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Amazing testimony that lead many Iranians to Christ
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“Look! He is coming with the clouds. Everyone will see him, even the ones who stuck a sword through him. All people on earth will weep because of him. Yes, it will happen! Amen. The Lord God says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the one who is and was and is coming.
I am God All-Powerful!””
Revelation 1:7-8 CEV
Jesus says He is God hallelujah!
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“But Jesus kept quiet and did not say a word. The high priest asked him another question, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the glorious God?” “Yes, I am!” Jesus answered. “Soon you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right side of God All-Powerful, and coming with the clouds of heaven.””
Mark 14:61-62 CEV
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(17-07-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: We respect and follow Jesus's commandments..we are a grateful lot..we even follow the laws laid down by Moses even though some laws are seen as fulfilled or superseded by Jesus's teachings..
Do you eat pork? You said yes. So you didn't follow Jesus's commandments when he told his followers to obey the law.
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(17-07-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: we even follow the laws laid down by Moses even though some laws are seen as fulfilled or superseded by Jesus's teachings..
Didn't Jesus say that he will not abolish the law or the prophets?
But you're saying that Jesus did that. How come?
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(17-07-2025, 11:07 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do you eat pork? You said yes. So you didn't follow Jesus's commandments when he told his followers to obey the law.
Are you a Israelite? You also follow the Jewish law in certain ways sụch as not eating pork and circumcision...Allah is teaching you to be an israelite..lol
The dietary laws and circumcision, as given in the Law of Moses, were primarily intended for the Israelites and not for Gentiles. While Gentiles who chose to live among the Israelites were expected to adhere to the Law, it was not a requirement for salvation or inclusion in the covenant for those outside of Israel.
This understanding is supported by events like the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15, where it was decided that Gentiles did not need to be circumcised or keep the full Mosaic Law to be considered part of the Christian community.
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(17-07-2025, 11:27 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Are you a Israelite? You also follow the Jewish law in certain ways sụch as not eating pork and circumcision...Allah is teaching you to be an israelite..lol
The dietary laws and circumcision, as given in the Law of Moses, were primarily intended for the Israelites and not for Gentiles. While Gentiles who chose to live among the Israelites were expected to adhere to the Law, it was not a requirement for salvation or inclusion in the covenant for those outside of Israel.
This understanding is supported by events like the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15, where it was decided that Gentiles did not need to be circumcised or keep the full Mosaic Law to be considered part of the Christian community.
Did Jesus ever say Gentiles can eat pork or that Gentiles are exempted from the law of Moses?
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(17-07-2025, 11:07 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do you eat pork? You said yes. So you didn't follow Jesus's commandments when he told his followers to obey the law.
Remember we are a grateful lot...we still follow the 10 commandments from the OT , we keep the moral laws, they are also important to our salvation....do you follow them? No! Why?
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(17-07-2025, 11:31 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Remember we are a grateful lot...we still follow the 10 commandments from the OT , we keep the moral laws, they are also important to our salvation....do you follow them? No! Why?
Do you keep the Sabbath?
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(17-07-2025, 11:29 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Did Jesus ever say Gentiles can eat pork or that Gentiles are exempted from the law of Moses?
The law of Moses were for the Israelites ...you moslems got circumcised by mistake...are you a Jew?
In Judaism, circumcision, known as Brit Milah, is a commandment from God to Abraham, signifying a covenant with the Jewish people.
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(17-07-2025, 11:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The law of Moses were for the Israelites ...you moslems got circumcised by mistake...are you a Jew? 
In Judaism, circumcision, known as Brit Milah, is a commandment from God to Abraham, signifying a covenant with the Jewish people.
So Jesus didn't say the Gentiles are exempt from the law of Moses.
Who told you that the Gentiles are excused from the law of Moses?
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(17-07-2025, 11:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: In Judaism, circumcision, known as Brit Milah, is a commandment from God to Abraham, signifying a covenant with the Jewish people.
Is Ishmael the son of Abraham?
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(17-07-2025, 11:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do you keep the Sabbath?
The scriptures make it clear that, for the Christian, Sabbath keeping is a matter of spiritual freedom, not a command from God.
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(17-07-2025, 11:44 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The scriptures make it clear that, for the Christian, Sabbath keeping is a matter of spiritual freedom, not a command from God.
So you are not following the 10 commandments. Why do you earlier said you still follow the 10 commandments?
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(17-07-2025, 11:44 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is Ishmael the son of Abraham?
If he wants to do it ..no one is stopping him

Although Ishmael was circumcised, God clarified that the covenant promises would be fulfilled through Isaac, Abraham's son with Sarah, who was yet to be born.
So you moslems follow it not because God made a promise with you...lol
It should be optional for the moslems lol
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(17-07-2025, 11:46 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So you are not following the 10 commandments. Why do you earlier said you still follow the 10 commandments?
we follow the 10 commandments..it is important..do you follow? We believe in moral laws
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(17-07-2025, 11:57 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: we follow the 10 commandments..it is important..do you follow? We believe in moral laws
Do you keep the Sabbath?
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(17-07-2025, 11:48 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: If he wants to do it ..no one is stopping him 
Although Ishmael was circumcised, God clarified that the covenant promises would be fulfilled through Isaac, Abraham's son with Sarah, who was yet to be born.
So you moslems follow it not because God made a promise with you...lol
It should be optional for the moslems lol
I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. - Genesis 17
So, does the covenant include the Ishmaelites?
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(17-07-2025, 12:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Ishmael is not Jewish and he was circumcised...the Moslems have mistakenly borne the consequences. 
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Does the covenant include the Ishmaelites?
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(17-07-2025, 12:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. - Genesis 17
So, does the covenant include the Ishmaelites?
So you follow the Torah? You do not because it is corrupted according to you!! Are you a Jew?
circumcision, specifically the ritual of Brit Milah,
is a central and mandatory practice in Judaism for newborn males.
It signifies the covenant between God and the Jewish people, as detailed in the Torah.
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(17-07-2025, 12:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Does the covenant include the Ishmaelites?
That promise is only to the Israelites...it is simple..if ishmael insisted that future generations also need to follow so...then it is your problem
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(17-07-2025, 12:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: That promise is only to the Israelites...it is simple..if ishmael insisted that future generations also need to follow so...then it is your problem 
Did God say the covenant includes the descendants of Abraham?
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(17-07-2025, 12:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Did God say the covenant includes the descendants of Abraham?
Astaghfirullah...this is so funny
The biblical account in Genesis 17 states
that God clarified to Abraham that the covenant promises would be fulfilled through Isaac, the son Abraham would have with Sarah, even though Sarah was yet to conceive.
This was a significant point, as it distinguished Isaac as the chosen heir of the covenant promises, rather than Ishmael, who was already born to Abraham through Hagar.
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(17-07-2025, 12:16 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Astaghfirullah...this is so funny 
The biblical account in Genesis 17 states that God clarified to Abraham that the covenant promises would be fulfilled through Isaac, the son Abraham would have with Sarah, even though Sarah was yet to conceive. This was a significant point, as it distinguished Isaac as the chosen heir of the covenant promises, rather than Ishmael, who was already born to Abraham through Hagar.
Was Ishmael circumcised by his father Abraham?
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You should be ashamed after this but it seems you have no shame.
Forgive me for saying that but it has to be said.
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(17-07-2025, 12:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You should be ashamed after this but it seems you have no shame.
Forgive me for saying that but it has to be said.
There is no shame to read from the scriptures....hey don lose your temper.
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