Scripture readings for Christmas

(02-08-2025, 05:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God not Allah

You believe there are 3 persons in the godhead. 

So which person?
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(02-08-2025, 05:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus said it is the same one.

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. - John 17

U understand what it means ?
Ask you to believe in Jesus n be saved as one family in heaven 
But u r not God u r only a follower of Christ

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 05:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U understand what it means ?
Ask you to believe in Jesus n be saved as one family in heaven 
But u r not God u r only a follower of Christ

Do you believe Jesus when he said the only true God is 1 person?
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(02-08-2025, 05:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you believe Jesus when he said the only true God is 1 person?

Why do you always focus solely on that verse? It's like digging into the soil for hours and only finding a single earthworm, then claiming the entire ground is fertile!
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(02-08-2025, 05:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You believe there are 3 persons in the godhead. 

So which person?

The Word of God is Jesus 
The word is with God and the word is God 
Who becomes flesh and dwells among man.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 05:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why do you always focus solely on that verse? It's like digging into the soil for hours and only finding a single earthworm, then claiming the entire ground is fertile!

lol
He got nothing else to debate 
Hope to dig gold

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 05:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  lol
He got nothing else to debate 
Hope to dig gold

Dig sai lah Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 05:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why do you always focus solely on that verse? It's like digging into the soil for hours and only finding a single earthworm, then claiming the entire ground is fertile!

Yes, I will bring up that verse again and again because that verse is explicit and unambiguous.
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(02-08-2025, 05:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you believe Jesus when he said the only true God is 1 person?
Don’t twist lah 
Jesus already mention baptize in the name of the father son and Holy Spirit
And the name is Jesus not Isa

1 God is 3 persons

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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John 17:3 is unambiguous.

John 10:30, which you will use to prove Jesus is God, is ambiguous. It can have more than 1 meaning.
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(02-08-2025, 05:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t twist lah 
1 God is 3 persons

Jesus said clearly that the only true God is 1 person, the Father.

You want to argue with Jesus?
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(02-08-2025, 05:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I will bring up that verse again and again because that verse is explicit and unambiguous.

You don even read it in full context...
Can I also find a verse from the Quran about the killings on disbelievers without reading the whole context... there's many of these verses
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(02-08-2025, 05:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  John 17:3 is unambiguous.

John 10:30, which you will use to prove Jesus is God, is ambiguous. It can have more than 1 meaning.

John 17:5 will prove how stupid your claim is
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(02-08-2025, 05:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I will bring up that verse again and again because that verse is explicit and unambiguous.

Your Koran also has trinity 
Allah Mary and isa right?
Explain

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 05:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You don even read it in full context...
Can I also find a verse from the Quran about the killings on disbelievers without reading the whole context... there's many of these verses

Tell me what the context is, other than that it points to only 1 person as the true God.
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(02-08-2025, 05:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your Koran also has trinity 
Allah Mary and isa right?

Wrong.
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(02-08-2025, 05:59 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  John 17:5 will prove how stupid your claim is

John 17:5 doesn't negate John 17:3.
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(02-08-2025, 06:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  John 17:5 doesn't negate John 17:3.

John 17:5 tells you that you cannot be right!
How can a man pre existed with God?
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(02-08-2025, 05:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Tell me what the context is, other than that it points to only 1 person as the true God.

The header for John 17 reads " Jesus prays to be glorified"...so Jesus is praying to His Father the only true God because He is vulnerable, He is only a human, He is afraid of death
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(02-08-2025, 02:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Our soul is spirit. It's non-tangible like our body.


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(02-08-2025, 06:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Wrong.

Then show me from your Quran that the Trinity it was talking were God the Father, Jesus and the Holy spirit..
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(02-08-2025, 06:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Wrong.
Theologically, what is meant by the Trinity in the Qur'an is a belief in three Gods: God (Allah), Jesus (Isa), and Mary, as the three independent Gods, while the Christian belief confirms that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit (not Mary) are one God, not three independent gods. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 05:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus said clearly that the only true God is 1 person, the Father.

You want to argue with Jesus?
U pachik
can’t win the arguments
Until now u can’t catch the meaning because u r blinded by darkness because u r the children of the dark or loo loo

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 06:52 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Theologically, what is meant by the Trinity in the Qur'an is a belief in three Gods: God (Allah), Jesus (Isa), and Mary, as the three independent Gods, while the Christian belief confirms that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit (not Mary) are one God, not three independent gods. 

Yes...the Quran is not very clear with a lot of things...it is confusing
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(02-08-2025, 07:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...the Quran is not very clear with a lot of things...it is confusing
Pachik tired liao elak liao lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 07:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pachik tired liao elak liao lol

Time for him to wash the dishes and head to bed Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 06:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The header for John 17 reads " Jesus prays to be glorified"...so Jesus is praying to His Father the only true God because He is vulnerable, He is only a human, He is afraid of death

You mean when Jesus was praying to the Father, he didn't know that he was also a true God? If he knows that he is also a true God, saying the Father is the only true God would make what he said false.
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