Scripture readings for Christmas

(Yesterday, 12:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  

A son of God is not God.

Many people are called sons of God in the Bible.
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(Yesterday, 11:55 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So why did Matthew suka suka omit the Shema?
So why you suka suka attack the Bible ?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 12:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  A son of God is not God.

Many people are called sons of God in the Bible.
God son and Holy Spirit are 1 God
Still can’t  get into your numbskull?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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Issues with the Koran
The claim that the Quran contains "grave mistakes" is a contested one. Muslims believe the Quran is the literal word of God and is free of error. However, some scholars and critics point to perceived contradictions, historical inaccuracies, and textual variants as evidence of errors. 

Arguments for errors: 
  • [size=11]Textual variants:
    There are different recitations and textual variations within the Quran, such as those related to the Hafs and Warsh versions. 



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  • [size=11]Historical inaccuracies:
    Some critics argue that the Quran contains historical inaccuracies or inconsistencies. 



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  • [size=11]Contradictions:
    Certain verses are perceived as contradicting each other, or contradicting other religious texts. 



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  • [size=11]Interpretational challenges:
    Some verses require complex interpretations to reconcile apparent inconsistencies, which some find problematic, according to Quora
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As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 12:02 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So why you suka suka attack the Bible ?

You said the Bible is preserved. So I'm challenging your claim.

Why did Matthew omit the Shema?
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(Yesterday, 12:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God son and Holy Spirit are 1 God
Still can’t  get into your numbskull?

Who taught you that? How come Jesus never once taught his followers that?
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(Yesterday, 12:05 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Issues with the Koran
The claim that the Quran contains "grave mistakes" is a contested one. Muslims believe the Quran is the literal word of God and is free of error. However, some scholars and critics point to perceived contradictions, historical inaccuracies, and textual variants as evidence of errors. 

Arguments for errors: 
  • [size=11]Textual variants:
    There are different recitations and textual variations within the Quran, such as those related to the Hafs and Warsh versions. 



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  • [size=11]Historical inaccuracies:
    Some critics argue that the Quran contains historical inaccuracies or inconsistencies. 



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  • [size=11]Contradictions:
    Certain verses are perceived as contradicting each other, or contradicting other religious texts. 



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  • [size=11]Interpretational challenges:
    Some verses require complex interpretations to reconcile apparent inconsistencies, which some find problematic, according to Quora
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ALL Muslim scholars say the Quran is preserved.
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Jewish comedian; if we can kill we will Jesus many more times.


https://youtu.be/aO3aSrkZp5o?si=BswsscphOSogq_pz
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Jesus would not clap

Jesus: Blessed are those meek

https://youtu.be/3yPVpHquFpk?si=wJzoGIjLBol7N8Io



Mathew 5:3-12

“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are those who mourn,
    for they will be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
    for they will inherit the earth.

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
    for they will be filled.

Blessed are the merciful,
    for they will be shown mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart,
    for they will see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
    for they will be called children of God.
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Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you,persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
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(Yesterday, 11:16 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Kjv the oldest translated version should not be wrong 
New version Bible altered to make it simple to understand

Yes...it is the oldest and it doesn't deviate from the core teachings ..it is good..but I don read this translation..so difficult  Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 11:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  First and foremost, my study of Christianity and the NT confirms what our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم said about the elevation of the status of Jesus.

Muhammad was illiterate and not a scholar. If a beggar claims to be the final messenger, presents various versions of biblical stories, and offers moral teachings, would you believe he is the last prophet?

He doesn't even study, he chooses to engage in a swearing competition with the Christians and not debate property..is this truly a messenger of God?
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(Yesterday, 10:58 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  ALL Muslims believe the Quran is from God and that the Quran is pristine.

Yes, well preserved doesn't equate to the word of God..who can understand them if you don have Muhammad's interpretations.... ironically, the Quran encourages you to develop your own interpretations.... Laughing how can that be the words of God?
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(Yesterday, 12:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  ALL Muslim scholars say the Quran is preserved.

Of course side own book even full of errors will say it’s perfectly good.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 01:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad was illiterate and not a scholar. If a beggar claims to be the final messenger, presents various versions of biblical stories, and offers moral teachings, would you believe he is the last prophet?

He doesn't even study, he chooses to engage in a swearing competition with the Christians and not debate property..is this truly a messenger of God?
The bible prophets none is said to be illiterate 
Only muh.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 01:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad was illiterate and not a scholar. If a beggar claims to be the final messenger, presents various versions of biblical stories, and offers moral teachings, would you believe he is the last prophet?

He doesn't even study, he chooses to engage in a swearing competition with the Christians and not debate property..is this truly a messenger of God?

If God wills a beggar to be a prophet, are you going to reject him?
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(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes, well preserved doesn't equate to the word of God..who can understand them if you don have Muhammad's interpretations.... ironically, the Quran encourages you to develop your own interpretations.... Laughing how can that be the words of God?

We understand the Quran. The Quran has been our guidance for over 1,400+ years already. Our religion has remained the same throughout. 

We believe, 100%, the Quran to be the verbatim word of God.

Do you have the same level of certainty in your faith? No, you have a highly likely faith, you said.
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(Yesterday, 02:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Of course side own book even full of errors will say it’s perfectly good.

Are you saying all our scholars are dishonest?
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(Yesterday, 03:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We understand the Quran. The Quran has been our guidance for over 1,400+ years already. Our religion has remained the same throughout. 

We believe, 100%, the Quran to be the verbatim word of God.

Do you have the same level of certainty in your faith? No, you have a highly likely faith, you said.

You don even understand the word of God .one verse can have 5-6 interpretations...what kind faith can you have if you don have Muhammad's interpretations....these faiths are built from your own interpretations...not the words of God but the will of God that you may choose to mislead yourself  Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If God wills a beggar to be a prophet, are you going to reject him?

No. I'm going to test him. Who tested Muhammad?
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(Yesterday, 03:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Are you saying all our scholars are dishonest?

There is no democracy in Islam ..everyone sing to the same tune ..same like the N Koreans! If they speak their mind...get read for execution
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(Yesterday, 04:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You don even understand the word of God .one verse can have 5-6 interpretations...what kind faith can you have if you don have Muhammad's interpretations....these faiths are built from your own interpretations...not the words of God but the will of God that you may choose to mislead yourself  Big Grin

Maybe you don't understand the Quran. But we do. That's why our religion has remained unchanged for over 1,400+ years already.

We have 100% faith in God, the Lord of all the worlds, and in His final messenger, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم.
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(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No. I'm going to test him. Who tested Muhammad?

The people who initially rejected the prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم eventually accepted him. One of them became the greatest warrior of Islam ever known, Khalid ibn Walid, who was fighting against the prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم at first, but he became a Muslim, and he led the small ragtag Muslim army to fight 2 mighty empires simultaneously and defeated them. Yes, the Romans and the Persians.
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(Yesterday, 04:34 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There is no democracy in Islam ..everyone sing to the same tune ..same like the N Koreans! If they speak their mind...get read for execution

Religion of hopeless fear 😧
Christianity don’t threaten or force people

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The key to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where many believe Jesus Christ was crucified and entombed. Thousands of pilgrims from all over the world make a pilgrimage here for the Easter holidays.

Who holds that key? A Muslim family has been holding that key for many centuries already. They have been taking care of that church since the Muslims took over Jerusalem.
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(Yesterday, 04:52 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Religion of hopeless fear 😧
Christianity don’t threaten or force people

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Michael Servetus, a Christian burned at the stake for refusing to accept the Trinity.
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(Yesterday, 04:56 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  [Image: michaelservetus1.jpg]

Michael Servetus, a Christian burned at the stake for refusing to accept the Trinity.

1 Only? compares to moslem only a leg hair.

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(Yesterday, 05:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  1 Only? compares to moslem only a leg hair.

This case was institutional. There was a trial held by the church. And it proves your claim "Christianity don’t threaten or force people" to be false.
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  This case was institutional. There was a trial held by the church. And it proves your claim "Christianity don’t threaten or force people" to be false.
Ancient times not now 
U still live in the past ?
Islam is different it is still happening now

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(Yesterday, 04:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The people who initially rejected the prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم eventually accepted him. One of them became the greatest warrior of Islam ever known, Khalid ibn Walid, who was fighting against the prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم at first, but he became a Muslim, and he led the small ragtag Muslim army to fight 2 mighty empires simultaneously and defeated them. Yes, the Romans and the Persians.

Muhammad came with the sword...same as the Japanese who invaded Singapore..many Singaporeans also believe General Yamashita is the son of God...and many locals even work for the japanese tampeitai at that time...General Yamashita conquered most of S. East Asia...many believe he is God sent just like Muhammad..

When Japan surrendered and Yamashita was captured, all his followers finally realized the truth. The difference between his followers and the Moslems is that they awakened, while you still haven't.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad came with the sword...same as the Japanese who invaded Singapore..many Singaporeans also believe General Yamashita is the son of God...and many locals even work for the japanese tampeitai at that time...General Yamashita conquered most of S. East Asia...many believe he is God sent just like Muhammad..

When Japan surrendered and Yamashita was captured, all his followers finally realized the truth. The difference between his followers and the Moslems is that they awakened, while you still haven't.

Was Prophet Moses a warrior and led his people to war?
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