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(18-03-2025, 05:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  they love their muh more than God lah

They are saying the wrong shahada everyday..the devil taught thêm that because it never come from their God .

Who took a recite of Shahada for Muhammad (PBUH)?
Nobody, because what you called Shahada was not in the Quran and could not be from Muhammads who testified V 46:9 & V 6:19 that he wasn't different from other prophets and there is only one God.

Shahada is half true and half misleading. There is only one God, that is what all the prophets stood upon.

Muhammad is his messenger is against the Quran, Yes, he was one of the messengers V 2:252 and not different V 46:9.

Allah prevail on all his messengers V 58:21 and warned against separating them, V 4:136,150,151, V 57:19.

FALSEHOOD OF SHAHADA.

[Quran 2:252] These are God's revelations, which We recite to you in truth. YOU ARE ONE OF THE MESSENGERS.

[Quran 46:9] Say, "I am not different from the other messengers; and I do not know what will be done with me, or with you. I only follow what is inspired in me, and I am only a clear warner.

[Quran 58:21] God has written: "I WILL CERTAINLY PREVAIL, I AND MY MESSENGERS." God is Strong and Mighty.(not only with the first or the last)

[Quran 4:150] THOSE WHO disbelieve in God and His messengers, and WANT TO SEPARATE BETWEEN GOD AND HIS MESSENGERS, and say, "We believe in some, and reject some," and wish to take a path in between. [Quran 4:151] These are the unbelievers, truly. We have prepared for the unbelievers a SHAMEFUL PUNISHMENT. (Don't you read the Quran that shameful punishment awaits those who separate the messengers?)

[Quran 57:19] THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS MESSENGERS —these ARE THE SINCERE and the witnesses with their Lord; they will have their reward and their light. But as for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations—these ARE THE INMATES OF THE BLAZE. (Why are you been insincere and working to be inmates of the blaze?)

Muhammad in the Quran testified like other prophets and believers of one God V 6:19.

[Quran 6:19] Say, "What thing is more solemn in testimony?" Say, "God is Witness between you and me. This Quran was revealed to me, that I may warn you with it, and whomever it may reach. Do you indeed testify that there are other gods with God?" Say, "I myself do not testify." Say, "HE IS BUT ONE GOD, AND I AM INNOCENT OF YOUR IDOLATRY.

ADDITION OF MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER IS IDOLATRY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO USE V 2:252 MUHAMMAD WAS ONE OF HIS MESSENGERS.
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Now I know why Allah doesnt show up....
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“Father, you are the one who always does what is right. The world does not know you, but I know you, and these followers of mine know that you sent me. I showed them what you are like, and I will show them again. Then they will have the same love that you have for me, and I will live in them.””
‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭25‬-‭26‬ ‭ERV‬‬

Jesus is talking about love from the Father which the followers will have.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-03-2025, 05:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They are saying the wrong shahada everyday..the devil taught thêm that because it never come from their God .

Who took a recite of Shahada for Muhammad (PBUH)?
Nobody, because what you called Shahada was not in the Quran and could not be from Muhammads who testified V 46:9 & V 6:19 that he wasn't different from other prophets and there is only one God.

Shahada is half true and half misleading. There is only one God, that is what all the prophets stood upon.

Muhammad is his messenger is against the Quran, Yes, he was one of the messengers V 2:252 and not different V 46:9.

Allah prevail on all his messengers V 58:21 and warned against separating them, V 4:136,150,151, V 57:19.

FALSEHOOD OF SHAHADA.

[Quran 2:252] These are God's revelations, which We recite to you in truth. YOU ARE ONE OF THE MESSENGERS.

[Quran 46:9] Say, "I am not different from the other messengers; and I do not know what will be done with me, or with you. I only follow what is inspired in me, and I am only a clear warner.

[Quran 58:21] God has written: "I WILL CERTAINLY PREVAIL, I AND MY MESSENGERS." God is Strong and Mighty.(not only with the first or the last)

[Quran 4:150] THOSE WHO disbelieve in God and His messengers, and WANT TO SEPARATE BETWEEN GOD AND HIS MESSENGERS, and say, "We believe in some, and reject some," and wish to take a path in between. [Quran 4:151] These are the unbelievers, truly. We have prepared for the unbelievers a SHAMEFUL PUNISHMENT. (Don't you read the Quran that shameful punishment awaits those who separate the messengers?)

[Quran 57:19] THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS MESSENGERS —these ARE THE SINCERE and the witnesses with their Lord; they will have their reward and their light. But as for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations—these ARE THE INMATES OF THE BLAZE. (Why are you been insincere and working to be inmates of the blaze?)

Muhammad in the Quran testified like other prophets and believers of one God V 6:19.

[Quran 6:19] Say, "What thing is more solemn in testimony?" Say, "God is Witness between you and me. This Quran was revealed to me, that I may warn you with it, and whomever it may reach. Do you indeed testify that there are other gods with God?" Say, "I myself do not testify." Say, "HE IS BUT ONE GOD, AND I AM INNOCENT OF YOUR IDOLATRY.

ADDITION OF MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER IS IDOLATRY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO USE V 2:252 MUHAMMAD WAS ONE OF HIS MESSENGERS.
Confirm wrong path, the big n broad way to destruction!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-03-2025, 05:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Now I know why Allah doesnt show up....

Cos they worship a dead man !

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-03-2025, 05:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Cos they worship a dead man !

Yes...idolatry!
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(18-03-2025, 05:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Confirm wrong path, the big n broad way to destruction!

Clapping Clapping you say it best..
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Quran 3:18 states, "Allah bears witness that there is no god but He, and so do the angels and people of knowledge, upholding justice; there is no god but He, the Exalted, the Wise." 

The above is the Shahada....Hello moslems, why attribute Bidah and injustice to Allah by mentioning Muhammad? Did Muhammad ask to put his name in?

Who teach you to follow what is wrong?  Big Grin
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(18-03-2025, 07:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Quran 3:18 states, "Allah bears witness that there is no god but He, and so do the angels and people of knowledge, upholding justice; there is no god but He, the Exalted, the Wise." 

The above is the Shahada....Hello moslems, why attribute Bidah and injustice to Allah by mentioning Muhammad? Did Muhammad ask to put his name in?

Who teach you to follow what is wrong?  Big Grin

They cant answer u lah go hiding lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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“Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-03-2025, 08:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  They cant answer u lah go hiding lah

Why don't you ask SimTan to ask me all those questions your ignoramus friend is asking?

I'd be glad to answer them and you will see from my answers that Islam is the true religion of the almighty God.
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(18-03-2025, 08:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  They cant answer u lah go hiding lah

This fellow knows nothing about Islam...he is a fake moslem just following those who told him to do so...
Let us expose that fake shahada!

Adding "Wa Muhammadur Rasul Allah" to the Shahada introduces a specific partner to God, regardless of any qualifying statements, such as "And Muhammad is His human slave who is not God in any way." Even with these qualifications, you are still introducing an additional entity into the Declaration of Faith—a declaration that is meant to free you from all Shirk (polytheism). The purpose of the Shahada is to affirm the Oneness of God and to declare that He has no partners or associates. By adding another name, you are, in effect, contradicting the very statement you just made by associating another entity with God.
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In other passages of the New Testament, we find the real Shahadah:

1 Corinthians 8:4: "So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that 'An idol is nothing at all in the world' and that 'There is no God but one.'"

And the Old Testament as well:

Deuteronomy 4:35: You have been taught that the LORD alone is God--there is no other besides him.

This is the Shahadah:

To affirm that there is no God but God Alone

2. To affirm that there is no other besides him in partnership or association.
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So sorry moslems you have committed shirk and associated partners with Allah....
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(18-03-2025, 09:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This fellow knows nothing about Islam...he is a fake moslem just following those who told him to do so...
Let us expose that fake shahada!

Adding "Wa Muhammadur Rasul Allah" to the Shahada introduces a specific partner to God, regardless of any qualifying statements, such as "And Muhammad is His human slave who is not God in any way." Even with these qualifications, you are still introducing an additional entity into the Declaration of Faith—a declaration that is meant to free you from all Shirk (polytheism). The purpose of the Shahada is to affirm the Oneness of God and to declare that He has no partners or associates. By adding another name, you are, in effect, contradicting the very statement you just made by associating another entity with God.

Faked moslem trying to teach us how to worship God 
Blind leading the non blind lol
He doesn’t know the Bible or the Koran well
if he found the truth today he is a Christian Liao

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-03-2025, 09:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Faked moslem trying to teach us how to worship God 
Blind leading the non blind lol
He doesn’t know the Bible or the Koran well
if he found the truth today he is a Christian Liao

Our Bible mentions The Holy Spirit close to 100 times but the Quran just refer The Holy Spirit as Angel  Gabriel...

Big Grin Why Muhammad did not check with previous scriptures to see that the Quran is in line? Obviously he is making it up as he goes along
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(18-03-2025, 10:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Our Bible mentions The Holy Spirit close to 100 times but the Quran just refer The Holy Spirit as Angel  Gabriel...

Big Grin Why Muhammad did not check with previous scriptures to see that the Quran is in line? Obviously he is making it up as he goes along
Not interested in their chaparang religion but know something makes me aware

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(18-03-2025, 06:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can you see the difference between "your sins are forgiven" and "I forgive your sins"? Jesus, according to the Gospels, said the former but not the latter. A Pharisee assumed the latter and you went along with the Pharisee.

There is another place where the Christians sided with the Pharisees instead of Jesus. It is when the Pharisees accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Many times in my discourse with Christians, they will use that altercation in trying to prove Jesus is God. They sided with the Pharisees, forgetting that Jesus refuted the Pharisees's accusation. 

Why can't Christians see that? The answer is cognitive dissonance.

(18-03-2025, 06:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It doesn't affect me even the slightest that you worship the son of Mary, a human. I don't need to tolerate anything. I like arguing for the truth and I believe I have truth on my side.

All, and I really mean all, Christians will have difficulty grasping the concept of the Trinity. St Jerome said, in one of his homilies, that it is easier to empty the ocean into a bucket than to explain the Trinity. If you think you understand the Trinity, that means you are not employing critical thinking. I can prove that to you with critical questions, but not using this forum where you only come in once every 24 hours, which makes it tedious and we lose the momentum of the discourse. If you can be here in the day, we can have a rapid back-and-forth, an intensive discourse.

I sleep at night.


For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.
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(19-03-2025, 01:26 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.

Well explained lah, bro! Big Grin
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(18-03-2025, 08:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why don't you ask SimTan to ask me all those questions your ignoramus friend is asking?

I'd be glad to answer them and you will see from my answers that Islam is the true religion of the almighty God.

SIMTAN knows the Bible better than me lah! Big Grin
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(19-03-2025, 01:26 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.

Plenty for me to rebut. I will take my time to do that.

For now, I just wanna say I find it strange that you worship a man/God who was practicing a religion that is a whole lot different from Christianity. If Jesus is God to you, I would think you would want to be practicing a religion that your God is practicing but that is not the case.

Do you find that ironic? I do.
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Islam has no place in a modern World unless it can tone down the violent stuff in the Quran, otherwise it will remain incompatible with the modern, civilized World...

Blasphemy ( Not Compatible )

Polygamy ( Not Compatible )

Child Marriages ( Not Compatible )

Sharia law ( Not Compatible )

Female mutilation ( Not Compatible )

Forced Conversion ( Not Compatible )

Honor killing ( Not Compatible )

Sexual Slavery ( Not Compatible )

Female Infanticide ( Not Compatible )

Forbid female education (Not Compatible)

Intolerance to other religion ( Not Compatible)

Murder in the name of allah ( Not Compatible )
Intolerance to pork, alcohol ( Not Compatible)

Intolerance to music ( Not Compatible )

Triple talaq ( Not Compatible )

Nikah halala ( Not Compatible )

Barred from dating ( Not Compatible )

Turning Public places and Famous tourists attractions into mosques ( Not Compatible)

Hijab, Burqa, Niqabs, abaya ( Not Compatible )

Mosque noise ( Not Compatible )

Morality police for enforcing hijab laws (Not Compatible)
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We don’t have a problem with the Moslems..It’s the Moslems that have a problem with anyone who is not Moslems..... Wink
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We worship a man/ God but you worship a weak God who can't even preserve and show us on what Jesus said...

The Quran itself claims that Jesus himself foretold Muhammad's coming, saying, "children of Israel, I am sent to you by God, confirming the Torah that came before me and bringing good news of a messenger to follow me whose name will be Ahmad" (61:6)

Where is this important piece of information? Lost? Corrupted? You moslems can only give excuses but have nothing to stand on Big Grin

1400 years and yet no evidences....either a weak God or a great scam...
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(19-03-2025, 09:43 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Islam has no place in a modern World unless it can tone down the violent stuff in the Quran, otherwise it will remain incompatible with the modern, civilized World...

Blasphemy ( Not Compatible )

Polygamy ( Not Compatible )

Child Marriages ( Not Compatible )

Sharia law ( Not Compatible )

Female mutilation ( Not Compatible )

Forced Conversion ( Not Compatible )

Honor killing ( Not Compatible )

Sexual Slavery ( Not Compatible )

Female Infanticide ( Not Compatible )

Forbid female education (Not Compatible)

Intolerance to other religion ( Not Compatible)

Murder in the name of allah ( Not Compatible )
Intolerance to pork, alcohol ( Not Compatible)

Intolerance to music ( Not Compatible )

Triple talaq ( Not Compatible )

Nikah halala ( Not Compatible )

Barred from dating ( Not Compatible )

Turning Public places and Famous tourists attractions into mosques ( Not Compatible)

Hijab, Burqa, Niqabs, abaya ( Not Compatible )

Mosque noise ( Not Compatible )

Morality police for enforcing hijab laws (Not Compatible)
That mosiem dare not answer u directly he needs Sim Tan shelter 
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-03-2025, 01:26 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.

Busy bee is ok but not busybodies like the 2 moslems 😊

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-03-2025, 10:10 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We worship a man/ God but you worship a weak God who can't even preserve and show us on what Jesus said...

The Quran itself claims that Jesus himself foretold Muhammad's coming, saying, "children of Israel, I am sent to you by God, confirming the Torah that came before me and bringing good news of a messenger to follow me whose name will be Ahmad" (61:6)

Where is this important piece of information? Lost? Corrupted? You moslems can only give excuses but have nothing to stand on Big Grin

1400 years and yet no evidences....either a weak God or a great scam...

Ahmad is who?
Coming anti christ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-03-2025, 09:45 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We don’t have a problem with the Moslems..It’s the Moslems that have a problem with anyone who is not  
Yap
They Cant stand the words in the Bible 
Refuse to accept the truth 
So they haven’t been set free 
No matter how they are rebellious 
Rebellious is under witchcraft 
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-03-2025, 11:16 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  That mosiem dare not answer u directly he needs Sim Tan shelter 
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He claimed that his faith has instilled fearlessness in him, but I think he is still ball less.. Big Grin He relies on SimTan for validation of his conduct, and so far, no one has stepped up to support him. Big Grin He's looking for recognition and love in this forum because his God and religion have offered him none...
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(19-03-2025, 11:23 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Ahmad is who?
Coming anti christ?

Ahmad is Muhammad...The Quran says we can find the name Ahmad in our Bible .. Big Grin but till now still cannot find...
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