[pinkpanther]

Is there a way to know which verses contain the exact words of Jesus and which ones were words of the authors who expressed what Jesus said using their own words?

God Himself planned that there would be preserved for us a faithful, and true, and infallible writing...

The Bible itself presents us with a doctrine, a teaching, about its own inspiration by God, and its truthfulness and reliability...

[Ali Imran]

God Himself planned that there would be preserved for us a faithful, and true, and infallible writing...

The Bible itself presents us with a doctrine, a teaching, about its own inspiration by God, and its truthfulness and reliability...

So you don't know which verses in the Gospels were the actual words of Jesus and which ones were made to look like Jesus's words.

Okay. We will put this in the vault.

[pinkpanther]

We can refer to Jewish scholars to know who the suffering servants mentioned by Isaiah.

So now you going to forsake Jesus and run to the Jewish scholars for answers?

[pinkpanther]

So you don't know which verses in the Gospels were the actual words of Jesus and which ones were made to look like Jesus's words.

Okay. We will put this in the vault.

The messages of what Jesus said were always in line with the other authors...there was no contradictions.

[pinkpanther]

We can refer to Jewish scholars to know who the suffering servants mentioned by Isaiah.

Remember that if you follow the opinions of the Jewish scholars who also reject Jesus as the messiah than you are a kufir

[Ali Imran]

The messages of what Jesus said were always in line with the other authors...there was no contradictions.

Well, we have the book of Mark in which Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema, but in Matthew, it is not the Shema.

That is a drastically different answer.

[Ali Imran]

Remember that if you follow the opinions of the Jewish scholars who also reject Jesus as the messiah than you are a kufir

I don't follow the book of Isaiah but you do.

The truth is, for thousands of years, the untold many prophets God sent to the Israelites, none of them ever said the suffering servant is God who became a man and was then killed by God's own creation.

[pinkpanther]

Well, we have the book of Mark in which Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema, but in Matthew, it is not the Shema.

That is a drastically different answer.

You talk alot but failed to pinpoint or show me the different answer ...just parroting what anti Christ moslems said!

Is there a change in the core command? The answer is No!

Mark 12:30:
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength". 

Matthew 22:37:
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind".

[Ali Imran]

You talk alot but failed to pinpoint or show me the different answer ...just parroting what anti Christ moslems said!

Is there a change in the core command? The answer is No!

Mark 12:30:
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength". 

Matthew 22:37:
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind".

Why did you leave out the answer in Mark given by Jesus as to which commandment is the most important?

[pinkpanther]

I don't follow the book of Isaiah but you do.

The truth is, for thousands of years, the untold many prophets God sent to the Israelites, none of them ever said the suffering servant is God who became a man and was then killed by God's own creation.

Please demonstrate and support your claim regarding the untold prophets who indicated that the suffering servant is not suppose to be the incarnation of God.....Historically, all previous prophets pointed toward the coming of Jesus, NOT Muhammad. 

 God preserved the Bible, whereas the same cannot be said about the Islamic understanding of God.

I have asked you many questions regarding your own faith in my replies but you seem to ignore and skip them totally .. are you shy to answer them?

[Ali Imran]

I have asked you many questions regarding your own faith in my replies but you seem to ignore and skip them totally .. are you shy to answer them?

This thread is about Christian scriptures.

[Ali Imran]

Please demonstrate and support your claim regarding the untold prophets who indicated that the suffering servant is not suppose to be the incarnation of God.....Historically, all previous prophets pointed toward the coming of Jesus, NOT Muhammad. 

You claimed that Isaiah's suffering servant is talking about God becoming a man, coming to this world to be killed by God's own creation. You need to support your claim, not me.

[Ali Imran]

 God preserved the Bible, whereas the same cannot be said about the Islamic understanding of God.

Maybe you have a different definition of the word "preserved".

[pinkpanther]

Why did you leave out the answer in Mark given by Jesus as to which commandment is the most important?

Matthew focuses on the command to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind without quoting the full shema! Anything wrong?

[pinkpanther]

You claimed that Isaiah's suffering servant is talking about God becoming a man, coming to this world to be killed by God's own creation. You need to support your claim, not me.

Jesus is the living example of my support! He fulfilled the prophecies in the book of Isaiah...you cannot even show me who Isaiah was referring to..

[pinkpanther]

Maybe you have a different definition of the word "preserved".

No! Maybe your eyesights have failed you terribly that you can't see that Christianity has been the largest religion due to God's will and part of His will is in the Book that He preserved

[Ali Imran]

Matthew focuses on the command to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind without quoting the full shema! Anything wrong?

Nothing wrong if you feel the Shema is not the most important commandment. And the author of Matthew felt the same way, that the Shema is not the most important commandment. 

Jesus, however, said the Shema is the most important commandment.

[Ali Imran]

No! Maybe your eyesights have failed you terribly that you can't see that Christianity has been the largest religion due to God's will and part of His will is in the Book that He preserved

My eyesight is fine. I can read what the honest Christian scholars are saying about the Bible, that it is corrupted.

[Lukongsimi]

Matthew focuses on the command to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind without quoting the full shema! Anything wrong?

He is hitting an egg against a stone 
Lost so many times in debate still stubborn n stiff neck

[Ali Imran]

Jesus is the living example of my support! He fulfilled the prophecies in the book of Isaiah...you cannot even show me who Isaiah was referring to..

Do you follow the examples given by Jesus?

[Lukongsimi]

My eyesight is fine. I can read what the honest Christian scholars are saying about the Bible, that it is corrupted.

Use your brain not depends on man teachings

[Lukongsimi]

Nothing wrong if you feel the Shema is not the most important commandment. And the author of Matthew felt the same way, that the Shema is not the most important commandment. 

Jesus, however, said the Shema is the most important commandment.

If you love the world n not God what is the use?
So the greatest commandment is Love God 
I remember u ever said u don’t love God

[pinkpanther]

He is hitting an egg against a stone 
Lost so many times in debate still stubborn n stiff neck

He gave up on the Trinity so he decides to try something else ...but when I ask him about his Islam and Muhammad..he keeps quiet choosing not to reply

[Lukongsimi]

No! Maybe your eyesights have failed you terribly that you can't see that Christianity has been the largest religion due to God's will and part of His will is in the Book that He preserved

He can see but his heart is not willing  to accept

[Ali Imran]

He gave up on the Trinity so he decides to try something else ...but when I ask him about his Islam and Muhammad..he keeps quiet choosing not to reply

Give up what? We already agree that you believe in one God, which consists of 3 Gods.

[Lukongsimi]

He gave up on the Trinity so he decides to try something else ...but when I ask him about his Islam and Muhammad..he keeps quiet choosing not to reply

He don’t know the answers and act as if he is knowledgeable

[pinkpanther]

Nothing wrong if you feel the Shema is not the most important commandment. And the author of Matthew felt the same way, that the Shema is not the most important commandment. 

Jesus, however, said the Shema is the most important commandment.

We already have Mark quoting the shema, Matthew emphasizing the shema ..but you expect them to be word for word the same ..

If they are word for word the same, you will then say it is fabricated, just copy and paste...  some people are just hard to please..

[Lukongsimi]

Give up what? We already agree that you believe in one God, which consists of 3 Gods.

But u don’t believe n u mocks

[pinkpanther]

He don’t know the answers and act as if he is knowledgeable

 yes...he can provide us the question but he has no answers of his own to counter our arguments

[pinkpanther]

Give up what? We already agree that you believe in one God, which consists of 3 Gods.

So you want to persist on after weeks of your futile attempts