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(29-05-2023, 11:12 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: Your logic is wrong, speaking proper English is the basic requirement at school for many countries let alone HK and Spore that used to be British colonies for 100 over years. You will not lose your Chinese root for speaking good English, even many mainland Chinese such as Jack Ma can speak very good English.
Even though some Sporeans are poor in English, that is due their education level, highly educated Sporeans are able to speak proper English with Spore accent or flavour.
The case of Hong Kong is entirely different, majority of HKers are unable to speak a sentence of English without mixing with Cantonese words, their pronunciation is terrible as nobody outside HK can understand. Many HKers generally look down on non-Cantonese speaking Chinese including mainland Chinese, Taiwanese and Sporeans. On the other hand they think they are British citizens, they are one level up than other Chinese. That is why many HKers protest in 2019 hoping to become independent from China…since 2029 144,500 HKers who are holding BNOs left HK and moved yo Britain. As you can see HKers have no Chinese root and are ashamed to be ruled under China.
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I am curious about 4 things u mentioned...
a. Over 100 over years of colonisation, how many of those years were non-Whites in HK or SG being treated as equal by the Brit, let alone being provided education ?
b. Indeed English language is the key to economy and industrial growth - but how to do u explain Japanese, Korean and yes Chinese rapid rise in living standard and industrialisation where the English-lang is hardly a "basic requirement at school" ?
c. Why do you say "Many HKers generally look down on non-Cantonese speaking Chinese..."
d. What is EXACTLY are the points u are making with those images ?
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(29-05-2023, 11:31 PM)Manthink Wrote: I am curious about 4 things u mentioned...
a. Over 100 over years of colonisation, how many of those years were non-Whites in HK or SG being treated as equal by the Brit, let alone being provided education ?
b. Indeed English language is the key to economy and industrial growth - but how to do u explain Japanese, Korean and yes Chinese rapid rise in living standard and industrialisation where the English-lang is hardly a "basic requirement at school" ?
c. Why do you say "Many HKers generally look down on non-Cantonese speaking Chinese..."
d. What is EXACTLY are the points u are making with those images ?
You should ask HKers all these questions, they have twisted colonial mindset even if they know HKers were 2nd class citizens under British rule they enjoyed it. This is not the case in Spore.
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(30-05-2023, 12:09 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: You should ask HKers all these questions, they have twisted colonial mindset even if they know HKers were 2nd class citizens under British rule they enjoyed it. This is not the case in Spore.
I am not asking about HKies "twisted colonial mindset"...
In fact, aside from c, rest of my questions is about your comments...S\o why aren't you able to clarify those ?
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(29-05-2023, 11:12 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: Your logic is wrong, speaking proper English is the basic requirement at school for many countries let alone HK and Spore that used to be British colonies for 100 over years. You will not lose your Chinese root for speaking good English, even many mainland Chinese such as Jack Ma can speak very good English.
Even though some Sporeans are poor in English, that is due their education level, highly educated Sporeans are able to speak proper English with Spore accent or flavour.
The case of Hong Kong is entirely different, majority of HKers are unable to speak a sentence of English without mixing with Cantonese words, their pronunciation is terrible as nobody outside HK can understand. HKers generally look down on non-Cantonese speaking Chinese including mainland Chinese, Taiwanese and Sporeans. On the other hand they think they are British citizens, they think they are above all other Chinese. That is why many HKers protested in 2019 hoping to HK becomes independent from China…since 2019 144,500 HKers who are holding BNOs left HK and moved to Britain. As you can tell HKers have no Chinese root and are ashamed to be ruled under China…they love their colonial master.
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Agreed with you lah!
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Like it or not, English is our 1st language since kindergarten lah!
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(30-05-2023, 06:09 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: Agreed with you lah!
Like it or not, English is our 1st language since kindergarten lah!
Can lah. But dong speak like hongkan lah
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In the 80s and 90s, they looked down ppl from mainland China, now what happen?
Become 港灿 。
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