[pinkpanther]

What he always said about Islam is what he called "work-based" salvation, and emphasized his faith in Paul's Sola Fide.

That one takes only a sentence or two to reply and I've done that.

Defending Paul is what SimTan is good at and the topic on Christianity is broad and there are many questions you can bring up...why do you have to stick with the argument of Paul, the Trinity with SimTan...you can get his views on other aspects as well

[Ali Imran]

If you focus solely on that particular verse..I agree you might have a point but if you read in context about that song then it couldn't be Muhammad

You've heard it being said that God will make the Ishmaelites a great nation. The Kedars are Ishmaelites. 

Have you heard of any prophet sent by God to the Kedars to make them a great nation?

[Ali Imran]

Defending Paul is what SimTan is good at and the topic on Christianity is broad and there are many questions you can bring up...why do you have to stick with the argument of Paul, the Trinity with SimTan...you can get his views on other aspects as well

What is important to us? 

Salvation is most important. Paul's path to salvation differs greatly from the path shown by all the biblical prophets, including the son of Mary, pbuh.

We must discuss critical tenets, not inconsequential ones.

[pinkpanther]

You've heard it being said that God will make the Ishmaelites a great nation. The Kedars are Ishmaelites. 

Have you heard of any prophet sent by God to the Kedars to make them a great nation?

Don just take one ambiguous verse and assume it to be the coming of Muhammad..yes, God will make the Ishmaelites a great nation but it didnt say God will send down a prophet....

Nonetheless Jesus has proclaimed openly to have fulfilled the scriptures of Isaiah

[Ali Imran]

Don just take one ambiguous verse and assume it to be the coming of Muhammad..yes, God will make the Ishmaelites a great nation but it didnt say God will send down a prophet....

Nonetheless Jesus has proclaimed openly to have fulfilled the scriptures of Isaiah

How is God going to make the Ishmaelites a great nation if God didn't send them guidance through a prophet?

[pinkpanther]

How is God going to make the Ishmaelites a great nation if God didn't send them guidance through a prophet?

The guidance is the Torah... you quoted genesis!  according to the Quran, God sent down Jesus to confirm the teachings of the Torah...so Jesus is your prophet

[Ali Imran]

The guidance is the Torah... you quoted genesis!  according to the Quran, God sent down Jesus to confirm the teachings of the Torah...so Jesus is your prophet

Jesus said that he was sent ONLY to the children of Israel. That means he wasn't the prophet sent to the Ishmaelites.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus said that he was sent ONLY to the children of Israel. That means he wasn't the prophet sent to the Ishmaelites.

Surah 19:21

21. He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah).' "

Are you sure Jesus was sent ONLY to the children of Israel? Allah appointed Jesus as a sign to mankind so he was the prophet sent to the Ishmaelites but they recognise the wrong one

[Ali Imran]

Surah 19:21

21. He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah).' "

Are you sure Jesus was sent ONLY to the children of Israel? Allah appointed Jesus as a sign to mankind so he was the prophet sent to the Ishmaelites but they recognise the wrong one

Did Jesus said he was sent only to the children of Israel?

[pinkpanther]

Did Jesus said he was sent only to the children of Israel?

He also said to make disciples of all nations..

[Lukongsimi]

So, whenever I disagree and argues against the Bible, it is an insult to you.

Ok noted. I didn't know you have a glass faith.

Do u need to call me ill mannered?
When angry with my answers 
Shows u can’t take the heat 
How many times u lost your temper 
Shows u r still behind us in debating 
U are lost and wandering in the darkness 
Angry at every corners u bump into 
Cannot take it don’t answer me

[Ali Imran]

He also said to make disciples of all nations..

So he contradicted himself?

Can't be, right?

[Lukongsimi]

Did Jesus said he was sent only to the children of Israel?

Did Jesus said he will send muh for the children of ishamel?
To make the nation great can be birth rates increases

[Lukongsimi]

Of course Christians will not accept it. If they do, they would be Muslims.

Nonetheless, you cannot deny that it is about a prophet sent to the people of Kedar.

Of course Muslims cannot accept it if they do they are Christians
No
Matter how hard u fight u r still behind us yelling and screaming give way giveway!
Ill mannered Moslem can’t be blamed u r brought up that way

[pinkpanther]

So he contradicted himself?

Can't be, right?

His initial focus was on Israel  but his mission extends to all nations.

Jesus came for all people.

God sent Jesus to earth to die for the sins of everyone (Luke 4:14-21)

[Lukongsimi]

So he contradicted himself?

Can't be, right?

Ill mannered moslem!

[Ali Imran]

God sent Jesus to earth to die for the sins of everyone (Luke 4:14-21)

Jesus didn't say that.

[Ali Imran]

His initial focus was on Israel  but his mission extends to all nations.

Jesus came for all people.

He said he was sent only to the children of Israel. He didn't say "initially".

Someone made that falsehood, apparently.

[pinkpanther]

Did Jesus said he will send muh for the children of ishamel?
To make the nation great can be birth rates increases

Yes..making the nation great can be an increase in birth rates...

[Ali Imran]

Yes..making the nation great can be an increase in birth rates...

So, God would make the descendants of Ishmael numerous for hell?

Is that what you think God meant when he said "a great nation"?

[pinkpanther]

He said he was sent only to the children of Israel. He didn't say "initially".

Someone made that falsehood, apparently.

Remember Jesus said he was sent for the lost sheep of Israel, then he also mentioned of having "other sheep, not of this fold,"

[Lukongsimi]

You've heard it being said that God will make the Ishmaelites a great nation. The Kedars are Ishmaelites. 

Have you heard of any prophet sent by God to the Kedars to make them a great nation?

Ill mannered Moslem 
Great can be in many ways 
Birth rates increases rapidly 
And are born Muslim

[Ali Imran]

Remember Jesus said he was sent for the lost sheep of Israel, then he also mentioned of having "other sheep, not of this fold,"

That is making it even narrower, only the lost sheep among the children of Israel.

[Lukongsimi]

So, God would make the descendants of Ishmael numerous for hell?

Is that what you think God meant when he said "a great nation"?

Ill mannered Moslem
The Saviour Jesus is at the door knocking and u rejected him 
Only opting for 72 unbelievable v?

[pinkpanther]

So, God would make the descendants of Ishmael numerous for hell?

Is that what you think God meant when he said "a great nation"?

 maybe that promise is no longer valid because it has been fulfilled...

[Lukongsimi]

That is making it even narrower, only the lost sheep among the children of Israel.

Ill mannered Moslem 
With Christ nothing is impossible

[Lukongsimi]

Yes..making the nation great can be an increase in birth rates...

Yea the moslems have the largest family 
4 wives leh if they can afford

[pinkpanther]

That is making it even narrower, only the lost sheep among the children of Israel.

When Jesus refer to the other sheeps he means the Gentiles, people who were not Jewish....so here you go, clear indication that He wasn't sent only for Israel

[Ali Imran]

 maybe that promise is no longer valid because it has been fulfilled...

God says the descendants of Ishmael will be numerous, and God will make them a great nation. 

That means a great nation is not about being numerous.

[Ali Imran]

When Jesus refer to the other sheeps he means the Gentiles, people who were not Jewish....so here you go, clear indication that He wasn't sent only for Israel

So Jesus wasn't telling the truth when he said he was sent ONLY to the Israelites?