[pinkpanther]

Ok. So the "2 millions moslems left islam world wide yearly", not true?

https://youtube.com/shorts/FuieQGSILMs?s...SR7ZQyflOe

[Ali Imran]

Jewish people do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, but both Moslems and Jews do not recognize Him as the path to salvation....

Did Jesus say they are his enemies because they reject him as their Messiah or because they don't recognize him as the path to salvation?

[Ali Imran]

Why is it not true... Indonesia alone contributed 2 millions moslems leaving annually...you haven't include the rest of the world

According to Pew Research, which is trusted by think-tanks, Indonesia is not seeing any switching of religions among the Muslims. Who do we trust? Pew Research with data or some random youtuber?

[pinkpanther]

Did Jesus say they are his enemies because they reject him as their Messiah or because they don't recognize him as the path to salvation?

Jesus did not explicitly say they are his enemies because they reject Him as their Messiah

[Ali Imran]

Jesus did not explicitly say they are his enemies because they reject Him as their Messiah

You haven't read Luke 19?

Go read, then come back here and see if you will say that again.

[pinkpanther]

According to Pew Research, which is trusted by think-tanks, Indonesia is not seeing any switching of religions among the Muslims. Who do we trust? Pew Research with data or some random youtuber?

I choose to believe in the dude who dares to show his face and talks about a book titled "2 millions moslems leave Islam"

You can choose to believe in a selected few countries without any real numbers..just some variations in percentages!!

Do you know 1.49% is written as 1% because it is closer to 1%? That lost of 0.49% can add up to a significant number of moslems

[pinkpanther]

You haven't read Luke 19?

Go read, then come back here and see if you will say that again.

I know lah .the parable of those who rejected him...you moslems also rejected Him...

[Ali Imran]

I choose to believe in the dude who dares to show his face and talks about a book titled "2 millions moslems leave Islam"

You can choose to believe in a selected few countries without any real numbers..just some variations in percentages!!

Do you know 1.49% is written as 1% because it is closer to 1%? That lost of 0.49% can add up to a significant number of moslems

Yes, of course you would support that random guy, even though he has no real data to back up his claim.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, of course you would support that random guy, even though he has no real data to back up his claim.

His works are more extensive than those pew research...who says he doesnt have stats..he checked with churches and government bodies..to help him to conclude...

[Ali Imran]

I know lah .the parable of those who rejected him...you moslems also rejected Him...

So, Luke 19 records Jesus saying, "those enemies of mine who don't want me to be king over them", which refers to one side. The other side will gladly receive him.

And you said what? No difference?

[Ali Imran]

His works are more extensive than those pew research...who says he doesnt have stats..he checked with churches and government bodies..to help him to conclude...

Would you know if he lied in order to sell his book?

Have you read his book?

[pinkpanther]

Yes, of course you would support that random guy, even though he has no real data to back up his claim.

You look at the face of that dude and you tell me if he is lying?

If he indeed is lying then blame Islam..  look at that beard!! Confirm moslem

[pinkpanther]

Would you know if he lied in order to sell his book?

Have you read his book?

Well if he is indeed selling...he can make some money thru online purchasing but he didnt even attempt to promote his book in the video

If you want to sell something like Ali Dawah usually does with his praying mat...you will promote it constantly

[pinkpanther]

So, Luke 19 records Jesus saying, "those enemies of mine who don't want me to be king over them", which refers to one side. The other side will gladly receive him.

And you said what? No difference?

Anything to do with messiah being the criteria? Both sides reject His teachings

[Ali Imran]

Anything to do with messiah being the criteria? Both sides reject His teachings

The Messiah is the king. One side refused to accept Jesus as the Messiah.

You don't believe Luke 19:27?

[Ali Imran]

Well if he is indeed selling...he can make some money thru online purchasing but he didnt even attempt to promote his book in the video

If you want to sell something like Ali Dawah usually does with his praying mat...you will promote it constantly

He made that video because he was questioned by some of his readers who doubted his numbers, evidently because he didn't back it up with data.

But go ahead and believe what you like.

[Ali Imran]

You look at the face of that dude and you tell me if he is lying?

If he indeed is lying then blame Islam..  look at that beard!! Confirm moslem

I don't know if he is lying. I'm just saying he has nothing to back up his claim.

[pinkpanther]

He made that video because he was questioned by some of his readers who doubted his numbers, evidently because he didn't back it up with data.

But go ahead and believe what you like.

What is 1-3 millions ex moslems a year in a country of 280 millions..

[pinkpanther]

I don't know if he is lying. I'm just saying he has nothing to back up his claim.

So reports from pew research is accurate? I don believe in percentages without a decimal! Like I said 0.49% in a country like Indonesia can work out to be in the millions..if it is 0, then the whole report is false

[Ali Imran]

So reports from pew research is accurate? I don believe in percentages without a decimal! Like I said 0.49 in a country like Indonesia can work out to be in the millions

Pew Research is trusted by civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think tanks. 

Feel free to distrust them.

[pinkpanther]

Pew Research is trusted by civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think tanks. 

Feel free to distrust them.

How to trust if they only give you percentages but not figures...it would be more trustworthy with real percentages eg.  1.67, 1.86 ...they round everything to a single digit...this is what I call a half baked effort

[pinkpanther]

Pew Research is trusted by civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think tanks. 

Feel free to distrust them.

When it shows 0 it does not mean no moslems left islam!! Because the real percentage 0.46% for eg is closer to 0 than to 1%

[Ali Imran]

When it shows 0 it does not mean no moslems left islam!! Because the real percentage 0.46% for eg is closer to 0 than to 1%

And you think the civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think-tanks don't know that?

[pinkpanther]

And you think the civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think-tanks don't know that?

It is your choice to believe in inaccurate data...that data does not give you a figure!! I am interested in figure not percentages rounded off closest to the next figure

[Ali Imran]

It is your choice to believe in inaccurate data...that data does not give you a figure!! I am interested in figure not percentages rounded off closest to the next figure

Yup, its my choice, as well as the choice of civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think-tanks. 

Feel free to think your choice is better than those people.

[pinkpanther]

I know Paul was quoting the OT.

I know Allah was quoting both Paul and Isaiah 

[pinkpanther]

Yup, its my choice, as well as the choice of civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, and think-tanks. 

Feel free to think your choice is better than those people.

Feel free to believe in percentages that doesn't tell you the whole figures

[pinkpanther]

According to Pew Research, which is trusted by think-tanks, Indonesia is not seeing any switching of religions among the Muslims. Who do we trust? Pew Research with data or some random youtuber?

Let's look at your statistics to support my argument! This situation is becoming absurd. Approximately 3% of the Moslem population has left Islam in Turkey...

 Turkey has a population of about 85 million, with roughly 99% identifying as Moslem. If we exclude that 3%, it means around 2.5 million people in Turkey alone have left Islam. To be conservative and for simplicity just for you, let's estimate it at 1 million.

 And remember, that's just in Turkey! Think about the rest of the world...it's clear you don't need much calculation to see the bigger picture.

I haven't include the 1% of moslems who have left Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria and Singapore

[pinkpanther]

According to Pew Research, which is trusted by think-tanks, Indonesia is not seeing any switching of religions among the Muslims. Who do we trust? Pew Research with data or some random youtuber?

You know why you cannot trust this stats?
You take a look at turkey 98% moslems 3% left! current moslems 95% ...this is a true reflection base on easy Math..

Now look at Malaysia ..74% moslems 2% moslems added...current moslems 75%  error in math?
You take a look at israel...same thing! Reporting error!

And you take pride in believing these stats with errors?

Mashallah!

[pinkpanther]

According to Pew Research, which is trusted by think-tanks, Indonesia is not seeing any switching of religions among the Muslims. Who do we trust? Pew Research with data or some random youtuber?

This pew research just proved to you that more people are leaving islam  Total 8% have left islam..only 6% are added to Islam...

Now do you realise your foolishness? Next time pls pay attention in class... statistics is never your strong point ...thank you for burying yourself today