[Ali Imran]

Mark 7:19, "Thus he declared all foods clean,"

So you believe Jesus abolished the law on pork.

How come Jesus said he didn't abolish it?

Why the contradiction?

[Ali Imran]

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” - Mark 12

Why did Matthew omit the Shema?

[pinkpanther]

If you don't have faith, no point in talking about the law. 

Yes, Halakhah is the Mosaic law. Jesus told his followers that if they want salvation, they must keep that law. You believe otherwise, that the law is optional. 

Muhammad's teaching is the same as Jesus's, albeit with a different set of laws. Obedience to the respective law is a must.

Hello...if we follow the mosaic law completely ...we might as well be called the jews...then you will have more jews fighting your brothers in Palestine 

[pinkpanther]

So you believe Jesus abolished the law on pork.

How come Jesus said he didn't abolish it?

Why the contradiction?

Jesus fulfilled that law...and under a new convenant 
 we believe that salvation is achieved through faith in Jesus Christ, not by adhering to specific food restrictions...

[pinkpanther]

Trying hard to change the topic huh?

That is the true assessment of a great nation!
This great nation might be under a curse according to Mahdi Abdullah   No wonder Allah is making them cowards....

[pinkpanther]

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” - Mark 12

Why did Matthew omit the Shema?

The core message can be found in his book...why need to declare exactly the same as Mark and luke

[Lukongsimi]

The core message can be found in his book...why need to declare exactly the same as Mark and luke

He acts like a spoilt kid 
He expects every author to display same item although it’s there in the book.
Or he will cry after us demanding for the answer!
As if he is the judge!
If his Koran is true,holy , protected n preserved why the sheep ate it?

[Lukongsimi]

Mosaic Law, also known as the Law of Moses, refers to the body of laws and instructions given to the Israelites by God through Moses, primarily found in the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, known as the Torah. These laws encompass a wide range of topics, including religious observances, ethical conduct, and social justice, forming a foundational framework for Jewish life and belief. 

Here's a more detailed look:
1. The Torah: The core of Mosaic Law is the Torah, also known as the Pentateuch, consisting of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. 

2. The Ten Commandments: A central part of the Mosaic Law, these ten rules, received by Moses on Mount Sinai, outline fundamental religious and moral obligations.
3. Religious Observances: The Torah includes detailed instructions on various religious practices, such as sacrifices, festivals, dietary laws (kashrut), and the Sabbath.
4. Ethical and Social Laws: Mosaic Law also emphasizes ethical behavior, justice, and social responsibility, including laws regarding honesty, compassion, and care for the poor and vulnerable.
5. Divine Covenant: The Mosaic Law is understood as part of a covenant between God and the Israelites, outlining the terms of their relationship and responsibilities. 

[Lukongsimi]

“But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, you should at least believe my deeds, in order that you may know once and for all that the Father is in me and that I am in the Father.””
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭38‬ ‭GNT

[Lukongsimi]

In John 8:23, Jesus states, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world," according to the Bible Gateway and Bible Hub. This highlights a distinction between Jesus' origin and that of his listeners, implying a divine origin for himself and a worldly origin for them.
Jesus' statement in John 8:23 is a powerful declaration of his unique identity and purpose. Here's a breakdown of what it means:
"You are from below; I am from above."
This signifies that Jesus is not of the same origin as those he is speaking to. It suggests a heavenly, divine origin for Jesus, while those he addresses are of earthly origins.
"You are of this world; I am not of this world."
This further emphasizes the distinction. It indicates that Jesus' nature and purpose transcend the limitations and concerns of the earthly realm.
This passage is often interpreted in the context of Jesus' role as the Son of God and his mission to reveal God's truth and offer salvation. It also connects to other verses where Jesus speaks of his pre-existence and his return to the Father after his earthly ministry.

[Ali Imran]

Jesus fulfilled that law...and under a new convenant 
 we believe that salvation is achieved through faith in Jesus Christ, not by adhering to specific food restrictions...

Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law.

But you believe Jesus did abolish the law.

Ok. Up to you.

[Ali Imran]

The core message can be found in his book...why need to declare exactly the same as Mark and luke

That is the core message, the Shema. Jesus said it is foremost of all the commandments.

Why did Matthew remove the core message?

[Ali Imran]

Hello...if we follow the mosaic law completely ...we might as well be called the jews...then you will have more jews fighting your brothers in Palestine 

If you are a follower of Jesus, you should be following the religion practiced by Jesus, aka Judaism. You don't have to change your race, though.

If you are a follower of Paul, then you can call yourself whatever you like because there is no law.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law.

But you believe Jesus did abolish the law.

Ok. Up to you.

No..other Christians can stick to the dietary law if they wish to....

[Ali Imran]

No..other Christians can stick to the dietary law if they wish to....

Jesus said the law is mandatory.

But you're saying the law is optional.

[pinkpanther]

That is the core message, the Shema. Jesus said it is foremost of all the commandments.

Why did Matthew remove the core message?

Where did you learn to spread anti Christ propaganda 

Matthew 22:37-40:
Jesus is asked which is the greatest commandment. He responds with the same two commandments, emphasizing that all the Law and the Prophets depend on them.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus said the law is mandatory.

But you're saying the law is optional.

Show me the verse!

Jesus does not say the Old Testament law is mandatory in its entirety for Christians.

[Ali Imran]

Where did you learn to spread anti Christ propaganda 

Matthew 22:37-40:
Jesus is asked which is the greatest commandment. He responds with the same two commandments, emphasizing that all the Law and the Prophets depend on them.

Mark 12.

Jesus was asked which was the greatest commandment. His answer is:

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

Why did Matthew omit the Shema?

[pinkpanther]

If you are a follower of Jesus, you should be following the religion practiced by Jesus, aka Judaism. You don't have to change your race, though.

If you are a follower of Paul, then you can call yourself whatever you like because there is no law.

  Jesus brought a new convenant....if I want to follow Judaism I might as well follow moses or be a Jew..you know how ridiculous you sound?

[pinkpanther]

Mark 12.

Jesus was asked which was the greatest commandment. His answer is:

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

Why did Matthew omit the Shema?

Matthew explains the shema...

[Ali Imran]

Show me the verse!

Jesus does not say the Old Testament law is mandatory in its entirety for Christians.

If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments. - Matthew 19

That emphasizes the importance of obedience to God's commandments as a path to eternal life.

[Ali Imran]

Matthew explains the shema...

Matthew removed the most important part of Jesus's answer.

That's not the only case. There are plenty more where Matthew changed or removed what Jesus said as recorded in Mark.

[Ali Imran]

  Jesus brought a new convenant....if I want to follow Judaism I might as well follow moses or be a Jew..you know how ridiculous you sound?

Did Jesus instruct his followers to follow the law of Moses? Yes, he did, clearly.

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them

Are you a follower of Jesus or Paul? If you are a follower of Paul, then yes, you don't need to follow what Jesus said.

[pinkpanther]

If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments. - Matthew 19

That emphasizes the importance of obedience to God's commandments as a path to eternal life.

You don even fully understand the whole context and thank you for bringing up because you just proved that Paul's teachings line up with Jesus's own

In telling the young man to keep the commandments, Jesus was not saying that he could be saved by obeying the commandments; rather, Jesus was emphasizing the Law as God’s perfect standard. If you can keep the Law perfectly, then you can escape sin’s penalty—but that’s a big if.

 When the man responded that he met the Law’s standard, Jesus simply touched on one issue that proved the man did not measure up to God’s holiness. The man was not willing to follow the Lord, if that meant he must give up his wealth. Thus, the man was breaking the two greatest commands; he did not love the Lord with all his heart, and he did not love his neighbor as himself. He loved himself (and his money) more. Far from keeping “all” the commandments, as he had claimed, the man was a sinner like everyone else. The Law proved it.

[pinkpanther]

Did Jesus instruct his followers to follow the law of Moses? Yes, he did, clearly.

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them

Are you a follower of Jesus or Paul? If you are a follower of Paul, then yes, you don't need to follow what Jesus said.

Like I said, we obeyed some that are important for our salvation...

[pinkpanther]

You don even fully understand the whole context and thank you for bringing up because you just proved that Paul's teachings line up with Jesus's own

In telling the young man to keep the commandments, Jesus was not saying that he could be saved by obeying the commandments; rather, Jesus was emphasizing the Law as God’s perfect standard. If you can keep the Law perfectly, then you can escape sin’s penalty—but that’s a big if.

 When the man responded that he met the Law’s standard, Jesus simply touched on one issue that proved the man did not measure up to God’s holiness. The man was not willing to follow the Lord, if that meant he must give up his wealth. Thus, the man was breaking the two greatest commands; he did not love the Lord with all his heart, and he did not love his neighbor as himself. He loved himself (and his money) more. Far from keeping “all” the commandments, as he had claimed, the man was a sinner like everyone else. The Law proved it.

I love cooking the moslem

[Ali Imran]

You don even fully understand the whole context and thank you for bringing up because you just proved that Paul's teachings line up with Jesus's own

In telling the young man to keep the commandments, Jesus was not saying that he could be saved by obeying the commandments; rather, Jesus was emphasizing the Law as God’s perfect standard. If you can keep the Law perfectly, then you can escape sin’s penalty—but that’s a big if.

 When the man responded that he met the Law’s standard, Jesus simply touched on one issue that proved the man did not measure up to God’s holiness. The man was not willing to follow the Lord, if that meant he must give up his wealth. Thus, the man was breaking the two greatest commands; he did not love the Lord with all his heart, and he did not love his neighbor as himself. He loved himself (and his money) more. Far from keeping “all” the commandments, as he had claimed, the man was a sinner like everyone else. The Law proved it.

So when Jesus said "you must be careful to do EVERYTHING they tell you", it doesn't mean everything?

[Ali Imran]

Like I said, we obeyed some that are important for our salvation...

So Jesus was wrong to say "do everything"?

[pinkpanther]

So Jesus was wrong to say "do everything"?

Like I said..We do not follow everything from Judaism , only the ones critical for our salvation..under a new convenant, we follow Jesus's teachings

[pinkpanther]

So when Jesus said "you must be careful to do EVERYTHING they tell you", it doesn't mean everything?

Jesus instructed his followers to uphold the Law of Moses, but not in a way that simply meant adhering to its literal rules. He emphasized that the Law should be understood and practiced in its true spirit, with an emphasis on love and compassion. Jesus himself affirmed that he came to fulfill, not abolish, the Law and the Prophets, and that even the smallest part of the Law would remain in effect until all was accomplished.