[Oyk]

We mention our prophet, a man who was a servant of God. 

You also mention Jesus, a man who is a servant of God.

Stop yelping here.

I already produced evidence of Muh's lust which you denied as lies.

Still talk so much here for huat?

[pinkpanther]

It will be incoherent if you say you believe there is 1 while believing there are 3.

Your shahadah is "There is 1 God in 3 Gods", correct?

Why are we back to the Holy Trinity question? I am not forcing you to accept isn't it?

Regarding Allah and Muh...for Muslims viewers...pls don take my words for it ok..
I am here to exchange opinions only....I'm not here to offend Islam and Muslims...

I need to cover my arse first!
Let's be clear before we carry on!

[Oyk]

Yes, in no uncertain terms. And he specifically mentioned Jesus and told us not to do like what the followers of Jesus did, overpraise him. What our prophet said 1,400+ years ago is today a study know as Christology.

You can't prove that Muh even existed and was not a fictional character.

But I will go with you and just take it that he lived 1400 years ago and whatever he purr-portedly said were recorded erm 1100 years ago wor.

That's like trying to know you from someone living in Pyongyang, 300 years after you've died. Who the frog would believe such a Hadith huh?

[pinkpanther]

The moment you acknowledge Muh, you are worshipping a different god. You will SUBMIT to the hadiths as well.

I won't even say there's no god but Allah. I'd say there's no god but Yahweh of the Bible.

That is true...some Muslims don like to talk abt muh and the hadiths together! They just focus on the quran.....

[Ali Imran]

You can't prove that Muh even existed and was not a fictional character.

But I will go with you and just take it that he lived 1400 years ago and whatever he purr-portedly said were recorded erm 1100 years ago wor.

That's like trying to know you from someone living in Pyongyang, 300 years after you've died. Who the frog would believe such a Hadith huh?

Who would believe you ask? Serious historians. Not to mention the Muslim scholars, the intellects who converted to Islam, and the more than a billion Muslims.

So you think you know better than all of them. Okay noted.

[Ali Imran]

Why are we back to the Holy Trinity question? I am not forcing you to accept isn't it?

Regarding Allah and Muh...for Muslims viewers...pls don take my words for it ok..
I am here to exchange opinions only....I'm not here to offend Islam and Muslims...

I need to cover my arse first!
Let's be clear before we carry on!

Yes, you are not forcing me to accept your faith. 

We are on the topic of declaration of faith. The 1st part of my declaration of faith goes like this; there is but 1 God. It is simple and coherent. Your declaration of faith would go like this: there is but 1 God in 3 Gods and it is incoherent and its complication is classified as a mystery.

[Oyk]

Who would believe you ask? Serious historians. Not to mention the Muslim scholars, the intellects who converted to Islam, and the more than a billion Muslims.

So you think you know better than all of them. Okay noted.

You are playing the same old broken record that uses numbers to justify or validate a belief.

That's a logical fallacy.

You might as well also worship Vishnu since hundreds of thousands of historians and meeeelions of Hindus believe... You are getting more and more ridiculous. Seems like an early onset of dementia.

[Ali Imran]

You are playing the same old broken record that uses numbers to justify or validate a belief.

That's a logical fallacy.

You may as well also worship Vishnu since hundreds of thousands of historians and meeeerlions of Hindus believe... 

You are guilty of strawmanning.

We are talking about a specific point, the historical reliability of the Hadith. You bring in faith of the Hindus.

[Oyk]

Yes, you are not forcing me to accept your faith. 

We are on the topic of declaration of faith. The 1st part of my declaration of faith goes like this; there is but 1 God. It is simple and coherent. Your declaration of faith would go like this: there is but 1 God in 3 Gods and it is incoherent and its complication is classified as a mystery.

Right.

Keep mocking.

[Oyk]

You are guilty of strawmanning.

We are talking about a specific point, the historical reliability of the Hadith. You bring in faith of the Hindus.

If you don't understand analogy, it's your mother's fault, not mine. I want to make this very clear first.

Nao! Christian Prince whose native tongue is Arabic had produced the records about Muh's lust. I suppose you agree that it must be reliable..

[Ali Imran]

Right.

Keep mocking.

I am not mocking. I am saying it straight, with no sugar coating, seen through the lens of a non-Christian.

[Oyk]

I am not mocking. I am saying it straight, with no sugar coating, seen through the lens of a non-Christian.

Show me where it is written in the Bible or any Christian literature as you mocked.... but 1 God in 3 Gods.

Don't be a potato. Everyone here is laughing at you. 

[Ali Imran]

If you don't understand analogy, it's your mother's fault, not mine. I want to make this very clear first.

Nao! Christian Prince whose native tongue is Arabic had produced the records about Muh's lust. I suppose you agree that it must be reliable..

I highly recommend you read the autobiography of the prophet from serious historians instead of listening to all these hate-Islam youtubers.

[Ali Imran]

Show me where it is written in the Bible or any Christian literature as you mocked.... but 1 God in 3 Gods.

Don't be a potato. Everyone here is laughing at you. 

The Trinity is not found in the Bible.

The Trinity can be read in the Athanasian creed.

[Oyk]

Yes, you are not forcing me to accept your faith. 

We are on the topic of declaration of faith. The 1st part of my declaration of faith goes like this; there is but 1 God. It is simple and coherent. Your declaration of faith would go like this: there is but 1 God in 3 Gods and it is incoherent and its complication is classified as a mystery.

Curry nah.  We say there are 3 Persons in One God. 

This potato said "but 1 God in 3 Gods"..

See how he twist and turn. Very bad upbringing!

[Oyk]

The Trinity is not found in the Bible.

The Trinity can be read in the Athanasian creed.

No need to try to impress by showing that you know the term A...At...athan...na...na...sssia..an cr... 
.creed.

[Oyk]

I highly recommend you read the autobiography of the prophet from serious historians instead of listening to all these hate-Islam youtubers.

Hating Islam with empty barking is not going to persuade anyone.

But if the speaker can produce sauces from Islamic scholars, or quote the Quran and Hadith, then even you should admit that he's telling the truth about Muh.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, you are not forcing me to accept your faith. 

We are on the topic of declaration of faith. The 1st part of my declaration of faith goes like this; there is but 1 God. It is simple and coherent. Your declaration of faith would go like this: there is but 1 God in 3 Gods and it is incoherent and its complication is classified as a mystery.

 May I know the 2nd part of your declaration of faith goes to who?
You really like to bring people to the party! But you must know who is the host!

[pinkpanther]

Curry nah.  We say there are 3 Persons in One God. 

This potato said "but 1 God in 3 Gods"..

See how he twist and turn. Very bad upbringing!

 My respect for Ah Lee is slowly diminishing!

[pinkpanther]

You are guilty of strawmanning.

We are talking about a specific point, the historical reliability of the Hadith. You bring in faith of the Hindus.

Haiya....talk abt reliability...your Muslim sauce on whether it was muh or Saad who ordered the massacre has been proven by me to be unreliable!

Your pro Islamic sauce from my link went one step further to say Muh killed the fighting men....I didn't say that...they say it!

[Ali Imran]

 May I know the 2nd part of your declaration of faith goes to who?
You really like to bring people to the party! But you must know who is the host!

The 2nd part of the declaration for the followers of Jesus will be similar to ours albeit Jesus instead of Muhammad.

Peace and blessings be upon the 2 mighty messengers of Allah.

[Ali Imran]

Curry nah.  We say there are 3 Persons in One God. 

This potato said "but 1 God in 3 Gods"..

See how he twist and turn. Very bad upbringing!

I didn't twist anything. It is called logical assumption.

You believe in 1 God consisting of 3 persons and each one of the person is fully God. Well, I don't really know what you believe but that is what the Athanasian creed states. So, if the 3 persons are all fully God then you can substitute the term 'person' to 'God' ergo you believe in 1 God consisting of 3 Gods.

[Ali Imran]

Hating Islam with empty barking is not going to persuade anyone.

But if the speaker can produce sauces from Islamic scholars, or quote the Quran and Hadith, then even you should admit that he's telling the truth about Muh.

When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?

When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?

[pinkpanther]

Haiya....talk abt reliability...your Muslim sauce on whether it was muh or Saad who ordered the massacre has been proven by me to be unreliable!

Your pro Islamic sauce from my link went one step further to say Muh killed the fighting men....I didn't say that...they say it!

Ibn Umar reported:

فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا

Thus, the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.

Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.

I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?

[pinkpanther]

The 2nd part of the declaration for the followers of Jesus will be similar to ours albeit Jesus instead of Muhammad.

Peace and blessings be upon the 2 mighty messengers of Allah.

Where is the sauce! Give me the reliable ones this time!
Where is the peace be upon them you purposely left out in the first para? 

How many times are you going to be disrespectful to them?

[pinkpanther]

Ibn Umar reported:

فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا

Thus, the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.

Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.

I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?

They have surrendered!  How is executing them an act of self defense?

[Ali Imran]

Where is the sauce! Give me the reliable ones this time!
Where is the peace be upon them you purposely left out in the first para? 

How many times are you going to be disrespectful to them?

Source for what?

[Oyk]

When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?

When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?

Did I write any bombastic words which you couldn't understand?

That beedio isn't showing Bro Jay. It's showing Christian Prince, a native Arabic speaker, showing the Islamic evidence big big so all Arabic speakers are free to hammer him if he misquoted or mistranslated.

No one has said in the Comments Section he did either or both of the two, wor. 

So, potato, do you nao admit that your Muh was one of the following:-

1.  A lustful man and hence a false prophet 
2.  A lustful man in a porn story that's fictional

[Oyk]

When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?

When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?

Btw, Bro Jay didn't say that the Quran said that A&E were cast down to Mecca. It was the Hadith which said that.

So half of what you said that Bro Jay had said is true while the other half that you accused him of is a fat pig lie

And that's what a half truth is about, yours for context, potato..

[Oyk]

I didn't twist anything. It is called logical assumption.

You believe in 1 God consisting of 3 persons and each one of the person is fully God. Well, I don't really know what you believe but that is what the Athanasian creed states. So, if the 3 persons are all fully God then you can substitute the term 'person' to 'God' ergo you believe in 1 God consisting of 3 Gods.

Your mother has a cheesepie 
The cbeesepie ish damn smerry 
Your mother ish damn smerry 

Rogical asshumption