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(Yesterday, 07:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: 
They can't even defend their faith let alone brain wash us... For Islam to be the number 1 religion..they will do what it takes...but the true God will not let it happen
Their choice can’t be help lol
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(Yesterday, 07:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Yes...John 17:3 has already confirmed that Allah is a false God...so they should go and question their beliefs 
I have pasted John 17:3 here. Where does it say Allah is false god?
If Jesus is true God, just give the description of your promised heaven.
In John 17:3, Jesus states, "And this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent". This verse defines eternal life as knowing God and Jesus Christ, whom God sent.
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(Yesterday, 07:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: They can't even defend their faith let alone brain wash us... For Islam to be the number 1 religion..they will do what it takes...but the true God will not let it happen
If your religion is true, Just give the description of your promised heaven.
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(Yesterday, 07:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: now ah Hope tired to explain Liao..he just post Lily Jay videos enough liao
Lily Jay breaking fast with Muslim Ambassadors in Taiwan.
https://youtu.be/y5QmHftiP2Y?si=pEaRIiIVnEOCccw-
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Christian testimony
I didn’t think there was any other religion
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“Then I looked, and there was a large crowd of people. There were so many people that no one could count them all. They were from every nation, tribe, race of people, and language of the earth. They were standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They all wore white robes and had palm branches in their hands. They shouted loudly, “Victory belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” The elders and the four living beings were there. All the angels were standing around them and the throne. The angels bowed down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God. They said, “Amen! Praise, glory, wisdom, thanks, honor, power, and strength belong to our God forever and ever. Amen!” Then one of the elders asked me, “Who are these people in white robes? Where did they come from?” I answered, “You know who they are, sir.” And the elder said, “These are the ones who have come out of the great suffering. They have washed their robes with the blood of the Lamb, and they are clean and white. So now these people are before the throne of God. They worship God day and night in his temple. And the one who sits on the throne will protect them. They will never be hungry again. They will never be thirsty again. The sun will not hurt them. No heat will burn them. The Lamb in front of the throne will be their shepherd. He will lead them to springs of water that give life. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.””
Revelation 7:9-17 ERV
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(12-03-2025, 05:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Perhaps SimTan can tell me why he too rejects the words of Jesus who said the true God is only 1 person. I understand SimTan also believes God is 3 persons, which goes against what Jesus said.
Hallo pengyu, John 17:3 is one of your strongest counterclaims about the deity of Christ. In it Jesus prayed to the Father, saying, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." This does not mean the Son is not truly God. He said the Father is the only true God, but He didn't say that only the Father is God. The same type of literary expression appears elsewhere in the Bible. For instance, when "only Noah" doesn't intend to exclude his family (Gen 7:23; John 8:9).
In John 10:34, Jesus said "Ye are gods." However, He meant this in a derivative sense, not in an absolute sense. In a similar vein, Jesus was God only in a derivative sense. This misunderstands the nature of the argument. Jesus's argument here is a fortiori (with the greater force). If human judges can be called gods (Ps 82) - in that they stand in the place of God in a derivative sense - how much more can the Son of God be called God who is God in an absolute sense.
Please read John 1:1,2; 8:58; 20:28; Rom 9:5; Heb 1:8 for further affirmation that Jesus is God who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation (Col 1:15). The Bible must be read in its totality to be properly understood.
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(Yesterday, 11:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Who taught this prayer?
(Yesterday, 01:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Can you find this prayer in your scriptures?
I don't blame you for not being able to fully comprehend our type of prayer said to a living, personal God, which isn't based on recitation or chant but one in the intimacy of a father-child relationship. LKSM has given a lovely specimen of the sinner's prayer which I suppose is a first in SGtalk. Below is another specimen from yours truly whenever tough times come and the going is rough. God's promise to never leave or forsake us is absolutely true and reliable. I know whereof I speak.
Christ, my Lord, thank you for the gift of life, robust constitution, intellect, good memories and daring dreams. Thank you, Lord, for the problems that make me more dependent on You for guidance and strength. I know I do not have the ability. I'm totally dependent upon You. If You do not anoint me, if You do not inspire me, if You do not strengthen me, I cannot do it.
When I've turned to You in the past, You have given me strength and skills I needed. And You fill me with a living hope that no trouble can destroy, no fear can disturb. Thank you for taking me as I am with all my human weaknesses and using me for your glory. Anoint me with Your Holy Spirt that I may know what to say and do. May my countenance, words, and actions communicate my caring. Make me a good listener and enable me to hear what people are expressing beneath what they're saying.
Most of all, remind me of the power of intercessory prayer. May I claim Your best for people as I pray for them. Especially I pray for those with whom I disagree on issues. Help me to see them not as enemies but as people who will help sharpen my edge. Lift me above petty attitudes or petulant gossip. Fill this day with Your presence, and my heart with Your magnanimous attitude toward others. I commit my life into Your capable hands. In Your all-powerful Name, risen, reigning Christ. Amen.
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(Today, 01:30 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: Hallo pengyu, John 17:3 is one of your strongest counterclaims about the deity of Christ. In it Jesus prayed to the Father, saying, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." This does not mean the Son is not truly God. He said the Father is the only true God, but He didn't say that only the Father is God. The same type of literary expression appears elsewhere in the Bible. For instance, when "only Noah" doesn't intend to exclude his family (Gen 7:23; John 8:9).
In John 10:34, Jesus said "Ye are gods." However, He meant this in a derivative sense, not in an absolute sense. In a similar vein, Jesus was God only in a derivative sense. This misunderstands the nature of the argument. Jesus's argument here is a fortiori (with the greater force). If human judges can be called gods (Ps 82) - in that they stand in the place of God in a derivative sense - how much more can the Son of God be called God who is God in an absolute sense.
Please read John 1:1,2; 8:58; 20:28; Rom 9:5; Heb 1:8 for further affirmation that Jesus is God who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation (Col 1:15). The Bible must be read in its totality to be properly understood.
Hello. Welcome back bro.
When the verse says "only begotten son", Christians want it to be only. But when the verse says "only true God", Trinitarian Christians want it to mean something else.
You're just 2nd guessing what Jesus meant, to fit the Trinitarian narrative. St Augustine said he would rather Jesus said that verse differently.
We will discuss this further. I am short on time now.
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(Today, 01:48 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: I don't blame you for not being able to fully comprehend our type of prayer said to a living, personal God, which isn't based on recitation or chant but one in the intimacy of a father-child relationship. LKSM has given a lovely specimen of the sinner's prayer which I suppose is a first in SGtalk. Below is another specimen from yours truly whenever tough times come and the going is rough. God's promise to never leave or forsake us is absolutely true and reliable. I know whereof I speak.
Christ, my Lord, thank you for the gift of life, robust constitution, intellect, good memories and daring dreams. Thank you, Lord, for the problems that make me more dependent on You for guidance and strength. I know I do not have the ability. I'm totally dependent upon You. If You do not anoint me, if You do not inspire me, if You do not strengthen me, I cannot do it.
When I've turned to You in the past, You have given me strength and skills I needed. And You fill me with a living hope that no trouble can destroy, no fear can disturb. Thank you for taking me as I am with all my human weaknesses and using me for your glory. Anoint me with Your Holy Spirt that I may know what to say and do. May my countenance, words, and actions communicate my caring. Make me a good listener and enable me to hear what people are expressing beneath what they're saying.
Most of all, remind me of the power of intercessory prayer. May I claim Your best for people as I pray for them. Especially I pray for those with whom I disagree on issues. Help me to see them not as enemies but as people who will help sharpen my edge. Lift me above petty attitudes or petulant gossip. Fill this day with Your presence, and my heart with Your magnanimous attitude toward others. I commit my life into Your capable hands. In Your all-powerful Name, risen, reigning Christ. Amen.
I asked those 2 questions because no prophets ever taught such a prayer and the scriptures don't have such a prayer. It was concocted after Jesus, by people who wanted Jesus to be God.
No prophets of God ever prayed to a Triune God or taught such a concept. Never ever. Even St Paul, which as you know I am critical of, never taught the Trinity. In fact, at St Paul's time, Jesus hadn't become God yet.
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Jesus makes it very clear His Father is the true God so Islam is a false religion...that moslem dug his own grave when he goes to John 17:3
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