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(20-09-2024, 11:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, of course. I didn't say you worship Paul. You follow his teachings, not Jesus.

Remember, Paul's teaching is significantly different from Jesus's.

so how u want to cry?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 11:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You didn't answer the question.

If it is literal, it means the Father looks like Jesus, with hair, arms, and legs.

It it is metaphorical, it means Jesus's presence if evidence of God's existence.

Both does not mean Jesus is God.

Jesus said “I am who I am “
Before Abraham he already existed 
So who is He ?
Cannot be a man right?
Man only has short life span

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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"If Jesus says he is God to people, he would be stoned to death", answers a Christian when asked why Jesus didn't straight up say he is God if he is indeed God.

Imagine that. God came down to earth but he cannot say he is God because people would stone him.
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(20-09-2024, 11:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus said “I am who I am “
Before Abraham he already existed 
So who is He ?
Cannot be a man right?
Man only has short life span

You exist even before you were born. 

You are so encapsulated by time and space that you cannot imagine that.
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(20-09-2024, 11:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  "If Jesus says he is God to people, he would be stoned to death", answers a Christian when asked why Jesus didn't straight up say he is God if he is indeed God.

Imagine that. God came down to earth but he cannot say he is God because people would stone him.

That was why he was crucified

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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In the Quran Jesus was referred as The Messiah, The Word Of God..did he also go around telling people he is the Messiah, The Word Of God?

Just because he didn't say he is God doesn't mean he is not God!
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(20-09-2024, 11:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You exist even before you were born. 

You are so encapsulated by time and space that you cannot imagine that.

If so who are you bef?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 11:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  so how u want to cry?

I'm just like the disciples of Jesus, telling people the truth about the Messiah, son of Mary, pbuh. He is a mighty messenger of the almighty God. 

Do you know that the concept of Messiah in Christianity is very different from that in Judaism?
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(20-09-2024, 11:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If so who are you bef?

I am who I am.
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(20-09-2024, 11:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus said “I am who I am “

That is not accurate. Please don't misquote the Gospels.
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(20-09-2024, 11:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That is not accurate. Please don't misquote the Gospels.

Isiah chap 43 


But now thus says the Lord, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. I give Egypt as your ransom, Cush and Seba in exchange for you. Because you are precious in my eyes, and honored, and I love you, I give men in return for you, peoples in exchange for your life. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, and from the west I will gather you.

U understand who was talking?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Muslim Has an issue with Paul........

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(20-09-2024, 11:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm just like the disciples of Jesus, telling people the truth about the Messiah, son of Mary, pbuh. He is a mighty messenger of the almighty God. 

Do you know that the concept of Messiah in Christianity is very different from that in Judaism?

Thomas said “my lord my God” to Jesus
U should say that also

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 11:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Isiah chap 43 


But now thus says the Lord, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. I give Egypt as your ransom, Cush and Seba in exchange for you. Because you are precious in my eyes, and honored, and I love you, I give men in return for you, peoples in exchange for your life. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, and from the west I will gather you.

U understand who was talking?

Why are you giving me random verses from the Jewish Bible? You should just admit you misquote the Gospel.
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(20-09-2024, 11:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I am who I am.

Don’t be a copy cat lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 11:58 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Thomas said “my lord my God” to Jesus
U should say that also

When I am surprised or overwhelmed, I would probably say the same. We Muslims do that all the time, albeit in Arabic.

For example, you showed me a big diamond. I may express, "My Lord!" or "My God!", or both simultaneously. That doesn't mean I take you as God.
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(21-09-2024, 12:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why are you giving me random verses from the Jewish Bible? You should just admit you misquote the Gospel.

Where got ?
At the burning bush Moses asked God who are u to tell to king pharoah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-09-2024, 12:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When I am surprised or overwhelmed, I would probably say the same. We Muslims do that all the time, albeit in Arabic.

For example, you showed me a big diamond. I may express, "My Lord!" or "My God!", or both simultaneously. That doesn't mean I take you as God.
Wow u so greedy huh
Thomas got received diamond meh

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-09-2024, 12:07 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t be a copy cat lah

It's not a trademark.

A beggar said exactly the same "I am" in the Gospels (John 9:9), just like how Jesus said it. Are you gonna take that beggar as God too?
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(21-09-2024, 12:12 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It's not a trademark.

A beggar said exactly the same "I am" in the Gospels, just like how Jesus said it. Are you gonna take that beggar as God too?

U r simply not happy that Jesus is God

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-09-2024, 12:15 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U r simply not happy that Jesus is God

Not me. Jesus is not happy that you take him as God.
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(21-09-2024, 12:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Not me. Jesus is not happy that you take him as God.

Don’t talk rubbish lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-09-2024, 12:24 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t talk rubbish lah

If I am a messenger of God to teach you about God, and somehow you instead believe I am God, that means I have failed in my mission. 

Of course I would be unhappy.
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(21-09-2024, 12:25 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If I am a messenger of God to teach you about God, and somehow you instead believe I am God, that means I have failed in my mission. 

Of course I would be unhappy.
Moslems all sama say same thing think same

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(21-09-2024, 12:27 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Moslems all sama say same thing think same

But it makes sense right?

What doesn't make sense is the Trinity. If you can believe in the Trinity, you cannot say God cannot be 4 in 1. God hasn't revealed it yet, just like before Jesus, nobody knew God was 3 in 1. Who knows that in the future, God will reveal to us that God has a brother too.
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Jesus's claim of being God is uniquely his own. He uttered the words "I Am" - a reference to the most holy name for God in the OT. The Hebrew name is Yahweh, translated "I Am." Of course, anyone can claim to be God. Interestingly enough, none of the other founders of the mainstream religions like Buddha, Confucius, or Muhammad ever did.

Jesus's uniqueness went beyond who He claimed to be to what He claimed He could do: heal the sick (John 5:1-9); raise the dead (John 11:43,44); turn water into wine (John 2:1-11); calm the storms (Mark 4:35-41); forgive sins (Mark 2:1-12)

According to Jesus, only someone who believes in Him will have eternal life, not someone sincerely seeking truth or someone who lives by a responsible moral code. No matter how good or moral people may try to be, without Christ every single one of us will experience not eternal life but eternal death. No other founder of a major religion has ever linked people's eternal well-being to belief in that founder. Only Jesus did.

Contrary to what many think, Jesus's crucifixion wasn't a tragic epilogue to an otherwise happy ending, nor was his death a senseless one. Jesus's whole purpose in life was fulfilled by his death. Jesus was born to die. Matt 16:21; 20:28. His ultimate sacrifice was the only way to bridge the great gulf between God and man. Jesus is the only gatekeeper to heaven. No one gets there without coming through Him. No matter how narrow-minded or intolerant this truth may seem to unbelievers, this is the core of the gospel that God commands us to share with others.
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(21-09-2024, 01:01 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Jesus's claim of being God is uniquely his own. He uttered the words "I Am" - a reference to the most holy name for God in the OT. The Hebrew name is Yahweh, translated "I Am." Of course, anyone can claim to be God. Interestingly enough, none of the other founders of the mainstream religions like Buddha, Confucius, or Muhammad ever did.

Jesus's uniqueness went beyond who He claimed to be to what He claimed He could do: heal the sick (John 5:1-9); raise the dead (John 11:43,44); turn water into wine (John 2:1-11); calm the storms (Mark 4:35-41); forgive sins (Mark 2:1-12)

According to Jesus, only someone who believes in Him will have eternal life, not someone sincerely seeking truth or someone who lives by a responsible moral code. No matter how good or moral people may try to be, without Christ every single one of us will experience not eternal life but eternal death. No other founder of a major religion has ever linked people's eternal well-being to belief in that founder. Only Jesus did.

Contrary to what many think, Jesus's crucifixion wasn't a tragic epilogue to an otherwise happy ending, nor was his death a senseless one. Jesus's whole purpose in life was fulfilled by his death. Jesus was born to die. Matt 16:21; 20:28. His ultimate sacrifice was the only way to bridge the great gulf between God and man. Jesus is the only gatekeeper to heaven. No one gets there without coming through Him. No matter how narrow-minded or intolerant this truth may seem to unbelievers, this is the core of the gospel that God commands us to share with others.

I am.

A beggar said the same, in John 9:9. Does it mean he is also God?
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(21-09-2024, 01:01 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Jesus's claim of being God is uniquely his own. He uttered the words "I Am" - a reference to the most holy name for God in the OT. The Hebrew name is Yahweh, translated "I Am." Of course, anyone can claim to be God. Interestingly enough, none of the other founders of the mainstream religions like Buddha, Confucius, or Muhammad ever did.

Jesus's uniqueness went beyond who He claimed to be to what He claimed He could do: heal the sick (John 5:1-9); raise the dead (John 11:43,44); turn water into wine (John 2:1-11); calm the storms (Mark 4:35-41); forgive sins (Mark 2:1-12)

According to Jesus, only someone who believes in Him will have eternal life, not someone sincerely seeking truth or someone who lives by a responsible moral code. No matter how good or moral people may try to be, without Christ every single one of us will experience not eternal life but eternal death. No other founder of a major religion has ever linked people's eternal well-being to belief in that founder. Only Jesus did.

Contrary to what many think, Jesus's crucifixion wasn't a tragic epilogue to an otherwise happy ending, nor was his death a senseless one. Jesus's whole purpose in life was fulfilled by his death. Jesus was born to die. Matt 16:21; 20:28. His ultimate sacrifice was the only way to bridge the great gulf between God and man. Jesus is the only gatekeeper to heaven. No one gets there without coming through Him. No matter how narrow-minded or intolerant this truth may seem to unbelievers, this is the core of the gospel that God commands us to share with others.

Do you find it ironic that your God has a religion and it is not Christianity?
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