[Hope]

See.,you already admitted that Jesus is The God in Flesh...so nothing wrong with eating and pooping....

If Allah can send you to live in this human form....why The Father cannot send His Son to live a human life?

“And say, “All praise is for Allah, Who has never had ˹any˺ offspring;nor does He have a partner in ˹governing˺ the kingdom;nor is He pathetic, needing a protector.And revere Him immensely.”Quran 17:111

[pinkpanther]

In which heaven?
How far from earth?

You know the maths and science...you tell me 

[Hope]

The First and the Last is in the Bible referring to Jesus
Christianity came earlier than Islam...

So when the Quran also says that Allah is The First and The Last..
Logically you will ask if Allah is claiming to be Jesus tiok boh?

Allah was not crucified or died.Allah was not Jewish.Allah didn’t have mother or relatives.

As per Islam, Prophets before Prophets Muhammad brought the message of oneness of God which is Islam in Arabic.

[pinkpanther]

I also find it hard to explain lah! So I stop explaining lah!

1 Peter 3:15 

But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

I am very gentle and respectful liao

[pinkpanther]

Allah was not crucified or died.Allah was not Jewish.Allah didn’t have mother or relatives.

As per Islam, Prophets before Prophets Muhammad brought the message of oneness of God which is Islam in Arabic.

Jesus used The First and The Last....600yrs later, Allah also use The First and The Last.....so I want to ask you who Allah was claiming to be?

[Lukongsimi]

We are not asking you to follow prophet Muhammad or Mufti of Singapore.
We are asking you to follow only Allah which is God in English.(God has goddess in English )

God has goddess ?
all these years I m use to following Christ our redeemer high priest
Intercessor n suddenly u want me to follow your allah?
u need us to help u go heaven n we take over your place ?

[pinkpanther]

Where did Islam say hell is temporary?

Hadith and Quotes on Hell being Temporary

In Kanzul Ummal:

“Verily a day would come over hell when it will be like a field of corn that has dried up after flourishing for a while” (vol. vii, page 245);

“Verily a day would come over hell when there shall not be a single human being in it” (vol. vii, page 245).

Saying by Umar (ra) (Tafsir Fathul Byan, the Fathuo Bari, Durr-i Mansur and Hadil Arwah of Ibn-i-Qayyum) which runs thus:

“Even if the dwellers in hell may be numberless as the sand of the desert, surely a day would come when they will be taken out of it.”

A saying of Ibn-i-Masood is reported in connection with commentary upon a verse of the Holy Quran:

“a time would come upon hell when there shall not be a single person in it and this will be after they have dwelt therein for ahqib ” (years)

Musnad Ahmad:

“There will come on Hell a day when its shutters will strike against each other and there will be none in it. That will happen after the inmates of Hell will have lived in it for centuries.”

Tafsir-ul-Maalam-ul-Tanzil under verse Hud:107:

“A time will come when no one will be left in Hell; winds will blow and the windows and doors of Hell will make a rattling noise on account of the blowing winds.”

Sahih Bukhari 6571

"I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.'

This Hadith talks about the last man coming out of hell. Interpreting this with the Hadiths above, it means that hell will eventually be empty of all people, not just Muslims.

Verses of the Quran
Quran 99:7:

Whoso does an atom’s weight of good will see it.

So hell will be like rehabilitation and it will burn off the sins of a person. Then they’ll be taken into heaven for the atoms worth of good that they have done.

Quran 11:107:

Abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, excepting what thy Lord may will. Surely, thy Lord does bring about what He pleases.

Quran 11:108:

But as for those who will prove fortunate, they shall be in Heaven; abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, excepting what thy Lord may will — a gift that shall not be cut off.

Allah contrasts heaven as a gift that shall not be cut off, with hell as abiding there until Allah wills and ending 11:108 with an empathetic tone of Allah, who will surely bring about what He pleases. If hell was forever Allah definitely would have said that this was a punishment that would not be cut off as He said for heaven in the next verse. However, Heaven and Hell are clearly contrasted here as Heaven being forever and Hell being temporary until Allah wills.

Quran 101:8-9:

As for him whose scales are light, Hell will be his mother.

So the analogy of a man inside hell is like a fetus inside a mother. A fetus does not stay there forever, once it is fully formed. Or it can refer to the way a mother brings up a child to eventually be able to live independently. The people in hell will remain there until they are purified of their evil deeds on Earth and their soul is fully formed again to get into heaven.

There is no doubt that the abiding of evil-doers in hell is mentioned in some verses of the Holy Quran to be for “abad ” which sometimes means prospective eternity, but ” abad” also signifies a long time. And there are numerous passages in the Holy Quran showing that those in hell shall ultimately be taken out. Thus, in Quran 6:129:

God said, Verily the fire is your resort to dwell therein unless thy Lord will it otherwise, verily, thy Lord is wise and knowing.

[pinkpanther]

Where did Islam say hell is temporary?

I am your rescue from hell fire and now I have to show you that the Islamic hell is temporary  ...

[cheekopekman]

1 Peter 3:15 

But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

I am very gentle and respectful liao

You are more gentle and respectful lah!

[cheekopekman]

Jesus used The First and The Last....600yrs later, Allah also use The First and The Last.....so I want to ask you who Allah was claiming to be?

Jesus Himself said that He is the Alpha and the Omega lah!  Alpha is the 1st letter of the Roman alphabets and Omega is the last one lah!

[pinkpanther]

Jesus Himself said that He is the Alpha and the Omega lah!  Alpha is the 1st letter of the Roman alphabets and Omega is the last one lah!

Yes lah....who is he claiming to be?

[pinkpanther]

Sahih Bukhari 6571

"I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.'

This Hadith talks about the last man coming out of hell. Interpreting this with the Hadiths above, it means that hell will eventually be empty of all people, not just Muslims.

I believe it explicitly states that even Jews and Christians, along with disbelievers, not just Muslims, will eventually enter Paradise. This seems to contradict Abdool's assertion that those who follow the wrong path will face eternal condemnation....

Here is the problem for Moslems....if Christianity is true..you will face eternal condemnation! 

[pinkpanther]

Narrated `Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.' He will go to it, but he will imagine that it had been filled, and then he will return and say, 'O Lord, I have found it full.' Allah will say, 'Go and enter Paradise, and you will have what equals the world and ten times as much (or, you will have as much as ten times the like of the world).' On that, the man will say, 'Do you mock at me (or laugh at me) though You are the King?" I saw Allah's Apostle (while saying that) smiling that his premolar teeth became visible. It is said that will be the lowest in degree amongst the people of Paradise.

 I am beginning to like Muhammad 👍 pbuh!

[Ali Imran]

Whoever wanted to lead Christ ‘s followers astray.
Can be moslems

We are talking about the immediate followers of Jesus. 

Who came to them and changed the teachings of Jesus? Not the Muslims. Only 1 man went to the followers of Jesus and taught them a different teaching from what was taught by Jesus.

So yes, Jesus warned them about someone who would come and act like a sheep but a ravenous wolf. And that is probably why they didn't believe Paul and they didn't follow Paul's teachings.

[Ali Imran]

Jesus said that whoever is not against us is for us lah!

I am with Jesus the Messiah, the son of Mary, the last messenger of Allah sent to the children of Israel, peace and blessings be upon him.

I am against Paul who he twisted Jesus's teachings.

[Lukongsimi]

I am with Jesus the Messiah, the son of Mary, the last messenger of Allah sent to the children of Israel, peace and blessings be upon him.

I am against Paul who he twisted Jesus's teachings.

So u under Christianity or Islam?

[Ali Imran]

Jesus Himself said that He is the Alpha and the Omega lah!  Alpha is the 1st letter of the Roman alphabets and Omega is the last one lah!

If Jesus said that, it would have been in at least one of the Gospel.

No, it was a vision of John. Which John? Early Christian scholars opined it was disciple John. Later Christian scholars opted for John of Patmos.

[Ali Imran]

So u under Christianity or Islam?

I already told you. I have the same faith as Jesus pbuh. We submit to the will of the almighty God.

[Lukongsimi]

I already told you. I have the same faith as Jesus pbuh. We submit to the will of the almighty God.

Tot u want to convert

[Ali Imran]

Tot u want to convert

You are a follower of Paul. You follow his teachings, not Jesus.

[Ali Imran]

No..
He is a very hard core moslem

No, I am not.

I am softhearted. I shed tears easily.

[Lukongsimi]

If Jesus said that, it would have been in at least one of the Gospel.

No, it was a vision of John. Which John? Early Christian scholars opined it was disciple John. Later Christian scholars opted for John of Patmos.

It’s John the apostle of Patmos 
John the Baptist was executed by Herod he was beheaded

[Lukongsimi]

No, I am not.

I am softhearted. I shed tears easily.

Crocodile tears ?

[Lukongsimi]

You are a follower of Paul. You follow his teachings, not Jesus.

I didn’t pray to Paul lah

[Ali Imran]

Jesus N Father God are one 

So too the disciples, they are also one with Jesus and the Father.

[Ali Imran]

U see Jesus u see God.

Is that "see" literal or metaphorical?

[Lukongsimi]

Is that "see" literal or metaphorical?

John 14:8-10 Philip said to Jesus, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 
The intent of Jesus statement here is clear; Jesus is the same as the Father in nature, existence, and will, and both are God. Later in John 10:10, Jesus repeated this statement when He told the Pharisees, “I and my Father are One.”

[Ali Imran]

I didn’t pray to Paul lah

Yes, of course. I didn't say you worship Paul. You follow his teachings, not Jesus.

Remember, Paul's teaching is significantly different from Jesus's.

[Ali Imran]

John 14:8-10 Philip said to Jesus, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 
The intent of Jesus statement here is clear; Jesus is the same as the Father in nature, existence, and will, and both are God. Later in John 10:10, Jesus repeated this statement when He told the Pharisees, “I and my Father are One.”

You didn't answer the question.

If it is literal, it means the Father looks like Jesus, with hair, arms, and legs.

It it is metaphorical, it means Jesus's presence if evidence of God's existence.

Both does not mean Jesus is God.

[pinkpanther]

Paul acts like a sheep but a ravenous wolf??   you are the wolf lah
He dedicated his life to spreading the message of Jesus throughout the Roman Empire..
His journey took him to Israel, Turkey, Greece and syria only for you to belittle him...

Before He was the same like you...he rejects Christianity! He actively persecuted early Christians, believing that their teachings were heretical and a threat to Jewish law...his heart was harder than yours!

Of cos He found Christ and converted to Christianity...hopefully your turn will come! His writings and teachings laid a substantial foundation for early Christian theology and the spread of Christianity among Gentiles...

He was reportedly beheaded for spreading Christianity, and what some young punk here have done is to distort his legacy and damage his reputation....