[pinkpanther]

Yap
They Cant stand the words in the Bible 
Refuse to accept the truth 
So they haven’t been set free 
No matter how they are rebellious 
Rebellious is under witchcraft 
😊

Yes... Satan had them under his control..they must ask Jesus to free them or they will be stuck in this malicious cycle

[Lukongsimi]

Ahmad is Muhammad...The Quran says we can find the name Ahmad in our Bible ..  but till now still cannot find...

The Bible already completed 2,000 years ago n waiting for Jesus return n how to rewrite again ?
Bull sheet lah

[Lukongsimi]

He claimed that his faith has instilled fearlessness in him, but I think he is still ball less.. He relies on SimTan for validation of his conduct, and so far, no one has stepped up to support him. He's looking for recognition and love in this forum because his God and religion have offered him none...

Yes he is balless threatened me with screen shot 
Some old  people usually no gut they fight with their mouth only 
If he wanted to find love he should believe the Bible is love from God
Lol

[pinkpanther]

Yes he is balless threatened me with screen shot 
Some old  people usually no gut they fight with their mouth only 
If he wanted to find love he should believe the Bible is love from God
Lol

Yes...he still have plenty of time to think it through... Christianity suits him best since he is constantly seeking for love and recognition....there is no way he can find it in Islam. Islam can only offer sadness, loneliness and emptiness.....

[Ali Imran]

For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.

If Jesus is God, why would he say what he said in John 17:3 and cause people to doubt that he is God? 

If Jesus is God, why would he deny the accusation of the Pharisees who accused him of claiming to be God?

If Jesus is God, why didn't he say so clearly, like the Father did in Isaiah 45: "I am God, and there is no other?" 

Why play games with people's salvation? Is he a cruel god?

Those are called critical questions, and you will have them if you employ critical thinking.

I've been told that Christians are not encouraged to do critical thinking about their faith. Do you agree?

[pinkpanther]

Don't be foolish... Do you really need Jesus to explicitly say He is God in order to believe it? Using your reasoning and referring to the Quran, is Jesus referred to as the Word of God? Is He considered the Messiah? Please show me where Jesus say that He is the Messiah or the Word of God.

[Lukongsimi]

Don't be foolish... Do you really need Jesus to explicitly say He is God in order to believe it? Using your reasoning and referring to the Quran, is Jesus referred to as the Word of God? Is He considered the Messiah? Please show me where Jesus say that He is the Messiah or the Word of God.

The king also no need to tell public he is a king whenever he is out tio BOH 
Queen Elizabeth visited other countries did she told people hey look! I m the queen bow down?
Even when Moses asked God who are you to tell the people 
God answered “I am that I am “never told Moses go tell people I m God 
when Jacob wrestled with God n asked His name
God asked Jacob why u want to know my name “I am who I am.
Even when people knocked my house door asked who is the owner 
I also told them owner not in,even I m the owner.
People asked me what car I driving I told them I take mrt.
This is humble,God hates the Proud.😊

[Ali Imran]

The king also no need to tell public he is a king whenever he is out tio BOH 
Queen Elizabeth visited other countries did she told people hey look! I m the queen bow down?
Even when Moses asked God who are you to tell the people 
God answered “I am that I am “never told Moses go tell people I m God 
when Jacob wrestled with God n asked His name
God asked Jacob why u want to know my name “I am who I am.
Even when people knocked my house door asked who is the owner 
I also told them owner not in,even I m the owner.
People asked me what car I driving I told them I take mrt.
This is humble,God hates the Proud.😊

Why did the Father identify himself over and over again?

I am the Lord and there is no other. Apart from me, there is no God. - Isaiah 45

I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. - Isaiah 42 

I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me - Isaiah 46

[Lukongsimi]

So you agreed the true God is in the Holy Bible.
lol

[Ali Imran]

So you agreed the true God is in the Holy Bible.
lol

Yes, agree. I worship the God of Isaac and Jacob, peace be upon them.

[pinkpanther]

The king also no need to tell public he is a king whenever he is out tio BOH 
Queen Elizabeth visited other countries did she told people hey look! I m the queen bow down?
Even when Moses asked God who are you to tell the people 
God answered “I am that I am “never told Moses go tell people I m God 
when Jacob wrestled with God n asked His name
God asked Jacob why u want to know my name “I am who I am.
Even when people knocked my house door asked who is the owner 
I also told them owner not in,even I m the owner.
People asked me what car I driving I told them I take mrt.
This is humble,God hates the Proud.😊

 well said bro

[pinkpanther]

So you agreed the true God is in the Holy Bible.
lol

Very Good...so he agrees that he worships The Father, Yahweh...see he just committed Shirk...Allah can never be a Father in any sense 

[Lukongsimi]

Moslem said worship same God as in the bible n how come their teachings entirely different?

[Lukongsimi]

Very Good...so he agrees that he worships The Father, Yahweh...see he just committed Shirk...Allah can never be a Father in any sense 

Amazing! moslem worship Yahweh not allah 😊

[Ali Imran]

Amazing! moslem worship Yahweh not allah 😊

There is only 1 God, the God of  Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Zechariah, and Jesus. More importantly, none of them ever worshiped a triune God and they all never taught the idea of a triune God.

Peace and blessings be upon them.

[pinkpanther]

Moslem said worship same God as in the bible n how come their teachings entirely different?

You raise an excellent point: why are their teachings so different, and why does God require His followers to learn Arabic in order to understand Him? 

God did not directly reveal the Quran to Muhammad; it has been altered and is therefore considered unreliable, as Satan influenced Muhammad to propagate falsehoods about the Quran.... Don forget Muhammad and the satanic verses

[Lukongsimi]

You raise an excellent point: why are their teachings so different, and why does God require His followers to learn Arabic in order to understand Him? 

God did not directly reveal the Quran to Muhammad; it has been altered and is therefore considered unreliable, as Satan influenced Muhammad to propagate falsehoods about the Quran.... Don forget Muhammad and the satanic verses

Lucifer wanted to be higher than God n was kicked out of heaven
If Koran is for the world should be in understandable words
Our Bible also got Chinese edition
How about theirs?

[Lukongsimi]

Christians believe the trinity
No way the moslem can falsify it
U don’t believe we care?

[Ali Imran]

Christians believe the trinity
No way the moslem can falsify it
U don’t believe we care?

Yes, I know you believe God is a Trinity. 

I'm just telling you that none of the previous biblical prophets, including Jesus, ever worshiped a triune God. They also didn't teach a triune God to the people.

I bet you would not want to know how God eventually became 3. But if you do, I will be glad to show you the history. It is already well documented.

[Ali Imran]

Lucifer wanted to be higher than God n was kicked out of heaven
If Koran is for the world should be in understandable words
Our Bible also got Chinese edition
How about theirs?

I can send you a translation of the Quran in Mandarin if you want. There is also French. Or German. Or Bahasa Indo. Or Japanese. Or Korean.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus taught Trinity...only the fool does not see...Matthew 28:19-20

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Can you cast a demon away in the name of Allah, Muhammad and Jibril? No! You can only cast away a demon with the name of the most high which is the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit...

And Yes...this proved that Jesus taught the Trinity..thank you

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/h9JWyhGJ0aU

[pinkpanther]

Lucifer wanted to be higher than God n was kicked out of heaven
If Koran is for the world should be in understandable words
Our Bible also got Chinese edition
How about theirs?

The Bible is for mankind...the Quran is for Jinns and mankind...take it with a pinch of salt with what it has revealed...

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus taught Trinity...only the fool does not see...Matthew 28:19-20

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Can you cast a demon away in the name of Allah, Muhammad and Jibril? No! You can only cast away a demon with the name of the most high which is the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit...

And Yes...this proved that Jesus taught the Trinity..thank you

Anything not in their Koran or Hadith they claim it’s false lah
😊

[Lukongsimi]

The Bible is for mankind...the Quran is for Jinns and mankind...take it with a pinch of salt with what it has revealed...

Jesus taught the followers repent n be saved 
Their muh taught them more wives more merrier?lol

[Ali Imran]

Anything not in their Koran or Hadith they claim it’s false lah
😊

Is the Great Commission talking about baptizing or talking about the nature of God?

Did you see "... and these three are one" in that verse your ignoramus friend used to claim the Trinity was taught by Jesus?

[Ali Imran]

Jesus taught the followers repent n be saved 
Their muh taught them more wives more merrier?lol

Yes, Jesus taught that. But you missed out on an important ingredient. Obey the law. 

Do you obey the law? No, you don't. You are lawless. And the lawless are the people Jesus will chase away. Don't say you were not warned pengyu. 

And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ 

[pinkpanther]

Baptism can only be performed in the name of the Most High. ...Jesus clearly specified who the Most High is...He could have simply stated to baptize in the name of the one true God, the Father...but He did not say so

It doesn't take much contemplation to understand Jesus' message, unless one is stupiak and unable to comprehend it.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus taught the followers repent n be saved 
Their muh taught them more wives more merrier?lol

Muhammad taught his followers to have more wives, to keep female captives as sex slaves...to sell thêm and children as a mean to make money ...this is why many people flocked to this religion..because Muhammad made them feel powerful.....

These are the works of Satan my friend

[Lukongsimi]

Muhammad taught his followers to have more wives, to keep female captives as sex slaves...to sell thêm and children as a mean to make money ...this is why many people flocked to this religion..because Muhammad made them feel powerful.....

These are the works of Satan my friend

How if go heaven n capture all the females there?