[S I M T A N]

So it is true that you do not know our faith and yet you make statements as though you know. There are tons of verses in the Quran stating "Verily, those who have attained faith and do good works...". So you're wrong to say that (in bold). It is not by accident that a student of Jesus pbuh also said the same, that we must have faith and we must work on faith in the hope that our Lord will admit us into Paradise and protect us from the Fire. I don't have to tell you who is that student.

Have you read anything about Prophet Muhammad's teachings found in our Hadith? No. But yet you speak as though you know. That is dishonesty.

Yes, Jesus did say the true God is only 1 person. It is foolish to argue with me on that point. According to your creed, the Father is 1 person. So when Jesus said the Father is the only true God, that also means only 1 person is the true God.

Please tell me the context of John 17:3 where Jesus pointed to the Father as the ONLY true God.

I've long since come to the conclusion that people believe what they want to believe, regardless of whatever evidence is put before them. This seems particularly true in this instance in which you misused this word in an attempt to disclaim Jesus as God. This is one of the most common distortions of our faith. You need to realize that no item of Christian belief can be considered in isolation. Different doctrines tend to be interconnected, each affecting a number of others or being affected by them. Interpretations are checked by believers to ensure they're true to Scripture as a whole and not just "proved" by quoting texts, esp out of context.

You know full well that our kind of "faith" - justification by faith through Christ - isn't the kind professed in Islam. Since the time of Abraham, God has accepted faith in lieu of good deeds and credited it to a believer's account as "righteousness" (Gen 15:6; Rom 4:5). But what is faith? Is it something you think with your mind or feel in your heart? Surprisingly, it's more to do with the will. It's something you do.

I know that profession of faith and practice of faith have often been taught in Islam. My understanding is that the way to gain salvation includes reciting the creed, praying 5 times a day toward Mecca, fasting one month a year, giving one-fortieth of their income, and make the pilgrimage once in their lifetime to Mecca. Muslims who faithfully practice these go to heaven, and those who do not will go to hell. Working out their salvation is seen as working for their salvation. All seems well and good except for the fact that they've not been "born again."

For Christian believers holding on firmly to their belief in Jesus as the Son of God, who's fully divine as well as fully human, the gospel is a "freebie" ticket for heaven. We prefer to think of the kingdom of heaven as a welfare state based on hand-outs. In "justification," we're set free from the penalty of sin. In "sanctification," we're set free from the power of sin. Those "born-again" are given a new nature that share divine immortality.

[S I M T A N]

After Jesus's ascension, did any of the disciples teach people at the temple, which they frequent, that Jesus is God? The answer is no.

The disciples calling Jesus God directly and attributing to Him the titles of Deity are too numerous to mention. Here are some: Thomas saw His wounds and cried, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28). Paul calls Jesus the one whom "all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form (Col 2:9). In Titus 2:13, Jesus is called "our great God and Savior, and the writer to the Hebrews 1:8 says of Him, "Your throne, O God, is forever. Paul says that before Christ existed in the "likeness of men," which clearly refers to being really human, He existed in the "form of God" (Phil 2:5-8). The parallel phrases reveal that Jesus was fully human as well as fully God. A similar phrase (Col 1:15) "the image of the invisible God" is used to mean the manifestation of God Himself. This description is also stated in Heb 1:1-3

[Hope]

https://youtu.be/cTFmmyaD3Dc?si=FB0OJnYe3Gk8jlMp

[pinkpanther]

THE RULING FOR MARRIAGE BETWEEN HUMAN AND JINN

https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/en/artikel/ir...n-and-jinn

[pinkpanther]

Does Sharia apply to moslem Jinn couple?

[Lukongsimi]

THE RULING FOR MARRIAGE BETWEEN HUMAN AND JINN

https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/en/artikel/ir...n-and-jinn

What is that? Marriage with  fallen angels ?

[Hope]

https://youtu.be/ED1EtSz9Bes?si=15c5fluPiRst6OPO

[Hope]

https://youtu.be/G85Sr-1EP7g?si=Hy3F5aMZvoG6ITbP

[Hope]

Who is Lucifer's father in the Bible?

Family

God (father)🤣🤣 👌✌️👍
Amenadiel (brother) 
Azrael (sister) 
Michael (twin brother) 
Uriel (brother) 
Remiel (sister) 
Gabriel (brother) 
Zadkiel (brother) 
Raphael (brother) 
Various angels (siblings) 
Charlie (nephew)

Spouse

Lilith Morningstar (ex-wife of Adam)🤣🤣👍✌️👌

Lilith is a powerful sorceress in the Madō Monogatari series, where she was the wife of Satan until she lost her physical body when using the artifact known as Seraphim Orb to create the Madou World, of which she is now the guardian. She is also very similar to the protagonist Arle


Who gave birth to Lilith in the Bible?

According to the "first Eve" story Lilith was created by God from dust and placed to live in the garden with Adam until problems arose between Adam and Lilith when Adam tried to exercise dominance over Lilith.

Are Lilith and Eve the same person?

Some theological scholars acknowledge Lilith as the "first Eve" while others still see her as a demoness.

In rabbinic literature Lilith is variously depicted as the mother of Adam's demonic offspring following his separation from Eve or as his first wife

Did Adam have two wives?🤣
According to a legend in the Midrash Genesis Rabba, three wives were created for Adam.

[Lukongsimi]

Years ago, I discovered the Ahmadiyyas, a Muslim sect that originated in Pakistan in the late 1800s. I was struck by how similar this community was to the Latter Day Saint movement (often called Mormons). The patterns are remarkable:

• Both began in the 19th century.
  

• Both saw their founders as prophets even though the larger tradition they came from considered prophethood as something confined to the past.
  

• Both communities continue to have a single global leader (called a prophet by the Mormons and a caliph by the Ahmadiyyas).
  

• Both founders saw themselves as a continuation or even culmination of the larger tradition.
  

• Both communities have faced persecution. Early Mormons were evicted from Missouri (even killed) and their founder, Joseph Smith, was later killed by a mob. Ahmadiyyas have faced persecution in Pakistan where they are currently barred from calling themselves Muslims, from attending the pilgrimage to Mecca, or even using the Muslim greeting of “peace be with you.”
  

• Mormons and Ahmadiyyas consider themselves Christians and Muslims respectively, but many in those broader traditions see these folks as heretics and thus not as “real” Christians or Muslims.
  

• Both are very proselytory movements and went global very fast (Ahmadiyyas are in over 200 countries). Each movement now numbers between 10 and 20 million members.
  

Of course, not everything is the same. The Mormon founder brought a completely new text (the Book of Mormon) which has no parallel for the Ahmadiyyas. Uniquely, the Ahmadiyyas believe their founder is the future figure they see promised in so many traditions (the second coming of Christ, the Buddha Maitreye, the return of Krishna). They also claim that all religions originally taught the same message but diverged due to later distortions. As a result, they see their tradition as the culmination and unification of those many diverse religions, a teaching that echoes the Bahá’í faith, another 19th century movement that emerged out of Islam, this time from Iran.
As Ahmadiyyas continue to suffer persecution, they have become strong advocates of religious freedom. In Ontario, Canada where I live, they have sponsored an interfaith conference for 40 years. They have a large presence in Canada (including the country’s largest mosque in Calgary) where they seek the right to practice their faith freely.

[Lukongsimi]

The fallen angels who married and commenced unnatural unions with human woman n taught forbidden Knowledge as from goggle 
🤫

[Hope]

Can someone explain this verse to me?



In John 8:44] You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him

[Lukongsimi]

Whoever Against the bible your father is the devil Satan!
Can marry jinn?

[Ali Imran]

The disciples calling Jesus God directly and attributing to Him the titles of Deity are too numerous to mention. Here are some: Thomas saw His wounds and cried, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28). Paul calls Jesus the one whom "all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form (Col 2:9). In Titus 2:13, Jesus is called "our great God and Savior, and the writer to the Hebrews 1:8 says of Him, "Your throne, O God, is forever. Paul says that before Christ existed in the "likeness of men," which clearly refers to being really human, He existed in the "form of God" (Phil 2:5-8). The parallel phrases reveal that Jesus was fully human as well as fully God. A similar phrase (Col 1:15) "the image of the invisible God" is used to mean the manifestation of God Himself. This description is also stated in Heb 1:1-3

The question is specific. Did any of the disciples, like Peter, ever teach people at the temple that Jesus is God? The answer is no. That alone should negate the notion that Jesus is God because none of the students of Jesus were teaching people that. 

Btw, Thomas made an exclamation. He didn't say Jesus is his God. You must remember that the people of that time and place were already introduced to the almighty God because they already had plenty of prophets and messengers sent to them with revelations. They already knew that God cannot be seen by the human eyes and they have been told in the scriptures that God is not a man.

[Hope]

Did Jesus die for the sins of mankind?

Adam had three wives 🤣Which wife fed him the apple?

Very interesting 🥰😍😘 I started to learn the book of 40 plus writers

In John 8:40, Jesus states, "But now you are trying to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this," implying his accusers are acting contrary to the example of Abraham. 


😳😭
In John 8:44] You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him.

Do you find the contradiction ?

[Ali Imran]

Whoever Against the bible your father is the devil Satan!
Can marry jinn?

Can jinn mingle with humans and have sexual relations with them, according to the Bible?

[Lukongsimi]

Go wrong path still want to challenge?
Save your energy lah
Gostan

[Hope]

Whoever Against the bible your father is the devil Satan!
Can marry jinn?

Lucifer has married Adam’s ex wife.🤣Your God has created three wives for Adam 😳.But you have problems with Muslims marrying four.

Was Adam horny to have three wives?

Which wife fed Adam the apple?

Is Lucifer marrying a human okay for you?

Very interesting 😘I love both of you. You are making me a scholar in the book written by 40 plus writers ✍️

[cheekopekman]

Go wrong path still want to challenge?
Save your energy lah
Gostan

Don't force people to accept what they reject lah!  You also don't like to be forced mah!

[Lukongsimi]

Don't force people to accept what they reject lah!  You also don't like to be forced mah!

They are forcing me to accept what is not right 
I only warn them
How about u? No chap them?

[Hope]

Don't force people to accept what they reject lah!  You also don't like to be forced mah!

Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”Quran 2:256

[pinkpanther]

What is that? Marriage with  fallen angels ?

Marriage with fallen angels produce nephilim and they were all destroyed during the flood ..

The islamic Jinns are different 
The jinn are from three groups. The first group has wings and can fly in the air, the second group is in the form of snake and dog while the third group leads a nomadic lifestyle (just like the Bedouins)

The Quran even have one chapter dedicated to the Jinns...

What kind of of ruling needs to be affirm for Jinn and human marriage when there is no evidences of any marriage...the whole thing is a joke ...The Bible does not see the needs to emphasize or expand this nonsense about Jinn...

[Lukongsimi]

Marriage with fallen angels produce nephilim and they were all destroyed during the flood ..

The islamic Jinns are different 
The jinn are from three groups. The first group has wings and can fly in the air, the second group is in the form of snake and dog while the third group leads a nomadic lifestyle (just like the Bedouins)

The Quran even have one chapter dedicated to the Jinns...

What kind of of ruling needs to be affirm against Jinn and human mariage when there is no evidences of any marriage...the whole thing is a joke ...The Bible does not see the needs to emphasize or expand this nonsense about Jinn...

Terrible marry snakes?
No nonsenses as such in the bible.

Got some more nonsenses do post here 😂

[pinkpanther]

Lucifer has married Adam’s ex wife.🤣Your God has created three wives for Adam 😳.But you have problems with Muslims marrying four.

Was Adam horny to have three wives?

Which wife fed Adam the apple?

Is Lucifer marrying a human okay for you?

Very interesting 😘I love both of you. You are making me a scholar in the book written by 40 plus writers ✍️

Is Adam Moslem? Allah said 4 wives at most to each man but he allows 11 wives to Muhammad? Did he break God's law...does God break His own laws? You moslems support him and attributed unfairness and injustice towards Allah ...be warn on judgement day my friend

[pinkpanther]

Terrible marry snakes?
No nonsenses as such in the bible.

The Bible does not have time for these pagan talks

[pinkpanther]

Years ago, I discovered the Ahmadiyyas, a Muslim sect that originated in Pakistan in the late 1800s. I was struck by how similar this community was to the Latter Day Saint movement (often called Mormons). The patterns are remarkable:

• Both began in the 19th century.
  

• Both saw their founders as prophets even though the larger tradition they came from considered prophethood as something confined to the past.
  

• Both communities continue to have a single global leader (called a prophet by the Mormons and a caliph by the Ahmadiyyas).
  

• Both founders saw themselves as a continuation or even culmination of the larger tradition.
  

• Both communities have faced persecution. Early Mormons were evicted from Missouri (even killed) and their founder, Joseph Smith, was later killed by a mob. Ahmadiyyas have faced persecution in Pakistan where they are currently barred from calling themselves Muslims, from attending the pilgrimage to Mecca, or even using the Muslim greeting of “peace be with you.”
  

• Mormons and Ahmadiyyas consider themselves Christians and Muslims respectively, but many in those broader traditions see these folks as heretics and thus not as “real” Christians or Muslims.
  

• Both are very proselytory movements and went global very fast (Ahmadiyyas are in over 200 countries). Each movement now numbers between 10 and 20 million members.
  

Of course, not everything is the same. The Mormon founder brought a completely new text (the Book of Mormon) which has no parallel for the Ahmadiyyas. Uniquely, the Ahmadiyyas believe their founder is the future figure they see promised in so many traditions (the second coming of Christ, the Buddha Maitreye, the return of Krishna). They also claim that all religions originally taught the same message but diverged due to later distortions. As a result, they see their tradition as the culmination and unification of those many diverse religions, a teaching that echoes the Bahá’í faith, another 19th century movement that emerged out of Islam, this time from Iran.
As Ahmadiyyas continue to suffer persecution, they have become strong advocates of religious freedom. In Ontario, Canada where I live, they have sponsored an interfaith conference for 40 years. They have a large presence in Canada (including the country’s largest mosque in Calgary) where they seek the right to practice their faith freely.

Ahmadis, Mormons and Islam have strayed afar from Christianity....if they get their core beliefs right..we welcome them back to christianity 

[Ali Imran]

I've long since come to the conclusion that people believe what they want to believe, regardless of whatever evidence is put before them. 

Right back at you.

[Ali Imran]

I've long since come to the conclusion that people believe what they want to believe, regardless of whatever evidence is put before them. This seems particularly true in this instance in which you misused this word in an attempt to disclaim Jesus as God. This is one of the most common distortions of our faith. You need to realize that no item of Christian belief can be considered in isolation. Different doctrines tend to be interconnected, each affecting a number of others or being affected by them. Interpretations are checked by believers to ensure they're true to Scripture as a whole and not just "proved" by quoting texts, esp out of context.

You know full well that our kind of "faith" - justification by faith through Christ - isn't the kind professed in Islam. Since the time of Abraham, God has accepted faith in lieu of good deeds and credited it to a believer's account as "righteousness" (Gen 15:6; Rom 4:5). But what is faith? Is it something you think with your mind or feel in your heart? Surprisingly, it's more to do with the will. It's something you do.

I know that profession of faith and practice of faith have often been taught in Islam. My understanding is that the way to gain salvation includes reciting the creed, praying 5 times a day toward Mecca, fasting one month a year, giving one-fortieth of their income, and make the pilgrimage once in their lifetime to Mecca. Muslims who faithfully practice these go to heaven, and those who do not will go to hell. Working out their salvation is seen as working for their salvation. All seems well and good except for the fact that they've not been "born again."

For Christian believers holding on firmly to their belief in Jesus as the Son of God, who's fully divine as well as fully human, the gospel is a "freebie" ticket for heaven. We prefer to think of the kingdom of heaven as a welfare state based on hand-outs. In "justification," we're set free from the penalty of sin. In "sanctification," we're set free from the power of sin. Those "born-again" are given a new nature that share divine immortality.

Yes, I am clear that you are a follower of Paul and you reject James and Jesus pbuh. Both James and Jesus taught that one must obey the commandments.

What Paul taught (sola fide) was rejected by the council led by James. What I would like you to know is the admission of being in the wrong by Paul. He was made to take the Nazarite vow. When Paul already admitted to being wrong for teaching the Jews that they no longer need to follow the commandments, why are you still following him?

[Ali Imran]

I know that profession of faith and practice of faith have often been taught in Islam. My understanding is that the way to gain salvation includes reciting the creed, praying 5 times a day toward Mecca, fasting one month a year, giving one-fortieth of their income, and make the pilgrimage once in their lifetime to Mecca. Muslims who faithfully practice these go to heaven, and those who do not will go to hell. Working out their salvation is seen as working for their salvation. All seems well and good except for the fact that they've not been "born again."

Cool. You already know the 5 pillars of Islam. Next, you need to know the 6 articles of faith. 

Both tenets are agreed upon by all Muslims. That shows we are not confused about our religion. Everything is laid out clearly and they are logical and rational. There is nothing in our faith that requires us to believe in something that the mind cannot comprehend, like the Trinity.

Born again? As soon as one repents, or one converts to Islam, one is born again. Ask my fellow Muslim Hope here. He converted to Islam and as soon as he accepted Islam, he became like a baby, with no sins, or in your terminology, born again.

[Ali Imran]

I know that profession of faith and practice of faith have often been taught in Islam. My understanding is that the way to gain salvation includes reciting the creed, praying 5 times a day toward Mecca, fasting one month a year, giving one-fortieth of their income, and make the pilgrimage once in their lifetime to Mecca. Muslims who faithfully practice these go to heaven, and those who do not will go to hell. Working out their salvation is seen as working for their salvation. All seems well and good except for the fact that they've not been "born again."

That is false. 

Our salvation depends on the mercy of Allah. We obey Allah's commandments and do good deeds which Allah loves, all in the hope that Allah will have mercy on us.

Allah may be merciful to somebody who never prays 5 times a day or fasts in Ramadan. That is Allah's prerogative.