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(12-07-2025, 04:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do you know which religion the sons of Ishmael follow?
I don know? Can you tell me from the verse?
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(12-07-2025, 04:11 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You think you know better than other people like policy makers, civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, etc.
Such arrogance is without comparison.
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If you trust minority as your guide then you are foolish...last time you argued that less than 2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly and you can't even prove it using pew research....
Even Lksm proved to you how foolish you look when you stick to nothing as back up!
Lksm provided some stats
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(12-07-2025, 04:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Which side will Jesus kill on his return?
The punishment is on both the jews and moslems
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(12-07-2025, 04:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: It tells me that they are going against God's will.
Oh ..God brought them back to go against Him once again

..so that they can make a fool out of Him?
Are you even thinking properly?
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(12-07-2025, 04:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The punishment is on both the jews and moslems
You didn't answer the question. Which side will Jesus kill on his return according to the NT?
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(12-07-2025, 04:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You didn't answer the question. Which side will Jesus kill on his return according to the NT?
The lawless ones
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(12-07-2025, 04:26 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Oh ..God brought them back to go against Him once again
..so that they can make a fool out of Him?
Are you even thinking properly?
I suppose God gathers them in one place to make it easier for Jesus to kill them all.
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(12-07-2025, 04:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The lawless ones
Did the NT say that?
Or are you doing what LKSM calls "elak"?
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(12-07-2025, 04:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You didn't answer the question. Which side will Jesus kill on his return according to the NT?
You don believe the Torah tiok boh?
Most likely Jesus will likely kill you
CJB
Then the one
who embodies separation from Torah will be revealed, the one whom the Lord Yeshua will slay with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the glory of his coming.
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(12-07-2025, 04:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: If you trust minority as your guide then you are foolish...last time you argued that less than 2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly and you can't even prove it using pew research....
Even Lksm proved to you how foolish you look when you stick to nothing as back up!
Lksm provided some stats
Learned people use Pew Research, and I suppose they are a minority compared to common folks.
Pew Research has data that shows Muslims are the least in numbers leaving their faith.
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(12-07-2025, 04:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You don believe the Torah tiok boh?
Most likely Jesus will likely kill you 
CJB
Then the one who embodies separation from Torah will be revealed, the one whom the Lord Yeshua will slay with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the glory of his coming.
I'm asking you. You believe the NT is divine. So tell me. Which side will Jesus kill on his return?
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(12-07-2025, 04:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Learned people use Pew Research, and I suppose they are a minority compared to common folks.
Pew Research has data that shows Muslims are the least in numbers leaving their faith.

if you want to trust them by all means...they can't even give you a figure!
Moslems are unlikely to leave islam because of persecution ....who doesnt know
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(12-07-2025, 04:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I'm asking you. You believe the NT is divine. So tell me. Which side will Jesus kill on his return?
He will not be killing all non-believers, but rather those who oppose him and his Father, God, particularly the Antichrist and his forces.
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(12-07-2025, 04:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: He will not be killing all non-believers, but rather those who oppose him and his Father, God, particularly the Antichrist and his forces.
Those who opposed him, meaning those who rejected him as their Messiah, correct?
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(12-07-2025, 04:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Learned people use Pew Research, and I suppose they are a minority compared to common folks.
Pew Research has data that shows Muslims are the least in numbers leaving their faith.
You are definitely not one of those learned ones....

...infact your maths is weak
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(12-07-2025, 04:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:
if you want to trust them by all means...they can't even give you a figure!
Moslems are unlikely to leave islam because of persecution ....who doesnt know
Earlier you said "2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly" but now suddenly changed and say Muslims are unlikely to leave Islam.
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(12-07-2025, 04:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You are definitely not one of those learned ones....
...infact your maths is weak
I know Paul was quoting the OT.
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(12-07-2025, 04:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Those who opposed him, meaning those who rejected him as their Messiah, correct?
Most importantly Jesus will judge those who have rejected God and his teachings....
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(12-07-2025, 04:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Most importantly Jesus will judge those who have rejected God and his teachings....
We're talking about who Jesus will kill on his return.
Can we agree that Jesus will kill his enemies aka those who reject him as the Messiah?
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(12-07-2025, 04:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: We're talking about who Jesus will kill on his return.
Can we agree that Jesus will kill his enemies aka those who reject him as the Messiah?
No..the Bible did not mention that
In the Book of Romans, particularly Romans 11, suggest that a future salvation event will involve a believing Jewish remnant being rescued during the end times.
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(12-07-2025, 04:38 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I suppose God gathers them in one place to make it easier for Jesus to kill them all.
Where did it says in the Bible that Jesus will destroy the Jews?
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(12-07-2025, 04:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: No..the Bible did not mention that
In the Book of Romans, particularly Romans 11, suggest that a future salvation event will involve a believing Jewish remnant being rescued during the end times.
Have you read Luke 19 and Revelation?
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(12-07-2025, 04:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Earlier you said "2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly" but now suddenly changed and say Muslims are unlikely to leave Islam.
The ones unlikely to leave are bound by their own Sharia and the moslems bound by western secular laws can leave anytime
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(12-07-2025, 05:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The ones unlikely to leave are bound by their own Sharia and the moslems bound by western secular laws can leave anytime
Yeah.. wriggle your way out of your own folly.
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(12-07-2025, 05:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Have you read Luke 19 and Revelation?
No, neither Luke 19 nor Revelation state that Jesus will kill all Jews who reject him as the Messiah.
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(12-07-2025, 05:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: No, neither Luke 19 nor Revelation state that Jesus will kill all Jews who reject him as the Messiah.
Of course not all. Some will change their faith and accept him.
So, of the 2 sides, which side rejects him as their Messiah?
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(12-07-2025, 05:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yeah.. wriggle your way out of your own folly.
That is the truth...13 countries maintain the death penalty for apostasy (leaving Islam)
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(12-07-2025, 05:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: That is the truth...13 countries maintain the death penalty for apostasy (leaving Islam)
Ok. So the "2 millions moslems left islam
world wide yearly", not true?
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(12-07-2025, 05:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Of course not all. Some will change their faith and accept him.
So, of the 2 sides, which side rejects him as their Messiah?
Jewish people do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, but both Moslems and Jews do not recognize Him as the path to salvation....
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(12-07-2025, 05:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Ok. So the "2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly", not true?
Why is it not true... Indonesia alone contributed 2 millions moslems leaving annually...you haven't include the rest of the world