absolution through the means that he provides. Otherwise, their fate, will be identical to that of the Amalekites.

God gave them time but they did not repent...so how? Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 01:58 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  They were told to leave but did they leave leh? Thinking

No leave lah....they want to use body to fight bullets lah...if everyone leaves, Hamas no funding! Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 01:58 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  They were told to leave but did they leave leh? Thinking

Can the Zionists just tell people to leave their homes, which they have been living in for generations?
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(30-06-2025, 12:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Like I said that the OT did not say that Jesus played a part in the Father's command to destroy the Amalekites...it is the will of the Father

So they have separate wills?
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(30-06-2025, 04:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God gave them time but they did not repent...so how? Big Grin
Esau ‘s generation 
Esau sold his birthright to Jacob now Israel

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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https://youtu.be/msvmJh516YU?si=zkXJWZ6SP-tbWCtA

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 04:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So they have separate wills?

If that is the will of the Father, then Jesus and the Holy Spirit will submit to it....however, this does not imply that Jesus played a role in it.

I also submit to the will of the Father who destroyed the Amalekites....since Allah is not capable of absolute destruction then it is 100% confirm that the God of the Quran is different from the God of the OT and NT Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 05:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If that is the will of the Father, then Jesus and the Holy Spirit will submit to it....however, this does not imply that Jesus played a role in it.

I also submit to the will of the Father who destroyed the Amalekites....since Allah is not capable of absolute destruction then it is 100% confirm that the God of the Quran is different from the God of the OT and NT Big Grin

So you believe your God, which includes Jesus coz they have the same will, is merciless?
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(30-06-2025, 04:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can the Zionists just tell people to leave their homes, which they have been living in for generations?

Hello...this is a conflict, don want to leave then don complain when bullets start to fly every where
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(30-06-2025, 04:26 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No leave lah....they want to use body to fight bullets lah...if everyone leaves, Hamas no funding! Big Grin

Do you find it funny that people, including children, are being starved and killed?
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(30-06-2025, 05:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Hello...this is a conflict, don want to leave then don complain when bullets start to fly every where

So you find that it's okay to do ethnic cleansing?
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(30-06-2025, 05:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you believe your God, which includes Jesus coz they have the same will, is merciless?

The Amalekites' consistent pattern of violence and opposition to God's people, despite opportunities to turn away from evil, resulted in the judgment against them....God has given them enough time to repent...

We all submit to the will of the Father...if Allah is merciful and has nothing to do with the amalekites then it is absolutely clear that you do not pray to the God of jesus
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