[Lukongsimi]

according to religious texts like the Bible and Islamic tradition, the children of Adam and Eve, who were the first humans, would have had to marry their siblings to repopulate the earth. This is because they were the only humans at the time, and no other potential partners existed. This practice was a necessity for the survival and expansion of humanity in the early stages

That is why often heard people calling each other as sis or bro not of the same household

[Hope]

Being an israelite means that you are blessed by God in many ways...but it doesnt mean you can get away with disobedience...

Jacob had two concubines. Are the children of those two concubines also blessed Israelites as per your bible?

[pinkpanther]

Did you read all preceding verses?

The messages are very clear...

 I don know why the Hadiths say to kill all the jews and yet contradicts Allah's Love for the Israelites

[cheekopekman]

Exodus 6:6-8
Therefore say to the children of Israel: "I am the LORD; I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, I will rescue you from their bondage, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments. I will take you as My people, and I will be your God. Then you shall know that I am the LORD your God who brings you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. And I will bring you into the land which I swore to give to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and I will give it to you as a heritage: I am the LORD.""
 
Exodus 33:1
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Depart and go up from here, you and the people whom you have brought out of the land of Egypt, to the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, ‘To your descendants I will give it.’
 
Numbers 10:29
Now Moses said to Hobab the son of Reuel the Midianite, Moses’ father-in-law, “We are setting out for the place of which the LORD said, ‘I will give it to you.’ Come with us, and we will treat you well; for the LORD has promised good things to Israel.”

God mentioned Abraham, Isaac and Jacob lah!  No mention of Ishmael lah!

[pinkpanther]

Jacob had two concubines. Are the children of those two concubines also blessed Israelites as per your bible?

Yes..they are part of the 12 tribes and they are blessed!

[pinkpanther]

God mentioned Abraham, Isaac and Jacob lah!  No mention of Ishmael lah!

Got lah ..God also fulfilled His promise with Ishmael lah...but His covenant, which included promises of land and lineage, would be established with Isaac.

[cheekopekman]

Got lah ..God also fulfilled His promise with Ishmael lah...but His covenant, which included promises of land and lineage, would be established with Isaac.

Your Bible knowledge is excellent lah!

[Hope]

Jacob had two concubines. Are the children of those two concubines also blessed Israelites as per your bible?

Yes..they are part of the 12 tribes and they are blessed!

How many children Did Jacob have?
12?13?14

With how many women?were they his wives?
3? 4?

Did any of his children sleep with concubines?


How can The children of concubines get recognition?

Through which lineage Jesus was born?

[Lukongsimi]

According to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby, which means, before Isaac was born.

So, how come the Bible can have stories like that?

“And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned. And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭21‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Can you understand the verses ! As the child grew ?
Hagar was chased out twice
First time God told her go back
sec time no chance liao
Go n read the bible lah

[pinkpanther]

How many children Did Jacob have?
12?13?14

With how many women?were they his wives?
3? 4?

Did any of his children sleep with concubines?


How can The children of concubines get recognition?

Through which lineage Jesus was born?

How many children Did Jacob have?
12?13?14

13

With how many women?were they his wives?
3? 4?

4 wives

Did any of his children sleep with concubines?

Yes.Reuben

How can The children of concubines get recognition?

They are still part of Jacob's lineage

Through which lineage Jesus was born?

Abraham and David

[pinkpanther]

Your Bible knowledge is excellent lah!

Still lose to our moslem friend ....his Bible knowledge is the best..

[Hope]

How many children Did Jacob have?
12?13?14

13

With how many women?were they his wives?
3? 4?

4 wives

Did any of his children sleep with concubines?

Yes.Reuben

How can The children of concubines get recognition?

They are still part of Jacob's lineage

Through which lineage Jesus was born?

Abraham and David

If he had 13 children, why only 12 tribes?

Those four women are wives or concubines?

If those are wives, why Christian have problems Muslim marrying four wives?


If Jesus is  from the lineage of David and Abraham, what  connection he has with Jacob?

[pinkpanther]

If he had 13 children, why only 12 tribes?

Those four women are wives or concubines?

If those are wives, why Christian have problems Muslim marrying four wives?


If Jesus is  from the lineage of David and Abraham, what  connection he has with Jacob?

12 sons and 1 daughter...so daughter no count!


We do not oppose Moslems marrying up to four wives because Allah permits it. However, we take issue with Muhammad having 11 wives, as Allah explicitly states a maximum of four. We believe he did not adhere to God's commandments.

Jesus is also a descendant from Jacob .He is also an israelite

[Ali Imran]

From your Koran or the Bible ?
Proof it

I did say "according to the Bible". So it is from the Bible.

So, according to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby or a toddler. So how come there can be stories in the Bible about Isaac and Ishmael in the same house?

[Ali Imran]

12 sons and 1 daughter...so daughter no count!


We do not oppose Moslems marrying up to four wives because Allah permits it. However, we take issue with Muhammad having 11 wives, as Allah explicitly states a maximum of four. We believe he did not adhere to God's commandments.

Jesus is also a descendant from Jacob .He is also an israelite

If the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم disobeyed Allah, we would hear about it in the Quran. All the mistakes of the Prophet can be found in the Quran.

[Lukongsimi]

I did say "according to the Bible". So it is from the Bible.

So, according to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby or a toddler. So how come there can be stories in the Bible about Isaac and Ishmael in the same house?

U can’t understand my posts?
U loopid or what?

[Ali Imran]

Hagar was chased out twice

Who chased her out?

[Lukongsimi]

“And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned. And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭21‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Can you understand the verses ! As the child grew ?
Hagar was chased out twice
First time God told her go back
sec time no chance liao
Go n read the bible lah

Read here pachik

[Lukongsimi]

Who chased her out?

Mentioned Liao still ask?

[cheekopekman]

Still lose to our moslem friend ....his Bible knowledge is the best..

So you can debate and argue with him lah!  Me lousy lah!

[Ali Imran]

Read here pachik

So you think a great Prophet was a simp? He had to obey his wife's jealousy? He wasn't man enough?

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus from Judas lineage the son bored by Leah the first wife of Jacob
Jacob intention was only marry Rachel but was tricked by his father in law.
Rachel gave her maid to Jacob as wife to help her bear children
Leah followed n thus Jacob had 2 wives 2 concubines
2 concubines total 5 children
Wives 8 children

[pinkpanther]

If the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم disobeyed Allah, we would hear about it in the Quran. All the mistakes of the Prophet can be found in the Quran.

If you believe that Muhammad did not disobey Allah, then so be it ... It would be Allah's fault for giving a commandment that His prophet contradicts.

Allah is going back on His words...

[Lukongsimi]

So you think a great Prophet was a simp? He had to obey his wife's jealousy? He wasn't man enough?

Who are u to judge ?
Your muh also divorced old wife married paedophile how?

[Hope]

12 sons and 1 daughter...so daughter no count!


We do not oppose Moslems marrying up to four wives because Allah permits it. However, we take issue with Muhammad having 11 wives, as Allah explicitly states a maximum of four. We believe he did not adhere to God's commandments.

Jesus is also a descendant from Jacob .He is also an israelite

Jacob had two wives  and  Two concubines who were the servants of those two wives.It is similar to Abraham. Abraham had a wife and a maid.

Why should Christian have problems accepting the child of Abraham’s maid  if They could accept the children of those two servants?

[Lukongsimi]

Jacob had two wives  and  Two concubines who were the servants of those two wives.It is similar to Abraham. Abraham had a wife and a maid.

Why should Christian have problems accepting the child of Abraham’s maid  if They could accept the children of those two servants?

It’s not we accept or not.its according to the bible.

[Lukongsimi]

I did say "according to the Bible". So it is from the Bible.

So, according to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby or a toddler. So how come there can be stories in the Bible about Isaac and Ishmael in the same house?

This pachinko likes to lie without proofs

[Hope]

It’s not we accept or not.its according to the bible.

Now you know there is a Question. you should question your bible scholars?

What rights did those bible writers had to accept the grand children of Abraham, Not Abraham’s own son?

Abraham is called patriarch.

Did Abraham do adultery, Not Jacob?

[pinkpanther]

Jacob had two wives  and  Two concubines who were the servants of those two wives.It is similar to Abraham. Abraham had a wife and a maid.

Why should Christian have problems accepting the child of Abraham’s maid  if They could accept the children of those two servants?

Wives are recognize, slaves and servants are not!

[Lukongsimi]

Now you know there is a Question? you should question your bible scholars?

What rights did those bible writers had to accept the grand children of Abraham, Not Abraham’s own son?

Did Abraham did adultery, Not Jacob?

Your books full of errors why u never question ?
It’s because Ishmael not included in the promise u moslem Bo song lol