[pinkpanther]

And yet, you do not obey the Law that God wills.

No one is perfect in obeying the law...are you perfect?

[cheekopekman]

No one is perfect in obeying the law...are you perfect?

Only God is perfect lah!  ALL His creations are imperfect lah!

[Ali Imran]

No one is perfect in obeying the law...are you perfect?

You chose to lead your life according to man-made (secular) law, not God's law. You admitted that already.

So why do you shamelessly make a statement saying a Christian is one who does the will of God?

[Ali Imran]

No one is perfect in obeying the law...are you perfect?

Didn't Luke say the parents of John the Baptist were obedient to the law perfectly?

[pinkpanther]

You chose to lead your life according to man-made (secular) law, not God's law. You admitted that already.

So why do you shamelessly make a statement saying a Christian is one who does the will of God?

The principles and laws of the Bible are to be judged solely by God... ultimately, God will judge our actions. Why is there a need to establish additional laws when secular laws are already fair and just? 

Regarding Shariah, those caught engaging in homosexual acts will face punishment, but we believe that if they repent, their sins can be forgiven. We offer them the opportunity to turn over a new leaf...this is an exercise of free will, the choice to change. But the shariah gives no chance!

[pinkpanther]

Didn't Luke say the parents of John the Baptist were obedient to the law perfectly?

Are they perfectly obedient in the way that Jesus was?

adherence to the law doesn't necessarily mean they were sinless or perfectly righteous in their hearts.

[cheekopekman]

Didn't Luke say the parents of John the Baptist were obedient to the law perfectly?

Are they perfectly obedient in the way that Jesus was?

adherence to the law doesn't necessarily mean they were sinless or perfectly righteous in their hearts.

Only Jesus obeyed the Law perfectly and applied it to Himself lah!  He was the Passover Lamb sacrificed as the Atonement to appease God's wrath lah!

[pinkpanther]

V16 doesn't make sense. Verse 4:16 is a prohibition on fornication. A punishment for fornication can be meted out by the Shariah court.

Did you read the Tafsir?

It is punishment for homosexual....Shariah will throw them in jail but secular law will not prosecute them..their actions will be judged by God! We do not play God!

[Lukongsimi]

Now you look real silly
We are also not under the Mosaic Law...we are under a new convenant

He knows nothing about the new covenant only knows cannot eat pork but his religion can use camel as worship to his god?
Strange !
In the OT nobody worships camel to God.

[Lukongsimi]

In ancient Israelite practice, people would offer various animals as burnt offerings to God, known as Jehovah. These included bulls, rams, goats, and even birds like turtledoves and pigeons. The animals were to be "clean" and without blemish, and were entirely consumed by fire on the altar as a sweet-smelling aroma to God.

[Lukongsimi]

I don't eat pork because God's will forbade pork. 

That is a small example of me doing the will of God.

Your Allah will and Yahweh’s will is entirely different 
One teaches to love your enemies
One teaches to hate Jews and Christians

[pinkpanther]

He knows nothing about the new covenant only knows cannot eat pork but his religion can use camel as worship to his god?
Strange !
In the OT nobody worships camel to God.

His dementia lai liao

[pinkpanther]

Very wrong.

Tell me why you think Anwar is not rewarded by Allah to be the PM of Malaysia!

[Lukongsimi]

So you are without a divine law to guide your life? Lawless?

What divine laws u r talking about ?
Kill all Jews and Christians n don’t eat pork but can eat unclean camel meat n sacrifice camel to your god?
N wonder the camels are crying carry u on their back in the hot desert u never appreciate them and still eat them?

[Lukongsimi]

Because I'm talking to Christians.

U claiming it for your religion name sake

[Lukongsimi]

No, I'm saying you don't do the will of God, as exhorted by Jesus.

U r not the follower of Jesus how to do the will of God?

[cheekopekman]

"I am the LORD..." (Genesis 28:13) Jehovah "the LORD" is our God too lah!

[Ali Imran]

Tell me why you think Anwar is not rewarded by Allah to be the PM of Malaysia!

When Allah gives us bounties, it does not mean Allah likes us. And when Allah takes away our means of livelihood, it does not mean Allah is displeased with us. 

This life and everything in it is just a test.

[Ali Imran]

Did you read the Tafsir?

It is punishment for homosexual....Shariah will throw them in jail but secular law will not prosecute them..their actions will be judged by God! We do not play God!

It is talking about illegal sexual activities.

And yes, the divine law (Shariah or Mosaic) will punish them, while the secular law is fine with it. 

And you lead your life taking guidance from man-made (secular) law. I prefer to follow God's guidance, even if you find it abhorrent.

[Ali Imran]

Are they perfectly obedient in the way that Jesus was?

adherence to the law doesn't necessarily mean they were sinless or perfectly righteous in their hearts.

In the case of the parents of John the Baptist, they obeyed the law perfectly, and they were righteous. But yes, obeying the law perfectly does not mean one is righteous but that is beside the point. You said "No one is perfect in obeying the law" but the Bible says you can perfectly obey the law. If you're God-conscious, you will eventually find it easy to be obedient to all of God's law, all 600+ of them.

[Ali Imran]

The principles and laws of the Bible are to be judged solely by God... ultimately, God will judge our actions. Why is there a need to establish additional laws when secular laws are already fair and just? 

Regarding Shariah, those caught engaging in homosexual acts will face punishment, but we believe that if they repent, their sins can be forgiven. We offer them the opportunity to turn over a new leaf...this is an exercise of free will, the choice to change. But the shariah gives no chance!

When the Bible (Deut 13:6-11) says to put to death those who invite people to worship other gods, do you disagree?

[pinkpanther]

When Allah gives us bounties, it does not mean Allah likes us. And when Allah takes away our means of livelihood, it does not mean Allah is displeased with us. 

This life and everything in it is just a test.

Then don go ranting on the Israelis and do not care for your bros in the middle east...life is just a test..you take care of your own..that is what matters!

[Ali Imran]

Then don go ranting on the Israelis and do not care for your bros in the middle east...life is just a test..you take care of your own..that is what matters!

You're okay with the genocide taking place right now?

[pinkpanther]

It is talking about illegal sexual activities.

And yes, the divine law (Shariah or Mosaic) will punish them, while the secular law is fine with it. 

And you lead your life taking guidance from man-made (secular) law. I prefer to follow God's guidance, even if you find it abhorrent.

Secular laws are often based on principles of reason, justice, and the needs of society.....it is good enough...

After being judged by Shariah law, are you able to meet Allah and inform Him that you have been punished for your sins according to Shariah, and kindly ask Him not to pass this judgment upon you again?

we do not need impose God's laws as we are judged by God after death...

[pinkpanther]

You're okay with the genocide taking place right now?

To the Palestinians, it is a test. If one dies during genocide, it means one has finish the test...is it not a good thing? Don you want to finish the test fast?

[pinkpanther]

When the Bible (Deut 13:6-11) says to put to death those who invite people to worship other gods, do you disagree?

The Jews and christians do not persecute their followers for leaving their respective religions! Only the moslems are not given the free will to choose or leave....a life worse than a N korean

[Ali Imran]

we do not need impose God's laws as we are judged by God after death...

You believe Jesus already paid for all your sins, correct? So after death, why do you need to be judged anymore?

[Ali Imran]

The Jews and christians do not persecute their followers for leaving their respective religions! Only the moslems are not given the free will to choose or leave....a life worse than a N korean

So Deut 13 is just for fun reading, no need to obey the commandment?

[Ali Imran]

To the Palestinians, it is a test. If one dies during genocide, it means one has finish the test...is it not a good thing? Don you want to finish the test fast?

So you're okay with the genocide taking place right now in Palestine?

[Ali Imran]

After being judged by Shariah law, are you able to meet Allah and inform Him that you have been punished for your sins according to Shariah, and kindly ask Him not to pass this judgment upon you again?

Yes. You will not be judged again in the hereafter.