Scripture readings for Christmas

(06-08-2025, 05:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Where? Jesus did not deny His divinity. Stephen prayed to Him...

The pagans prayed to an idol. Does that make the idol God?
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(06-08-2025, 05:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  His God copycat lah Big Grin
Lol

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(06-08-2025, 05:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Where? Jesus did not deny His divinity. 

Read John 10 from verse 31 onwards.
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(06-08-2025, 05:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The pagans prayed to an idol. Does that make the idol God?
U pray to unknown nameless god does that makes it god?

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(06-08-2025, 05:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U pray to unknown nameless god does that makes it god?

No, it doesn't.

So there, pinky's argument is defeated.
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(06-08-2025, 05:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, it doesn't.

So there, pinky's argument is defeated.

U don’t even know what is your God’s  name lol
Only know the angel name jibril

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(06-08-2025, 05:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U don’t even know what is your God’s  name lol

Allah

Ar-Rahman

Al-Aziz

Many more.. totalling 99.

Did Jesus tell you what is the Father's name?
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(06-08-2025, 05:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah

Ar-Rahman

Al-Aziz

Many more.. totalling 99.

Did Jesus tell you what is the Father's name?

Did your god told u those are his names ?

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(06-08-2025, 05:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Read John 10 from verse 31 onwards.
“But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.””
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭38‬ ‭NIV


See Jesus is saying Father and He is one God

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(06-08-2025, 05:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Did your god told u those are his names ?

Yes, in the Quran.
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(06-08-2025, 05:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, in the Quran.
Where don’t just say without proof

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(06-08-2025, 05:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Where don’t just say without proof

https://learn-islam.org/allah-names
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(06-08-2025, 05:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  “But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.””
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭38‬ ‭NIV


See Jesus is saying Father and He is one

The disciples also will be one with Jesus and the Father.
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(06-08-2025, 05:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  https://learn-islam.org/allah-names

The 99 names of Allah in Islam are actually attributes or characteristics, not personal names, according to Islam's teachings. 

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(06-08-2025, 05:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The disciples also will be one with Jesus and the Father.

Can’t u read the Father is in Jesus n Jesus is in him not one with Jesus and Father
Simple English also u can’t understand u didn’t finish school?

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Russia having 3 catastrophic disasters at one time 

https://youtu.be/vYO-BiQZ7pY?si=xSdmWqviF-BQ1YNL

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(06-08-2025, 05:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Read John 10 from verse 31 onwards.

He further emphasize His divinity...where deny?

38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
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(06-08-2025, 05:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The pagans prayed to an idol. Does that make the idol God?

Jesus is no idol God! His sinless self came to fulfill a greater purpose! The Quran considered this aspect as redundant..
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(06-08-2025, 05:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Can’t u read the Father is in Jesus n Jesus is in him not one with Jesus and Father
Simple English also u can’t understand u didn’t finish school?

Yes...this is what the passage says...the moslem never read...don know where he copied his argument from Big Grin
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(06-08-2025, 06:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...this is what the passage says...the moslem never read...don know where he copied his argument from Big Grin
He falls into his own trap l🤣

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(06-08-2025, 06:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He further emphasize His divinity...where deny?

38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

That's called cherry picking, only focusing on that ambiguous part.

When they accused Jesus of claiming to be God, Jesus rebutted them, starting from verse 34. Jesus argued against their accusation. "Why do you accuse me of blasphemy...". That is the rebuttal to the accusation.

As for your cherry-picking, Jesus also said the disciples will be in the Father and Jesus as well. "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."
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(06-08-2025, 06:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He falls into his own trap l🤣

By now, you should know that I don't make novice mistake like both of you.
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(06-08-2025, 06:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That's called cherry picking, only focusing on that ambiguous part.

When they accused Jesus of claiming to be God, Jesus rebutted them, starting from verse 34. Jesus argued against their accusation. "Why do you accuse me of blasphemy...". That is the rebuttal to the accusation.

As for your cherry-picking, Jesus also said the disciples will be in the Father and Jesus as well.
Read the whole chapter to find the conclusion of the meaning

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(06-08-2025, 05:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The 99 names of Allah in Islam are actually attributes or characteristics, not personal names, according to Islam's teachings. 

99 names which describes Allah's attributes.
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These basic beliefs shape the Islamic way of life.
1 Belief in the Oneness of God. ...
2 Belief in the Angels of God. ...
3 Belief in the Revelations (Books) of God. ...
4 Belief in the Prophets of God. ...
5 Belief in the Day of Judgment. ...
6 Belief in Premeasurement (Qadar)

In revelation 19/10 we are told not to worship angels

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(06-08-2025, 06:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  These basic beliefs shape the Islamic way of life.
1 Belief in the Oneness of God. ...
2 Belief in the Angels of God. ...
3 Belief in the Revelations (Books) of God. ...
4 Belief in the Prophets of God. ...
5 Belief in the Day of Judgment. ...
6 Belief in Premeasurement (Qadar)

In revelation 19/10  we are told not to worship angels

Do you believe in angels?
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(06-08-2025, 06:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  99 names which describes Allah's attributes.

Not given by your Allah 
It’s given by man

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(06-08-2025, 06:38 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you believe in angels?

Not fallen angels
We don’t worship angels

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(06-08-2025, 05:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Can’t u read the Father is in Jesus n Jesus is in him not one with Jesus and Father
Simple English also u can’t understand u didn’t finish school?

I must teach you the Gospels.

"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."
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(06-08-2025, 06:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Not fallen angels

You don't believe in fallen angels even when the Bible mentions them?

How come you don't believe what is in the Bible?
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