Scripture readings for Christmas

(Yesterday, 07:10 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  u are ill mannered when lost to arguments 
the words of God is in the bible not in your koran or hadith or from your grandpa 
get it?

You can keep on saying falsehoods. It will not make it true.

Bible scholars will not say the Bible is the word of God.
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(Yesterday, 06:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Of the Christians I've encountered there, one of them, is very knowledgeable. His nick is fsg316.

Other than that, most are clueless about Christianity and the Bible, like both of you.

The purpose of a debate is to challenge each other's beliefs and determine which one aligns more closely with the truth. What's the value of being knowledgeable if you can't identify the flaws in your opponent's faith? 

In Oyk's very earliest post, he mentioned that Zed Master represents the Islamic community in EDMW, but we can all agree now that your understanding of Islam is only somewhat inadequate.  Big Grin

Additionally, both you and Hope have differing interpretations of the Quran. Rotfl
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(Yesterday, 07:11 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm only telling you what you don't know.

You didn't know that the Trinity verse wasn't there originally, but added a few hundred years later, ergo a forgery. I was kind enough to tell you that. Instead of thanking me for telling you the truth, you got angry at me.

It is not a forgery...do you know why it is still included in the king James version?
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(Yesterday, 07:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The purpose of a debate is to challenge each other's beliefs and determine which one aligns more closely with the truth. What's the value of being knowledgeable if you can't identify the flaws in your opponent's faith? 

In Oyk's very earliest post, he mentioned that Zed Master represents the Islamic community in EDMW, but we can all agree now that your understanding of Islam is only somewhat inadequate.  Big Grin

Additionally, both you and Hope have differing interpretations of the Quran. Rotfl

call himself zed master so prideful not even a master but a liar Laughing

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 07:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You can keep on saying falsehoods. It will not make it true.

Bible scholars will not say the Bible is the word of God.

keep on lying  its your only solution to trick us

the thief came to steal kill and destroy

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 07:16 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is not a forgery...do you know why it is still included in the king James version?

Call it whatever you like. The original author of 1 John didn't write it. Someone else, a few hundred years later, added that verse.

If the Trinity verse was there from the very beginning, there would not be any need for the numerous ecumenical councils over a few hundred years to finally agree on the Trinity.
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(Yesterday, 07:16 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  call himself zed master so prideful not even a master but a liar Laughing

Rotfl   Here he will learn more about his faith...he must thanks us
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(Yesterday, 07:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The purpose of a debate is to challenge each other's beliefs and determine which one aligns more closely with the truth. What's the value of being knowledgeable if you can't identify the flaws in your opponent's faith? 

In Oyk's very earliest post, he mentioned that Zed Master represents the Islamic community in EDMW, but we can all agree now that your understanding of Islam is only somewhat inadequate.  Big Grin

Additionally, both you and Hope have differing interpretations of the Quran. Rotfl

So says the one who doesn't even know that it wasn't the words of Paul.

And you're so arrogant to think you know better about Islam than all the Muslims.
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(Yesterday, 07:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl   Here he will learn more about his faith...he must thanks us

yes he is learning but shy to admit it

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 07:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Call it whatever you like. The original author of 1 John didn't write it. Someone else, a few hundred years later, added that verse.

If the Trinity verse was there from the very beginning, there would not be any need for the numerous ecumenical councils over a few hundred years to finally agree on the Trinity.

If someone added it...does that mean he is falsifying the texts? The abundance of manuscripts supported the verse...whether it was taken out or a footnote was inserted shows you that we are transparent...we could have just leave the Trinity verses as it is
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(Yesterday, 07:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  pachik angry why
because he was born into the wrong path
condemns the bible to make  himself happy
still got time to repent no worry lmao!

I'm only telling you what you don't know.

You didn't know that the Trinity verse wasn't there originally, but added a few hundred years later, ergo a forgery. I was kind enough to tell you that. Instead of thanking me for telling you the truth, you got angry at me.
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(Yesterday, 07:11 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm only telling you what you don't know.

You didn't know that the Trinity verse wasn't there originally, but added a few hundred years later, ergo a forgery. I was kind enough to tell you that. Ins 
dont lie again lah
nothing is wrong with the bible its your brain something wrong

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 07:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If someone added it...does that mean he is falsifying the texts? The abundance of manuscripts supported the verse...whether it was taken out or a footnote was inserted shows you that we are transparent...we could have just leave the Trinity verses as it is

It means someone forged a verse to make it look like the author wrote it when the author didn't. But you don't like to call it a forgery, and I can understand why.
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(Yesterday, 07:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So says the one who doesn't even know that it wasn't the words of Paul.

And you're so arrogant to think you know better about Islam than all the Muslims.

The Quran paraphrased it from the Bible....that is the main point Big Grin

I never claim to say I know Islam ..how can ever know the words of God when there are so many interpretations... Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 07:26 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  dont lie again lah
nothing is wrong with the bible its your brain something wrong

Which Bible? The KJV? The NIV? The NASB?

Do you know that the Trinity verse wasn't the only one removed? There are others.
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(Yesterday, 07:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I never claim to say I know Islam ..how can ever know the words of God when there are so many interpretations... Big Grin

Muslims know what we need to know. Allah made sure of that.

And yes, you claimed all the Muslims got it wrong, and you are right. That was some time ago.
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(Yesterday, 07:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It means someone forged a verse to make it look like the author wrote it when the author didn't. But you don't like to call it a forgery, and I can understand why.

Footnote clarified matters..
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(Yesterday, 07:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Muslims know what we need to know. Allah made sure of that.

And yes, you claimed all the Muslims got it wrong, and you are right. That was some time ago.

How did Allah make sure what you need to know when you don have the commentary of Muhammad...to me it is equivalent to a lost book ..without Muhammad's interpretations..it is like a person who has lost his soul
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(Yesterday, 07:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How did Allah make sure what you need to know when you don have the commentary of Muhammad...to me it is equivalent to a lost book ..without Muhammad's interpretations..it is like a person who has lost his soul

When Allah says Allah is one, we all understand it. 

When Allah says He begets not nor is He begotten, we all understand it.

And why are you so arrogant to say we don't have the comments of our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم on the Quran?
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(Yesterday, 07:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Footnote clarified matters..

Show me how the footnote made what I've said false.
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(Yesterday, 07:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How did Allah make sure what you need to know when you don have the commentary of Muhammad...to me it is equivalent to a lost book ..without Muhammad's interpretations..it is like a person who has lost his soul

Muslims call Allah and Christians call the Lord lah! Big Grin Jews call Jehovah lah! Buddhists and Taoists call what leh? Thinking
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(Yesterday, 07:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When Allah says Allah is one, we all understand it. 

When Allah says He begets not nor is He begotten, we all understand it.

And why are you so arrogant to say we don't have the comments of our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم on the Quran?

Oh if you have the commentary of your prophet then there is no need for other scholars to add in their own interpretations isnt it...are they inspired by Allah? If they are inspired...why do they hold different views..

When Allah says He is one...that does not need any commentary..it is clear..Did Muhammad in the Shahada or in his prayers send blessings to himself? Big Grin  maybe you can explain Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 07:43 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Muslims call Allah and Christians call the Lord lah! Big Grin Jews call Jehovah lah! Buddhists and Taoists call what leh? Thinking

上帝 lah
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(Yesterday, 07:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Show me how the footnote made what I've said false.

You can google image, footnote 1 John 5-7
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(Yesterday, 07:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Show me how the footnote made what I've said false.

the hadith (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad) are essential for understanding and applying the Quran's teachings in daily life...

We do not believe the Hadiths because it came 300 years after the death of Muhammad and there are many fake Hadiths around....it is corrupted...so you cannot understand the Quran without an uncorrupted Hadith..

Muhammad says not to believe in any books that are altered lol
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(Yesterday, 07:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You can keep on saying falsehoods. It will not make it true.

Bible scholars will not say the Bible is the word of God.
Silly lau eng kor!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 07:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Show me how the footnote made what I've said false.
U want proof but u can’t provide it

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 09:06 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Silly lau eng kor!

You already showed him that the Bible is uncorrupted from Bible scholars and moslem Scholars but he can simply forget!
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Lau eng kor
Boring in malang
Talk to vol no reply
Come here to bully people called himself zedmaster 
Lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 09:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You already showed him that the Bible is uncorrupted from Bible scholars and moslem Scholars but he can simply forget!

He won’t accept the truth lah 
Laughing

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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