Scripture readings for Christmas

Christians generally believe that God inspired John to write the book of Revelation. This belief is based on the text itself, where John states that he received visions and messages from God and Jesus, which he was instructed to record. The book is seen as a divine revelation, with God using John as a human instrument to communicate his message

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 06:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  God favored people? LOL 

See? That's why I say you are justifying the genocide. You even say the people who are committing genocide are God's favored people, putting them on a pedestal. You look up to the people who are murderers.

Btw, what would Jesus pbuh do to them when he returns? Have you read Revelation?

I never put them on the pedestal...your Allah favored them...did He endorse the genocide? Big Grin

Q2:122
O Children of Israel! Remember My favours upon you and how I honoured you above the others.
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(Yesterday, 04:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I never put them on the pedestal...your Allah favored them...did He endorse the genocide? Big Grin

Q2:122
O Children of Israel! Remember My favours upon you and how I honoured you above the others.

The genocide was endorsed in the Bible. 

And no, the zionist Jews in Israel today are not the children of Israel.
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(Yesterday, 03:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Because of Saul’s failure to wipe out the Amalekites, they continued to harass and plunder the Israelites over hundreds of years..

Where did you get that from?

And what about the infants? Were they also responsible for the alleged crime as well?
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(Yesterday, 03:19 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why the two sons Cain and Abel  one was banished
One was killed by his brother Cain?

I'm talking about Adam's sin. Did they inherit their father's sin as you believe?
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(Yesterday, 03:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Which moslem scholars exegesis best represent Muhammad? Big Grin

So we can all agree that no one knows exactly what Muhammad is saying...if no one knows then the Quran cannot be God's words..thank you  Laughing

All of them.
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(Yesterday, 04:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Christians generally believe that God inspired John to write the book of Revelation. This belief is based on the text itself, where John states that he received visions and messages from God and Jesus, which he was instructed to record. The book is seen as a divine revelation, with God using John as a human instrument to communicate his message

We are talking about the 4 Gospels, aren't we?
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(Yesterday, 04:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The genocide was endorsed in the Bible. 

And no, the zionist Jews in Israel today are not the children of Israel.

Is the current genocide endorsed by Allah? Big Grin
The PM claims to be the children of Israel
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(Yesterday, 05:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  All of them.

Can Ibn Kathir disagree with Al-Tabari on the interpretations of the Quran? Big Grin 
Only Muhammad understand the words of God but we do not have his interpretations now... Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 05:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Where did you get that from?

And what about the infants? Were they also responsible for the alleged crime as well?

1 Samuel 15:8

The Amalekites didnt spare the women and children of the Israelites
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Is the current genocide endorsed by Allah? Big Grin

Of course not.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  The PM claims to be the children of Israel

Do you believe him?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Can Ibn Kathir disagree with Al-Tabari on the interpretations of the Quran? Big Grin 
Only Muhammad understand the words of God but we do not have his interpretations now... Big Grin

Why do you like to mock?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Can Ibn Kathir disagree with Al-Tabari on the interpretations of the Quran? Big Grin 

Yes they can.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Only Muhammad understand the words of God but we do not have his interpretations now... Big Grin

Who told you that?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  1 Samuel 15:8

The Amalekites didnt spare the women and children of the Israelites

That verse didn't say what you're saying.

 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  That verse didn't say what you're saying.

 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.

He spared the king so the Amalekites was not totally destroyed because David had to deal with them in another battle
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that?

Only Muhammad knows best what the verses mean!
You mean Jibril only teach Muhammad to remember and parrot the verses but Jibril didnt teach him the complete meaning of the verses?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  He spared the king so the Amalekites was not totally destroyed because David had to deal with them in another battle

So, God punished the descendants of the Amaleks who fought with the Israelites. 

The question I asked is: were the descendants responsible for the crime their forefathers committed many centuries ago?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you believe him?

He is in charge of God's beloved nation...do you believe him? Big Grin
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Only Muhammad knows best what the verses mean!
You mean Jibril only teach Muhammad to remember and parrot the verses but Jibril didnt teach him the complete meaning of the verses?

You said we do not have the exegesis of the Quran by our prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم.

Who told you that?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is in charge of God's beloved nation...do you believe him? Big Grin

Of course I don't believe him. He is a known liar. 

Do you believe him when he said he is the descendant of Prophet Jacob pbuh?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, God punished the descendants of the Amaleks who fought with the Israelites. 

The question I asked is: were the descendants responsible for the crime their forefathers committed many centuries ago?

No...there was no mention of their descendants...
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Of course I don't believe him. He is a known liar. 

Do you believe him when he said he is the descendant of Prophet Jacob pbuh?

I think I heard that the lineage can be found in the tombstones and his ancestors have this lineage engraved on their tombs
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  You said we do not have the exegesis of the Quran by our prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم.

Who told you that?

If you have the exegesis of the Quran by Muhammad..then there is no need for so many scholars to interpret the Quran
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  No...there was no mention of their descendants...

At least 4 centuries later were the genocide of the Amaleks was commanded. Most likely, the Amaleks were the descendants.

Even so, what about the infants? Were they guilty of what their forefathers did?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  If you have the exegesis of the Quran by Muhammad..then there is no need for so many scholars to interpret the Quran

We do have the exegesis of the Quran by our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, albeit not the complete Quran.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  I think I heard that the lineage can be found in the tombstones and his ancestors have this lineage engraved on their tombs

It'd be nice if you have any proof to show me.
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(Yesterday, 05:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm talking about Adam's sin. Did they inherit their father's sin as you believe?

All including u inherit the sin of Adam the original sin lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (for until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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