[RichDad]

You think give testimony got money take ah...if they don have personal experiences up close with god..do you think they would spend so much time on YouTube lying? 
You think they need to lie meh...want to lie also cheat viewers on TV to buy their products tiok boh....

How to be saved by own mind power...pls sexplain!
You already say if Jesus save everyone...then no need to die.
Death is inevitable...but you must know he dies for sinners..everyone of us..

When did I say they lie? You don't understand what I posted.

Just my opinion that they thought they were saved by Jesus. Doesn't mean it is true. Logic tells me not true at all. They were saved by themselves.

Someone posted here Jesus saves every believer. I am just saying it is not true. Just look around and observe and ask.

Anyway, nvm. Don't like to argue anymore ... say what you want. It does not matter at all.

Whether Jesus saved them or not, you decide for yourself... lol