Singapore and US reaffirm defence ties
29-03-2022, 05:56 PM
I hope Biden will not ask Sg to help Ukraine fight!
29-03-2022, 06:09 PM
29-03-2022, 08:11 PM
(29-03-2022, 05:55 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: This is Joe Biden war part for Europe and for NATO
This Intense fighting raged in Biden framed the fight, as part of the Joe historic struggle for democratic freedoms in major address from Poland as he concluded his European trip aimed at bolstering Western resolve.
https://youtu.be/Lim0O1lgZUM
29-03-2022, 08:18 PM
29-03-2022, 08:25 PM
This is Joe Biden war part for Europe and for NATO
This Intense fighting raged in Biden framed the fight, as part of the Joe historic struggle for democratic freedoms in major address from Poland as he concluded his European trip aimed at bolstering Western resolve.
This Intense fighting raged in Biden framed the fight, as part of the Joe historic struggle for democratic freedoms in major address from Poland as he concluded his European trip aimed at bolstering Western resolve.
29-03-2022, 08:29 PM
29-03-2022, 08:38 PM
(29-03-2022, 08:18 PM)cityhantam Wrote: If that happens, we will seeChina's nuclear submarine here! Singapore.
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S'pore continues to support US military presence in Asia as it's 'critical' to peace in region: PM Lee
The two countries share excellent defence ties.
Kayla Wong
29-03-2022, 08:40 PM
(29-03-2022, 08:38 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: China's nuclear submarine here! Singapore.![]()
S'pore continues to support US military presence in Asia as it's 'critical' to peace in region: PM Lee
The two countries share excellent defence ties.
Kayla Wong
https://mothership.sg/2022/03/singapore-...ence-asia/
29-03-2022, 08:47 PM
(29-03-2022, 08:40 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: https://mothership.sg/2022/03/singapore-...ence-asia/By the time Biden came, the damage to US reputation was already very extensive.
To make matters worse, Biden further compounded the problem by his abandonment of Afghanistan and now Ukraine which pretty much destroyed whatever security proposition the US can offer.
The US and Singapore
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29-03-2022, 08:55 PM
29-03-2022, 09:35 PM
(29-03-2022, 08:40 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: https://mothership.sg/2022/03/singapore-...ence-asia/
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/so...ns-2592391
29-03-2022, 10:13 PM
(29-03-2022, 05:34 PM)maxsanic Wrote: Yes the way US behaves is analogous to its life cycle as a global superpower. In the 1980s the US was more restrained as it had to compete with Soviet Union for influence. The US offered two main value propositions to all its allies - 1) security and 2) economic development.
After the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991, there was no longer a strong viable enemy and at the same time US also reached its pinnacle of power. This meant that the original security proposition had toned down and was replaced by even more economic opportunities and benefits from globalization and technology boom. During this time, it behaved belligerently hammering anyone who disagrees knowing full well the victim cannot fight back and all its allies will just pretend to go along as long as the goodies continued.
Then came the rise of China and subsequent gradual erosion of US prestige. The US was initially complacent as they wrongly equated free market with democracy, even till the late 2000s many were still believing that China would either collapse if it failed to do political reforms (voting) or it would become just like them and continue to prosper. Starting from 2010, murmurs of China threat began and US started to take the China challenge much more seriously.
They first attempted to repeat the same formula by hyping up the China military threat and offering their "security" to other countries. Singapore's SCS saga and attempt to instigate ASEAN countries to join in took place under this backdrop. Unfortunately for them, China was not Soviet Union and was pretty much tightly integrated economically to most countries in the world. This combined with its role as a global factory and infrastructure powerhouse meant many countries were willing to take the "security risk" in exchange for economic growth and politely rejected US. Singapore's SCS humiliation is one of the many similar outcomes taking place around the world at that time.
Then came Trump and the US consensus that China is enemy #1 and no pretense otherwise. Trump tried a few economic tactics such as trade war, technology blockade and combined them with Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese shiit stirring. Unfortunately for the same reasons as above, all its allies simply paid lip service and refused to do anything tangible. This further eroded US prestige and more developing countries gained confidence to openly reject to go along with US.
By the time Biden came, the damage to US reputation was already very extensive. To make matters worse, Biden further compounded the problem by his abandonment of Afghanistan and now Ukraine which pretty much destroyed whatever security proposition the US can offer. The US is now alone without allies beyond rhetoric and forced to compete with China in areas in which it lacks opportunity and expertise - that of infrastructure, trade and social development. Things are not looking good and that is why I question how long Singapore can continue this LKY legacy foreign policy.
Now, you should notice US current big strategy/plan is to degobalise. US will do whatever they can to make it happen. It actually started from Obama by TPP to isolate China , followed by Trump’s Trade War and now Biden by creating conflict between Russia and EU.
Luckily they dare not pick China and ROC.
What are the reasons, any guess?
Globalisation has no longer benefited US.
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Currently, China will do whatever they can to stop US plan. So far, China is still doing a good job by remaining as neutral party and did not fall into the trap.
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
31-03-2022, 11:00 AM
(29-03-2022, 10:13 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote: Now, you should notice US current big strategy/plan is to degobalise. US will do whatever they can to make it happen. It actually started from Obama by TPP to isolate China , followed by Trump’s Trade War and now Biden by creating conflict between Russia and EU.
Luckily they dare not pick China and ROC.
What are the reasons, any guess?
Globalisation has no longer benefited US.
Currently, China will do whatever they can to stop US plan. So far, China is still doing a good job by remaining as neutral party and did not fall into the trap.
Yea, this is yet another area where US has no advantage and is yet forced to compete with China one on one. The reason why US championed globalization was that it was essentially a maximum return plus divide and conquer strategy.
1) Economically globalization meant US companies could focus on the best margin areas of business and its corporations made easy money. Similarly, by outsourcing to different tiers of countries below them allows the US consumers to enjoy goods cheap with minimal inflation.
2) Another seldom mentioned but equally important aspect of globalization is that it's actually a divide and conquer strategy. Building up a global economic structure in a highly niche way whereby every country plays a narrow and specific part in the global supply chain ensures that no single country can overturn this order as they need the cooperation of both upstream and downstream countries in order to survive.
In a nutshell, globalization enables US to extract maximum economic benefits while maintaining a tight grip on all other countries as they exist as silos and cannot challenge this economic order with US at the top. So what has changed?
China.
China pretty much replicated the entire global supply chain network to a large extent within its domestic economy. It might not be the best in every niche and industry compared to other countries, but it is the only country that is able to compete across the entire economic spectrum from high end to low end. The synergies of having almost an entire value added chain within one country ended up becoming a supra-advantage that no other country can match even if in small and limited areas they do better.
To combine with its integrated supply ecology, the burgeoning middle class created a mega consumer market demand for finished goods comparable to that of the US. What this means is capital across the world continues to pour in either to produce goods/services in China or to sell goods/services to China. Lower tech countries that sell stuff like commodities, energy, agricultural products etc. need to sell ever larger quantities to feed the global factory, mid-high tier countries like precision engineering, tech manufacturing etc. need to sell their expertise to enhance the global factory, high end services providers like banking, consumer brands etc. need to sell to Chinese consumers to maintain growth.
That is precisely why US cannot find a single real ally to take on China despite having a large bunch of them on paper. They have inadvertently all become economic satellites of China whether willingly or reluctantly. The trade war started by Trump and continued by Biden which has now more less ended without much ado is further proof of this.
The US realizes the gains it can derive from globalization has been eroded significantly and it is only a matter of time before the entire setup becomes net detrimental to its national interest. That is why they are now trying to bring back manufacturing, blockade technology, subsidizing national champion companies and whacking friend and foe alike with trade barriers even if it means sacrificing whatever goodwill and reputation it has built up over the decades.
The US is economically under siege. Priority #1 is to defend the castle, they have neither ability nor willingness to care about any so called allies already. The allies know this, so they all pay lip service of solidarity to use as a leverage to negotiate for better terms with China.
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