[pinkpanther]

You already said that God cannot do something that contradicts His divine attributes and nature.

So, why do you believe a man is God?

You are again putting limitation on God
Becoming human did not cause God to cease being God. God did not lose any of His divine attributes when He took on human nature. He simply added human attributes to His divine nature....

[Ali Imran]

You are again putting limitation on God
Becoming human did not cause God to cease being God. God did not lose any of His divine attributes when He took on human nature. He simply added human attributes to His divine nature....

You're the one putting limitations on God when you say a man is God. 

A man, by nature, is limited.

[Ali Imran]

You are again putting limitation on God
Becoming human did not cause God to cease being God. God did not lose any of His divine attributes when He took on human nature. He simply added human attributes to His divine nature....

A human occupies space and time. God, by nature, transcends that. So, when you say a man is God, you are limiting God to a space and time.

[Ali Imran]

You are again putting limitation on God
Becoming human did not cause God to cease being God. God did not lose any of His divine attributes when He took on human nature. He simply added human attributes to His divine nature....

A human is a contingent being. God, by nature, is not contingent. If you believe a baby that needs taking care of is God, you're insulting God.

[pinkpanther]

A human occupies space and time. God, by nature, transcends that. So, when you say a man is God, you are limiting God to a space and time.

You don seem to understand the concept 
God dwells in Jesus and this does not mean God's essence is confined to Jesus' physical form.... It is a special manifestation of God's presence.
 Jesus' humanity is a distinct aspect of his being, while his divinity transcends space and time.

[pinkpanther]

A human is a contingent being. God, by nature, is not contingent. If you believe a baby that needs taking care of is God, you're insulting God.

According to your Quran, baby Jesus already know how to speak when He was born..Yes He still requires food and sleep but His divinity has always been there..

What is insulting is the Quran didn't give Him a purpose since He was born sinless...that aspect is considered redundant because it was never utilised.

[pinkpanther]

You're the one putting limitations on God when you say a man is God. 

A man, by nature, is limited.

A man by nature only have the lifespan of maybe 100yrs...but where is Jesus now? If you want to put limitations on a man...then Jesus defies your logic!

[Lukongsimi]

In Malachi, God says He does not change. Period. In James 1, it also says God does not change like shifting shadows.

When God says that through repentance, our sins will be erased, that doesn't change. But you believe that rule changes. God suddenly needs blood to forgive sins.

So many things changed when Paul came along. How come?

How come ?
It’s according to God’s will not your will.
How come your book says kill your enemies ?
Why ? Got 72 v waiting to claim?
Bible teaches love your book teaches kill u should ask why

[Lukongsimi]

What was copied then?

From Protestant, Catholic or orthodox bible?

Copy n change to false gospel means copy argue for what ?

[Lukongsimi]

The 2 thumbai
Stupid go to their mosque for what?
Listen to dirty jokes?

[Lukongsimi]

Thumbai


Read the whole verse
“For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Means He will not destroy the chosen ones Israel
Not about changing into a man

Your Koran teaches to kill the chosen ones how come?

[Hope]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-iw5o8crXtQ?s...6apYbn980H


Holy Sprit was mentioned only after council of Constantinople

[Hope]

Did Allah ask Muhammad to memorise this Quranic verse? Is this a revelation?

Quran 33:53
O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah.

Every revelation was memorised and added to the book of Quran.

We did not drop/ chose like Christian do.

[Hope]

Jacob was not a good person at first and he wants to change that so he wrestle with God with determination and faith just to receive His blessings...

The Quran will never teach you a lesson on persistent, determination and faith from this story...what the Quran tells you to eat till you are full and get ready to leave the home of Muhammad because he is a shy person

Every prophet in Christianity is not righteous.

As per Islam, only righteous can be a prophet.

Quran teaches morality more than the Bible.

[Hope]

Since He was born a human needs to follow human production process 
Born as a human die as a human n resurrect up as God to prove that He is God in the flesh.

Nice joke.

Why not other humans

[Hope]

Nope I don’t even feel comfortable even to read the Koran n Hadith posted online 
Not interest..lol

How can other Christian visit the mosque?


https://youtu.be/ZdT8BkR_2Sk?si=EcQ2bPqFB-23rjaf

[Hope]

That should be in the Hadiths..

Hadith are actions and saying of the prophet and his companions.

Only Allah’s revelations are in the Quran.

[Hope]

Malachi 3 just further emphasize that the holy land must be return to the Israelites

Holy land should be returned to Israelites or Jews?

If those Israelites have become Christian ,Muslim and atheist already How?

Not all the Israelites including the head Jacob were Jewish.Because Judaism started only after Moses.

[Hope]

Did Allah ask Muhammad to memorise this Quranic verse? Is this a revelation?

Quran 33:53
O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah.

This is not a revelation..this is a question and answer you will find back in the 90s under "The Newpaper" directed to Aunty Abigail!

It is irrelevant because Muhammad is no longer around and you will never get the chance to have a meal with him

This is a lesson for everyone when you visit other people houses

[pinkpanther]

This is a lesson for everyone when you visit other people houses

Hello, Why would God himself write such a thing and feel the need to put it in his most holy book ?

It seems obvious to have been written by Muhammad for his own self interests.


Imagine the New Testament, somewhere in the middle of the Gospel of John, where Jesus suddenly introduces a new dish....it is called beef stew. 

He explains how to prepare it, discussing the necessary ingredients and cooking steps. The lesson for all female believers is to embrace the role of a good cook, nurturing their husbands through their culinary skills.

 Does that make sense to you?

[pinkpanther]

Holy land should be returned to Israelites or Jews?

If those Israelites have become  Christian ,Muslim and atheist already How?

Not all the Israelites including the head Jacob were Jewish.Because Judaism started only after Moses.

The descendants of the Israelites are primarily Jews, and God's covenant with Isaac and his descendants endures to this day. Ergo, the Holy Land should be restored to them.

[pinkpanther]

Hadith are actions and saying of the prophet and his companions.

Only Allah’s revelations are in the Quran.

Rules on house visits should be in the Hadiths, not the Quran! It hurts the credibility of the Quran..

[Ali Imran]

You don seem to understand the concept 
God dwells in Jesus and this does not mean God's essence is confined to Jesus' physical form.... It is a special manifestation of God's presence.
 Jesus' humanity is a distinct aspect of his being, while his divinity transcends space and time.

Is the flesh God? You will have to say yes.

So, the flesh occupies space and time. You're limiting God to a space and time.

[Ali Imran]

According to your Quran, baby Jesus already know how to speak when He was born..Yes He still requires food and sleep but His divinity has always been there..

What is insulting is the Quran didn't give Him a purpose since He was born sinless...that aspect is considered redundant because it was never utilised.

All prophets have the same purpose: to guide the people. That is basic theology.

Is the flesh God? You will have to say yes. So, you believe God was a baby, a contingent being.

[Hope]

Question and answer :

When was the Holy sprit added to the Christian concept of God?


https://youtube.com/shorts/-iw5o8crXtQ?s...Jy0dZzUjb3

[pinkpanther]

Is the flesh God? You will have to say yes.

So, the flesh occupies space and time. You're limiting God to a space and time.

While Jesus, as God in human form, experienced the limitations of the flesh, this does not mean that the flesh itself is divine...

[pinkpanther]

All prophets have the same purpose: to guide the people. That is basic theology.

Is the flesh God? You will have to say yes. So, you believe God was a baby, a contingent being.

Well yes.. according to Hadith, Allah can take on human form attested by many scholars..if they have no problem with that.. why should you?

According to shia, Allah have shin, hands and eyes ...so Allah bound himself in some form

[pinkpanther]

Question and answer :

When was the Holy sprit added to the Christian concept of God?


https://youtube.com/shorts/-iw5o8crXtQ?s...Jy0dZzUjb3

The concept of the Holy spirit being God has always been there in the Bible....we just extract the gist

[Ali Imran]

Well yes.. according to Hadith, Allah can take on human form attested by many scholars..if they have no problem with that.. why should you?

According to shia, Allah have shin, hands and eyes ...so Allah bound himself in some form

I have not heard of any Muslim scholar who says Allah can dwell in a human body.

[pinkpanther]

I have not heard of any Muslim scholar who says Allah can dwell in a human body.

رأيت ربي في صورة شاب أمرد جعد عليه حلة خضراء

I saw my Lord in the form of a curly-haired, beardless young man, wearing a green robe.

The well-known Salafi website, Dorar, has published a research on this hadith. In that research, they have stated about this report above:

وهذا الحديث من هذا الطريق صححه جمعٌ من أهل العلم، منهم:

الإمام أحمد المنتخب من علل الخلال: ص282، وإبطال التأويلات لأبي يعلى 1/139

وأبو زرعة الرازي إبطال التأويلات لأبي يعلى 1/144

والطبراني إبطال التأويلات لأبي يعلى 1/143

وأبو الحسن بن بشار إبطال التأويلات 1/ 142، 143، 222

وأبو يعلى في إبطال التأويلات 1/ 141، 142، 143

وابن صدقة إبطال التأويلات 1/144 تلبيس الجهمية 7 /225

وابن تيمية في بيان تلبيس الجهمية 7/290، 356 طبعة مجمع الملك فهد لطباعة المصحف الشريف- 1426هـ

 

This hadith through this chain has been declared sahih by a group of scholars, including:

Imam Ahmad (al-Muntakhab min 'Ilal al-Khalal, p. 282; and Ibtal al-Tawilat of Abu Ya'la 1/139)

Abu Zur'ah al-Razi (Ibtal al-Tawilat of Abu Ya'la 1/144)

Al-Tabarani (Ibtal al-Tawilat of Abu Ya'la 1/143)

Abu al-Hasan b. Bashar (Ibtal al-Tawilat 1/142, 143, 222)

Ibn Sadaqah (Ibtal al-Tawilat 1/144) (Talbis al-Jahmiyyah 7/225)

Ibn Taymiyyah in Bayan Talbis al-Jahmiyyah 7/290, 356 - printed by King Fahd Complex for the Publication of the Noble Mushaf, 1426 H)