[Ali Imran]

It is foolish of you to focus on one verse...read John from the beginning!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1, NIV)

Who is being identified as the "Word"?

So there are 2 Gods?

[pinkpanther]

What negates Jesus as God is when he said the Father is the ONLY true God.

Quran 2:191

Kill them wherever you come upon them1 and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution2 is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers

Is Islam encouraging believers to kill? It certainly seemed to influence our friend, who feels compelled to fight for his brothers in the Middle East.

[pinkpanther]

So there are 2 Gods?

We are monotheists...

[pinkpanther]

So there are 2 Gods?

Jesus is also referred to as the 'Word' of Allah, the Messiah, and the Sinless One. The Quran attributes these titles to him, but they are merely for show ... they hold no real significance regardless of whether he possesses them or not.

But the Bible tells and show you how Jesus's attributes and titles were fully utilised and clearly explained! I'm sorry to say that one book that portrays Jesus in a bad light is most definitely a fraud!

[Lukongsimi]

Today peaceful,malang pachik not so wild today
The machik don’t know go where ?
Strange

[Ali Imran]

We are monotheists...

If you have 3 persons who are all 100% God, that means you have 3 Gods.

[pinkpanther]

If you have 3 persons who are all 100% God, that means you have 3 Gods.

1 to the power of 3

[Ali Imran]

1 to the power of 3

Exactly. 1 family made up of 3 Gods.

[Lukongsimi]

So many testimonies about Christ
Ex imam challenged Jesus

https://youtu.be/_mZvlXOQDB4

[pinkpanther]

If you have 3 persons who are all 100% God, that means you have 3 Gods.

It is not too late to switch out of Islam..unless you want to reside in the pit

Those who follow the Messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they find (His name) written with them in the Torah and the Gospel…” (7:157)

And (remember) when Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and give glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. But when he (Ahmad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: This is plain magic.” (61:6)

You moslems lied about what Jesus said because the name Ahmad was never found in the Torah and gospel... Muhammad wants to portray Jesus as a liar...

Then you moslems go on and rant that the gospel preached by Jesus was never recorded or lost in circulation...this goes against what Allah said..

Thirdly, why would a sinless Jesus allow someone who resembled him to replace Him on the cross...why would he allow someone to die in his place ..

Finally after all the commotions, Allah goes on to do the unthinkable to Jesus before ascending Him to heaven...

You say you moslems respected Jesus but you treated Him with no respect...Is this how Allah will a sinless Jesus? I will tell you that the dark pit is where you should belong if you choose the wrong path

[pinkpanther]

Exactly. 1 family made up of 3 Gods.

Are you not 1 family made up of other Imrans?

[Ali Imran]

It is not too late to switch out of Islam..unless you want to reside in the pit

Those who follow the Messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they find (His name) written with them in the Torah and the Gospel…” (7:157)

And (remember) when Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and give glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. But when he (Ahmad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: This is plain magic.” (61:6)

You moslems lied about what Jesus said because the name Ahmad was never found in the Torah and gospel... Muhammad wants to portray Jesus as a liar...

Then you moslems go on and rant that the gospel preached by Jesus was never recorded or lost in circulation...this goes against what Allah said..

Thirdly, why would a sinless Jesus allow someone who resembled him to replace Him on the cross...why would he allow someone to die in his place ..

Finally after all the commotions, Allah goes on to do the unthinkable to Jesus before ascending Him to heaven...

You say you moslems respected Jesus but you treated Him with no respect...Is this how Allah will a sinless Jesus? I will tell you that the dark pit is where you should belong if you choose the wrong path

The Father said He alone is God and there is no other besides Him. I believe that and you don't.

Jesus said only 1 person is the true God. I believe that and you don't.

[Ali Imran]

Are you not 1 family made up of other Imrans?

In my family, there are many humans. All of us are 100% humans.

You believe the 3 persons in the godhead are 100% God, ergo, you believe there are 3 Gods. You only say you're a monotheist but in truth, you believe there are 3 Gods.

[pinkpanther]

The Father said He alone is God and there is no other besides Him. I believe that and you don't.

Jesus said only 1 person is the true God. I believe that and you don't.

yes...I agreed 

God is one being in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

[pinkpanther]

In my family, there are many humans. All of us are 100% humans.

You believe the 3 persons in the godhead are 100% God, ergo, you believe there are 3 Gods. You only say you're a monotheist but in truth, you believe there are 3 Gods.

There is 1 family name that goes by Imran but there are many Imrans that hold that family name..do you get it?

[Ali Imran]

yes...I agreed 

God is one being in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

That goes against what Jesus said.

He specifically said the true God is ONLY one person but you believe God is 3 persons.

[Ali Imran]

There is 1 family name that goes by Imran but there are many Imrans that hold that family name..do you get it?

Yes, and they are all 100% human.

[pinkpanther]

That goes against what Jesus said.

He specifically said the true God is one person but you believe God is 3 persons.

Where does it goes against what Jesus said? You only found 2 earth worms and you want to proclaim the land as fertile. I can show you more of what Jesus claim to be? Show me more earth worms

Mark 14:62:
"Jesus said, 'I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.'

[pinkpanther]

Yes, and they are all 100% human.

They are one Imran in a spiritual sense! If the Father sets out something for them to do...will they disobey?

[Ali Imran]

Where does it goes against what Jesus said? You only found 2 earth worms and you want to proclaim the land as fertile. I can show you more of what Jesus claim to be? Show me more earth worms

Mark 14:62:
"Jesus said, 'I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.'

Does that negate the fact that Jesus said ONLY the Father is the true God? No.

Does that negate the fact that the Father said He alone is God? No.

[Ali Imran]

They are one Imran in a spiritual sense! If the Father sets out something for them to do...will they disobey?

No, all the members of my family are 100% humans with different names.

[pinkpanther]

No, all the members of my family are 100% humans with different names.

Yes. ..they are distinct in nature and names but they share 1 family name..Are the members still not one in any sense?

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus said to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9)
Jesus never said The Father and Him are not one but two.

[pinkpanther]

Does that negate the fact that Jesus said ONLY the Father is the true God? No.

Does that negate the fact that the Father said He alone is God? No.

Yes...the Father is the true God, He is the source...still it doesn't negate the fact that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are divine

[pinkpanther]

No, all the members of my family are 100% humans with different names.

Let us take a look at the sifat of a tree(God), if you take away the leaves(father), the trunk(son), the roots, (holy spirit) it cannot fully operate...
You need all of the pieces coming together to become the tree

[Ali Imran]

Let us take a look at the sifat of a tree(God), if you take away the leaves(father), the trunk(son), the roots, (holy spirit) it cannot fully operate...
You need all of the pieces coming together to become the tree

The leaves are not 100% a tree. So too the trunk and the roots, they are not 100% a tree.

But you believe the Father is 100% God, the Son is 100% God, and the HS is 100% God. So you have 3 Gods.

[Ali Imran]

Yes...the Father is the true God, He is the source...still it doesn't negate the fact that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are divine

If the Father is the ONLY TRUE God, what does that make the Son? Or the Holy Spirit?

Logical thinking will give you the answer.

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, and they are all 100% human.

Of the 3 persons in the trinity which one is human?

[Ali Imran]

Of the 3 persons in the trinity which one is human?

Of the 3, one is a man and one is an angel. That leaves the Father, the ONLY TRUE GOD.

[pinkpanther]

The leaves are not 100% a tree. So too the trunk and the roots, they are not 100% a tree.

But you believe the Father is 100% God, the Son is 100% God, and the HS is 100% God. So you have 3 Gods.

The Father, Son and The Holy Spirit are clearly 3 distinct persons coming together to be one true God.Together they form the Godhead!