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(19-09-2025, 10:10 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: They still say they don follow the Jewish laws because they are gentiles but also follow their law to potong.... 
double standard lah
Say one thing do another
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(18-09-2025, 09:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: How come your Koran don’t have Jesus most important commandment ?
short of ink or forget to copy?
Yes ..why the Quran don have the most important commandment
Why Quran don have hear O Israel, your lord is our god?
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(19-09-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The shema is in both the books abeit differences in the style of writings
In Mark, Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema.
In Matthew, Jesus said it is to love God.
So which one is correct?
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(19-09-2025, 10:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Mark, Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema.
In Matthew, Jesus said it is to love God.
So which one is correct?
The answers were already given so many times don’t be a parrot!
Or are u suffering from dementia ?
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(19-09-2025, 10:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Nothing wrong...different style in writings
In Mark, Jesus's answer means Jesus is not God.
In Matthew, the answer was changed.
Which book gives the correct answer?
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(19-09-2025, 10:12 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Yes ..why the Quran don have the most important commandment
Why Quran don have hear O Israel, your lord is our god?
Because the Quran is for all of mankind, not just Israel.
Say: Allah is one - Quran 112:1
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(19-09-2025, 10:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Because the Quran is for all of mankind, not just Israel.
Say: Allah is one - Quran 112:1
Why Koran written only in Arabic ?
We have different languages in the world
Should have Chinese Tamil Japanese etc language as well
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(19-09-2025, 10:20 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Mark, Jesus's answer means Jesus is not God.
In Matthew, the answer was changed.
Which book gives the correct answer?
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(19-09-2025, 10:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Because the Quran is for all of mankind, not just Israel.
Say: Allah is one - Quran 112:1
The Bible is for man kind...the Quran needs to go to the Bible so that mankind can know in depths..
The most important commandment is all the same..love your god with heart , soul , strength and mind.. but why can't I find this in the Quran?
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(19-09-2025, 10:20 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Mark, Jesus's answer means Jesus is not God.
In Matthew, the answer was changed.
Which book gives the correct answer?
Jesus did not say he was God in all the books...but he makes many claims to be God
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(19-09-2025, 10:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The Bible is for man kind...the Quran needs to go to the Bible so that mankind can know in depths..
The most important commandment is all the same..love your god with heart , soul , strength and mind.. but why can't I find this in the Quran?
The foremost commandment in Islam is "God is one".
In the book of Mark, Jesus said the foremost commandment is "God is one". But in Matthew, the foremost commandment is "Love God".
Why did Matthew or Mark changed the answer given by Jesus? You cannot say it is a translation because they are quoting the words of Jesus, putting them within quotation marks.
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(19-09-2025, 10:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Jesus did not say he was God in all the books...but he makes many claims to be God
In Mark, Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? There is none good but God alone". Jesus denies he is God. But in Matthew, the words of Jesus was changed.
So which book is giving us to correct words of Jesus? You don't know, do you?
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(19-09-2025, 10:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: The foremost commandment in Islam is "God is one".
In the book of Mark, the foremost commandment is "God is one". But in Matthew, the foremost commandment is "Love God".
Why did Matthew or Mark changed the answer given by Jesus? You cannot say it is a translation because they are quoting the words of Jesus, putting them within quotation marks.
Why do you think he needs to change the answer? Everyone has their own way of expressing..Matthew got the shema right from Moses..Hear, Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul...he did emphasize on the 2nd half...
Your Islamic shema is already different from the OT and the NT...so why does Muhammad not follow the most important commandment by uttering the exact shema... remember the shema must always remain the same..
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(19-09-2025, 10:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Mark, Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? There is none good but God alone". Jesus denies he is God. But in Matthew, the words of Jesus was changed.
So which book is giving us to correct words of Jesus? You don't know, do you?
Matthew said And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul
Muhammad said your lord is one...so you think Muhammad can get away with incompetency?
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(19-09-2025, 10:59 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Why do you think he needs to change the answer? Everyone has their own way of expressing..Matthew got the shema right from Moses..Hear, Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul...he did emphasize on the 2nd half...
In Matthew, the answer given by Jesus doesn't contain the Shema.
Either Mark or Matthew gives us the wrong info about Jesus's answer. Which one?
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(19-09-2025, 11:01 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Matthew said And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul
Yes, that's what Matthew said about the most important commandment, which is significantly different from Mark.
So which is the correct one? You don't know, do you?
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(19-09-2025, 11:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Matthew, the answer given by Jesus doesn't contain the Shema.
Either Mark or Matthew gives us the wrong info about Jesus's answer. Which one?
You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind"
that is Matthew's shema
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One".
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
Moses's shema.
Matthew's shema is only missing the first half but he does emphasize the 2nd part which is more important
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(19-09-2025, 11:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, that's what Matthew said about the most important commandment, which is significantly different from Mark.
So which is the correct one? You don't know, do you?
Matthew only emphasizing the 2nd half...is that the shema! Yes!
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(19-09-2025, 11:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind"
that is Matthew's shema
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One".
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
Moses's shema.
Matthew's shema is only missing the first half but he does emphasize the 2nd part which is more important
Yes, in Matthew, the most important is to love God. But in Mark, the most important is to proclaim that God is one.
Why was it changed? That's my question. You cannot say its an interpretation because they both quoted Jesus.
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(19-09-2025, 11:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, that's what Matthew said about the most important commandment, which is significantly different from Mark.
So which is the correct one? You don't know, do you?
All of the books are correct but Muhammad does not preach the shema and emphasize to love God with heart, soul and mind...
Muhammad only emphasize that God is one
He failed to preach love bro....only a different entity will teach him to fight and hate the Jews and christians
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(19-09-2025, 11:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Matthew only emphasizing the 2nd half...is that the shema! Yes!
No, it is not the Shema.
To love God may apply to Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Athena, Ganesh, Brahma, Vishnu, and others, which will negate the Shema.
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(19-09-2025, 11:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, in Matthew, the most important is to love God. But in Mark, the most important is to proclaim that God is one.
Why was it changed? That's my question. You cannot say its an interpretation because they both quoted Jesus.
Where was it changed? One was a disciple while the other was not...they both have the core messages of the shema correct abeit different writing styles...
Did Muhammad get the most important commandment correct? Absolutely no!
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(19-09-2025, 11:14 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: No, it is not the Shema.
To love God may apply to Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Athena, Ganesh, Brahma, Vishnu, and others, which will negate the Shema.
It is the shema, exactly what Moses said
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(19-09-2025, 11:12 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: All of the books are correct
How can you say all the books are correct when they are significantly different? I gave you two examples already about the words of Jesus. There are other examples I can bring forth.
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(19-09-2025, 11:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: It is the shema, exactly what Moses said
But Matthew didn't include the Shema.
Why? Is it because at the time of Matthew, they believed in 2 Gods? Is that why Matthew removed the Shema?
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(19-09-2025, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Where was it changed? One was a disciple while the other was not...they both have the core messages of the shema correct abeit different writing styles...
I already gave you two examples of the changes found in Mark and Matthew.
And again, you cannot say it is a writing style because they both quoted the words of Jesus.
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