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(25-08-2025, 05:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: God is one in three persons.... therefore, God the Father is also God, but not in His complete fullness. The Godhead, comprising the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit together represents the full fullness of God.
So the Father is not fully 100% God, correct? Is that what you believe?
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(25-08-2025, 05:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So the Father is not fully 100% God, correct? Is that what you believe?
He is 100% divine
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(25-08-2025, 05:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So the Father is not fully 100% God, correct? Is that what you believe?
How do you reconcile the differences?
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(25-08-2025, 05:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: He is 100% divine
But not 100% God?
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(25-08-2025, 06:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: But not 100% God?
everyone is God. One to the power of 3
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(25-08-2025, 06:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: everyone is God. One to the power of 3
You're waffling. You cannot answer a direct question. The reason why you cannot answer is simple. Any answer you give will crumble the Trinity.
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(25-08-2025, 07:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You're waffling. You cannot answer a direct question. The reason why you cannot answer is simple. Any answer you give will crumble the Trinity.
Is the answer not straight forward? Why are you doing the tango? There are no more move from you, it is a stalemate
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(25-08-2025, 08:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Is the answer not straight forward? Why are you doing the tango? There are no more move from you, it is a stalemate
Is the Father fully 100% God?
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(25-08-2025, 08:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is the Father fully 100% God?
Didn't I clarify that? We are a monotheistic religion, and you'll never find any statement indicating that Christians are polytheists.
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(25-08-2025, 09:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Didn't I clarify that? We are a monotheistic religion, and you'll never find any statement indicating that Christians are polytheists.
No, you didn't clarify. You're waffling again.
Is the Father fully 100% God? Yes or no?
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(25-08-2025, 09:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: No, you didn't clarify. You're waffling again.
Is the Father fully 100% God? Yes or no?
They are all God!
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(26-08-2025, 11:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: They are all God!
Are each of them fully 100% God?
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(Yesterday, 07:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Are each of them fully 100% God?
You are just running in circles....how long have you been at it? 1 week already? To others they might think that you are stuck in a trance...
You want to go to the Quran and Hadith if you have nothing else?
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(Yesterday, 07:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: You are just running in circles....how long have you been at it? 1 week already? To others they might think that you are stuck in a trance... 
You want to go to the Quran and Hadith if you have nothing else? 
Are each of them fully 100% God?
I just want a straight answer if you can.
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(Yesterday, 08:14 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Are each of them fully 100% God?
I just want a straight answer if you can.
My answer is as straight as an arrow...what more do you want to extract from it?
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(Yesterday, 08:22 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: My answer is as straight as an arrow...what more do you want to extract from it?
Please humor me.
Are they all individually fully 100% God, yes or no?
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(Yesterday, 08:24 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Please humor me.
Are they all individually fully 100% God, yes or no?
They are God...just like Allah having body parts when He ascribes them to Himself in the Quran...
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(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: They are God...just like Allah having body parts when He ascribes them to Himself in the Quran...
We use a 2-word sentence. "Allah, ahad." In English, "God, one."
We cannot and we do not add anything to that true sentence from Allah, which makes it easy for us to describe Allah to someone, even to a child. Whether God has body parts or not doesn't negate that simple 2-word statement,
You, however, need to add more to that sentence to describe the God you believe in to someone, and when inquisitively questioned, you will waffle.
If I'm not mistaken, you now deny that the Father is fully 100% God. You said He is partly God, and you said He is NOT God in entirety. Is that correct?
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(Yesterday, 04:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: We use a 2-word sentence. "Allah, ahad." In English, "God, one."
We cannot and we do not add anything to that true sentence from Allah, which makes it easy for us to describe Allah to someone, even to a child. Whether God has body parts or not doesn't negate that simple 2-word statement,
You, however, need to add more to that sentence to describe the God you believe in to someone, and when inquisitively questioned, you will waffle.
If I'm not mistaken, you now deny that the Father is fully 100% God. You said He is partly God, and you said He is NOT God in entirety. Is that correct?
How can the Father be partial God when the 3 persons share the same divinity? Even Allah uses plural pronoun in His own words..so are we going to take it that Allah consist of more than one person? It is not very tawhid for Allah to use plurality...
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(Yesterday, 10:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: How can the Father be partial God when the 3 persons share the same divinity? Even Allah uses plural pronoun in His own words..so are we going to take it that Allah consist of more than one person? It is not very tawhid for Allah to use plurality...
When you say the Father is one of the parts that make up God, as exemplified in the body, soul, and spirit parts that make up a human analogy. That's how the Father, according to you, is a partial God.
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(Yesterday, 10:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Even Allah uses plural pronoun in His own words..so are we going to take it that Allah consist of more than one person? It is not very tawhid for Allah to use plurality...
Let's turn to AI for a simple answer.
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(Yesterday, 11:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: When you say the Father is one of the parts that make up God, as exemplified in the body, soul, and spirit parts that make up a human analogy. That's how the Father, according to you, is a partial God.
The body is me, the spirit is me, the soul is me...and there is only one me!
Christian analogy is that the Father is God, the son is God, the spirit is God and there is only one God
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(Yesterday, 11:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Let's turn to AI for a simple answer.
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So, it's acceptable for Allah to be associated with plurality, but not for the Christian God to have a plurality within the Godhead... noted. We can observe the apparent double standards.
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Where is Lksm and ckpm? All busy already?
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: So, it's acceptable for Allah to be associated with plurality, but not for the Christian God to have a plurality within the Godhead... noted. We can observe the apparent double standards.
Let's count God. How many gods do we believe in?
For us, Allah is one. No plurality. That's it.
Now, you. Do you believe the Father is a partial God or fully 100% God? And then the Son. Is he a partial God or fully 100% God? And then the Holy Spirit, same question. Let's count.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: Where is Lksm and ckpm? All busy already? 
Me busy
Useless to debate with a parrot waste time n energy
we have done our part in sharing the gospel
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(9 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: Let's count God. How many gods do we believe in?
For us, Allah is one. No plurality. That's it.
Now, you. Do you believe the Father is a partial God or fully 100% God? And then the Son. Is he a partial God or fully 100% God? And then the Holy Spirit, same question. Let's count.
Let's count you .your body is you, your soul is you, your spirit is also you...so how many you?
God made us in His image...
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(6 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: Let's count you .your body is you, your soul is you, your spirit is also you...so how many you?
God made us in His image...
That's where you're saying the Father is a partial God, not fully 100% God. My body is partial me, my soul is partial me, my spirit is partial me. Together, they make up me.
The partiality of each person of the triune God follows, and together they make up 1 full God. Is that your explanation?