Posts: 17,416
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 4,324 in 3,948 posts
Likes Given: 3,606
(26-09-2025, 07:22 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Just like that rich man who left in sorrows after Jesus told him to sell his possessions lah! 
Rich man obeyed all the commandments but Jesus told him if want to be perfect sell his properties n give to the poor to inherit 100 times more treasure in heaven
Rich man left in despair as he was very rich
The rich is like a camel gg thru the eye of a needle to enter heaven
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
>
Posts: 9,604
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 260 in 250 posts
Likes Given: 80
(26-09-2025, 08:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Hebrews 1:1 already said that not even an angel can be seated next to God and that is literally what it says
Hebrews 1:13 quotes God asking: "To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'?". This rhetorical question emphasizes that God has never granted such a position of honor, authority, and ultimate conquest to any angel.
Pentecost happened 50 days after the ascension. That was when Peter spoke to the congregation. Hebrews was written long after that, by a few decades, directly opposing the Jewish tradition of the metaphoric "at the right hand of God", which signifies a position of honor, a position that God can grant to others besides Jesus. Btw, the Quran (3:45) affirms Jesus's position of honor using the Jewish tradition, that he will be in a position of honor in the hereafter, and the metaphor for that position in the Jewish tradition is "sitting at the right hand of God".
But you seem to say it is not metaphorical but literal. So, if you see Jesus, who is God, and to his left is the Father, who is God, how many Gods do you see?
Posts: 14,690
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 3,310 in 3,009 posts
Likes Given: 11,586
(26-09-2025, 08:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Rich man obeyed all the commandments but Jesus told him if want to be perfect sell his properties n give to the poor to inherit 100 times more treasure in heaven
Rich man left in despair as he was very rich
The rich is like a camel gg thru the eye of a needle to enter heaven
Jesus told him, "One thing you need to do..." but he couldn't do that lah!

Will you do that leh?
Posts: 13,589
   
Threads: 201
    
Likes Received: 3,162 in 2,780 posts
Likes Given: 1,950
(26-09-2025, 10:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Pentecost happened 50 days after the ascension. That was when Peter spoke to the congregation. Hebrews was written long after that, by a few decades, directly opposing the Jewish tradition of the metaphoric "at the right hand of God", which signifies a position of honor, a position that God can grant to others besides Jesus. Btw, the Quran (3:45) affirms Jesus's position of honor using the Jewish tradition, that he will be in a position of honor in the hereafter, and the metaphor for that position in the Jewish tradition is "sitting at the right hand of God".
But you seem to say it is not metaphorical but literal. So, if you see Jesus, who is God, and to his left is the Father, who is God, how many Gods do you see?
Ok. After looking deeper into that. It is a metaphor.
Who says it is a Jewish metaphor? It is a Christian concept
The "Session of Christ" is the Christian theological doctrine that Jesus, after his ascension, is now seated at the right hand of God the Father in Heaven, signifying his permanent authority, honor, and completed work as King and Lord over the cosmos and the Church.
The word "session" is an archaic term for "sitting," and the concept is found in Christian creeds, particularly the Apostles' Creed, and is described in the Bible as a position of supreme power and rule.
Posts: 17,416
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 4,324 in 3,948 posts
Likes Given: 3,606
(27-09-2025, 06:37 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: Jesus told him, "One thing you need to do..." but he couldn't do that lah!
Will you do that leh? 
Me not very rich leh

Will you give up your wealth also?
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
>
(This post was last modified: 27-09-2025, 08:19 AM by
Lukongsimi.)
Posts: 9,604
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 260 in 250 posts
Likes Given: 80
(27-09-2025, 07:31 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Ok. After looking deeper into that. It is a metaphor.
Who says it is a Jewish metaphor? It is a Christian concept
The "Session of Christ" is the Christian theological doctrine that Jesus, after his ascension, is now seated at the right hand of God the Father in Heaven, signifying his permanent authority, honor, and completed work as King and Lord over the cosmos and the Church. The word "session" is an archaic term for "sitting," and the concept is found in Christian creeds, particularly the Apostles' Creed, and is described in the Bible as a position of supreme power and rule.
The Jewish people were already using it before there were Christians.
So, you cannot show me anywhere in Acts where Peter later corrected his statement that Jesus was a man. You made a claim and you cannot prove it.
Posts: 17,416
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 4,324 in 3,948 posts
Likes Given: 3,606
(27-09-2025, 09:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: The Jewish people were already using it before there were Christians.
So, you cannot show me anywhere in Acts where Peter later corrected his statement that Jesus was a man. You made a claim and you cannot prove it.
U can’t even prove your Koran while Bible got no fake to prove
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
>
Posts: 13,589
   
Threads: 201
    
Likes Received: 3,162 in 2,780 posts
Likes Given: 1,950
(27-09-2025, 09:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: The Jewish people were already using it before there were Christians.
So, you cannot show me anywhere in Acts where Peter later corrected his statement that Jesus was a man. You made a claim and you cannot prove it.
Jesus was a man.who says he isnt
(This post was last modified: 27-09-2025, 09:50 AM by
pinkpanther.)
Posts: 17,416
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 4,324 in 3,948 posts
Likes Given: 3,606
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
>
Users browsing this thread: 30 Guest(s)