[Ali Imran]

They are still Jewish majority and they allow democracy and diversity so people can still choose to practice other faiths...can the same be said regarding other moslems countries?

Can I also say that Malaysia and Indonesia is a godless nation?

Same sex marriage is recognized in Israel. 

When they allow what God forbids, that is disobedience to God.

[pinkpanther]

Same sex marriage is recognized in Israel. 

When they allow what God forbids, that is disobedience to God.

I know you hate Israel but why do you lie about them ... same-sex marriage is not recognized in Israel, as marriages can only be performed according to religious laws, and no religious body in Israel recognizes same-sex marriage

[Ali Imran]

No. I'm clear. You are a Moslem and you are unclear...God is one that He Co exists in 3 persons..

Not just Muslims. Everybody else, except the Trinitarian Christian, is unclear. You say with your lips that you believe there is 1 God, but you believe there are 3 fully 100% Gods. You're contradicting yourself.

[Ali Imran]

I know you hate Israel but why do you lie about them ... same-sex marriage is not recognized in Israel, as marriages can only be performed according to religious laws, and no religious body in Israel recognizes same-sex marriage

[pinkpanther]

That condition can only be fulfill if they married outside Israel so Israel prohibited same sex marriage

[Ali Imran]

I know you hate Israel but why do you lie about them ... same-sex marriage is not recognized in Israel, as marriages can only be performed according to religious laws, and no religious body in Israel recognizes same-sex marriage

I don't hate Israel. It is a country and they allow LGBTQ to have their headquarters there. 

And yes, same sex marriage can be openly celebrated there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-of-we...marriages/

[Ali Imran]

That condition can only be fulfill if they married outside Israel so Israel prohibited same sex marriage

So yes, same sex marriage can be recognized by the state of Israel.

So, how are they in obedience to God?

[pinkpanther]

Not just Muslims. Everybody else, except the Trinitarian Christian, is unclear. You say with your lips that you believe there is 1 God, but you believe there are 3 fully 100% Gods. You're contradicting yourself.

We believe in the source that powered the many light bulbs but you guys are only interested in counting the bulbs

[Ali Imran]

We believe in the source that powered the many light bulbs but you guys are only interested in counting the bulbs

You said there is only 1 light bulb, but at the same time, you also said there are 3 light bulbs.

You're contradicting yourself.

[pinkpanther]

So yes, same sex marriage can be recognized by the state of Israel.

So, how are they in obedience to God?

The same can be said regarding the gay Moslems who married outside of their country 

israel is clear that they do not allow same sex marriages! That does not go against God

[pinkpanther]

You said there is only 1 light bulb, but at the same time, you also said there are 3 light bulbs.

You're contradicting yourself.

The electricity represents one being, the light bulbs represent persons

[Ali Imran]

The same can be said regarding the gay Moslems who married outside of their country 

israel is clear that they do not allow same sex marriages! That does not go against God

So, let's get back to the covenant. 

The covenant is broken because they disobeyed God. Jesus wasn't the only one they rejected. They have killed other prophets sent by God.

And then, Jesus said God will take away the kingdom from them and give it to another nation that will produce the fruits, and the fruit is a metaphor for obedience to God.

[Ali Imran]

The electricity represents one being, the light bulbs represent persons

Ok. The light bulbs represent persons and the persons are Gods.

So I will repeat. You believe there is only 1 light bulb, but at the same time, you believe there are 3 light bulbs. You're contradicting yourself.

[pinkpanther]

So, let's get back to the covenant. 

The covenant is broken because they disobeyed God. Jesus wasn't the only one they rejected. They have killed other prophets sent by God.

And then, Jesus said God will take away the kingdom from them and give it to another nation that will produce the fruits, and the fruit is a metaphor for obedience to God.

They kill because they do not believe they are prophets of God. . this stems from ignorance. This is different from Moslems, who acknowledge that Muhammad is their prophet but still continue to murder his family. 

If you're discussing the covenant, then Jesus should be excluded from the conversation, as he came thousands of years after the covenant was established.

[pinkpanther]

Ok. The light bulbs represent persons and the persons are Gods.

So I will repeat. You believe there is only 1 light bulb, but at the same time, you believe there are 3 light bulbs. You're contradicting yourself.

There is no contradictions... perhaps this is a poor analogy...a human with a body, soul and spirit is a better analogy....without the 3 coming in agreement, you cannot fulfill anything

[Ali Imran]

They kill because they do not believe they are prophets of God. . this stems from ignorance. This is different from Moslems, who acknowledge that Muhammad is their prophet but still continue to murder his family. 

If you're discussing the covenant, then Jesus should be excluded from the conversation, as he came thousands of years after the covenant was established.

The condition of the covenant is obedience to God. When they rejected Jesus who was sent by God to them, that's disobedience. 

Jesus made it clear that the covenant has been broken. In the parable of the wicked tenants, the landowner is the one true God. The vineyard represents the kingdom of God. The tenants were the Israelites. The servants the landowner (God) sent to collect the harvest were the prophets, whom the tenants mistreated and killed. And lastly, the landowner (God) sent his son (Jesus), who received the same treatment from the tenants. 

What happened after that? The landowner (God) got rid of the tenants and gave the vineyard to other tenants and the new tenants will produce the fruits. 

So, the wicked tenants (Israelites) have been kicked out of God's kingdom.

[Ali Imran]

There is no contradictions... perhaps this is a poor analogy...a human with a body, soul and spirit is a better analogy....without the 3 coming in agreement, you cannot fulfill anything

Ok. Lets go into the detail of that analogy.

Human = 1 God.
Body = the Father.
Soul = the Son.
Spirit = the Holy Spirit.

Now, a body alone is not a human because a human requires all 3, body, soul, and spirit. So you're saying the Father alone is not God.

Your analogy crumbles.

[Ali Imran]

Bro. The Trinity is untenable.

[pinkpanther]

Ok. Lets go into the detail of that analogy.

Human = 1 God.
Body = the Father.
Soul = the Son.
Spirit = the Holy Spirit.

Now, a body alone is not a human because a human requires all 3, body, soul, and spirit. So you're saying the Father alone is not God.

Your analogy crumbles.

The Father cannot be God in its full entirety even though He is still God

[Ali Imran]

The Father cannot be God in its full entirety even though He is still God

A partial God?

Not a fully 100% God?

[pinkpanther]

Bro. The Trinity is untenable.

Try telling that to the largest and third largest religion (Hinduism) about your naivety

[pinkpanther]

A partial God?

Not a fully 100% God?

It is still God but it is one of the persons of the Trinity fulfilling different functions within the Godhead...

[Ali Imran]

Try telling that to the largest and third largest religion (Hinduism) about your naivety

Hinduism is honest. They believe in a number of Gods and they didn't say they are monotheists.

But Trinitarian Christians are not like that. Trinitarian Christians believe in 3 Gods, but they claim they are monotheist and they cannot explain it. That is why, a great Christian scholar said that it is easier to empty the ocean into a bucket than to explain the Trinity.

[Ali Imran]

It is still God but it is one of the persons of the Trinity fulfilling different functions within the Godhead...

I think I shall not press you further on that.

When I say the Trinity is untenable, it means the Trinity cannot stand up to scrutiny. When pressed, the learned Christians will eventually resort to saying "It is a mystery".

[pinkpanther]

Hinduism is honest. They believe in a number of Gods and they didn't say they are monotheists.

But Trinitarian Christians are not like that. Trinitarian Christians believe in 3 Gods, but they claim they are monotheist and they cannot explain it. That is why, a great Christian scholar said that it is easier to empty the ocean into a bucket than to explain the Trinity.

The concept of the Trinity is straightforward and doesn't require much explanation... It's similar to asking why you have a body, soul, and spirit....it's something God created you to be. You can't possibly have the answer for your own creation

So There's no need to delve deeper, as these are profound mysteries that human minds can't fully answer. What we can do is provide a brief explanation, which is sufficient.

[Lukongsimi]

Light bulb also consists of 3 
Bulb 
Filament 
Electricity 
In order to light up

[pinkpanther]

I think I shall not press you further on that.

When I say the Trinity is untenable, it means the Trinity cannot stand up to scrutiny. When pressed, the learned Christians will eventually resort to saying "It is a mystery".

The concept was accepted by the Hindus and christians and it is a widely accepted...we can see God but you can't ..that why Madhi Abdullah says the moslems are under a curse!

[pinkpanther]

Light bulb also consists of 3 
Bulb 
Filament 
Electricity 
In order to light up

They see things one dimensional only

[Lukongsimi]

The concept was accepted by the Hindus and christians and it is a widely accepted...we can see God but you can't ..that why Madhi Abdullah says the moslems are under a curse!

https://youtube.com/shorts/NFWinTGZq4o?s...aqJ7oVEYmg

[pinkpanther]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NFWinTGZq4o?s...aqJ7oVEYmg

Good find!

Yes, the moslems are under a curse...they are no longer a strong nation