Ali inman was converted to christian after jesus appearr in gaza

(18-04-2024, 06:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad you know...the person who received the relevations from God did not even deserve to have a day declared for him as a holiday?? Where is the justice...where is the logic?

It is not a religious duty towards lord of the worlds.

We don’t even celebrate the day of Quran revelation.
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(18-04-2024, 06:14 PM)Hope Wrote:  It is not a religious duty towards lord of the worlds.

We don’t even celebrate the day of Quran revelation.

You know why it is not celebrated?? Because it is not the truth!! It is as simple as that!
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Sorry...I forget to add in good Friday.... the commemoration of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ....

If you Muslims do not think Jesus died on the cross...you should forgo this day as a holiday... Big Grin

Only the truth gets a holiday you know
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(18-04-2024, 06:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You know why it is not celebrated?? Because it is not the truth!! It is as simple as that!

It is not a religious duty mentioned in Quran or Hadith
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(18-04-2024, 06:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Sorry...I forget to add in good Friday.... the commemoration of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ....

If you Muslims do not think Jesus died on the cross...you should forgo this day as a holiday... Big Grin

Only the truth gets a holiday you know

You ask government to cancel the holidays.
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(18-04-2024, 06:31 PM)Hope Wrote:  You ask government to cancel the holidays.

Even the govt respects christian  belief

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-04-2024, 06:45 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Even the govt respects christian  belief
Christian got 10 holidays ?
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(18-04-2024, 06:47 PM)Hope Wrote:  Christian got 10 holidays ?

2 enough why so greedy 
Yours not even 1?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-04-2024, 06:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  2 enough why so greedy 
Yours not even 1?
Which days?
If they respect your religion, you should get more
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(18-04-2024, 04:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm not interested in local politics.

Are you heypi that Anwar is your PM?

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(18-04-2024, 03:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Don't do caricatures. Let's stick to what our scriptures say. 

I made you a STAR. You don't like? Rolleyes

PS: I mentioned what the Bible said already.. If your name is not in the book of life you go to HELL. 

Or do you want to read how it was written, as lake of fire? 

Or do you demand to see the verse? There's a price to pay you noe?  Rotfl

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(18-04-2024, 01:02 PM)Hope Wrote:  Okay. If Islam is true,Where are going to run on the day of Judgement?Read below verses carefully 


[Quran 5:116] GOD will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?’ “ He will say, “Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.

[Quran 5:117] “I told them only what You commanded me to say, that: ‘You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.’ I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things.


[Quran5:118] “If You punish them, they are Your constituents. If You forgive them, You are the Almighty, Most Wise.”

So Muh said that God said this to Jesus, and Jesus said that to God. 

And Muh said that He was the last and greatest prophet, he was BFF with Jesus... he could date a 6 year old kid.... 

And I am supposed to be considered to be not believing blindly but with "knowledge" if I recite the Quran including the above portion....  Rolleyes

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(12-04-2024, 11:41 AM)singaporean1964 Wrote:  https://youtu.be/VbsKllNqAbE

Ali Imam became a Christian after seeing Jesus who even spoke to him.

Now Ali Imam says nobody has seen Jesus.

Apparently Ali Imam is saying that the vision Ali Imam saw might be Satan. Rolleyes

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(18-04-2024, 07:44 PM)Oyk Wrote:  So Muh said that God said this to Jesus, and Jesus said that to God. 

And Muh said that He was the last and greatest prophet, he was BFF with Jesus... he could date a 6 year old kid.... 

And I am supposed to be considered to be not believing blindly but with "knowledge" if I recite the Quran including the above portion....  Rolleyes

Quran says, Jesus Will testify on the day of Judgement.

As per Quran, who ever associate partners to creator of heaven and earth, will reside in hell forever.
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(18-04-2024, 07:58 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Ali Imam became a Christian after seeing Jesus who even spoke to him.

Now Ali Imam says nobody has seen Jesus.

Apparently Ali Imam is saying that the vision Ali Imam saw might be Satan. Rolleyes

Ali said it might be the devil wor....so I put it to him that muh did not know who gave him the relevation because the angel did not identify himself to muh....could it be the devil? Big Grin
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(18-04-2024, 08:06 PM)Hope Wrote:  Muh's Quran says, Jesus Will testify on the day of Judgement.
As per  Muh's Quran, who ever associate partners to creator of heaven and earth, will reside in hell forever.

Corrected for you...

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(18-04-2024, 08:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ali said it might be the devil wor....so I put it to him that muh did not know who gave him the relevation because the angel did not identify himself to muh....could it be the devil? Big Grin

Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding for saying Satanic Verses. Eventually they got him.

If we say what you wrote, Ali will immediately report to mata. We can only stop arguing with him. Even if you say muh was a false prophet, he will take big offence.

爹亲娘亲不如 Muh 亲。Muslims love Muh to bits.

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(18-04-2024, 08:13 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Corrected for you...

Correct. Quran was given to Muhammad and teaches only oneness of God, like Gospel (Injeel) Jesus/Isa, Torah(Taurat) Moses/Musa ,Pslam( saboor) David/ Dawood.
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(18-04-2024, 08:22 PM)Hope Wrote:  Correct. Quran was given to Muhammad and teaches only oneness of God, like Godpel(Injeel) Jesus/Isa, Torah(Taurat) Moses/Musa ,Pslam( saboor) David/ Dawood.

You heypi can already lorh. Mybfd.  Love

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(18-04-2024, 08:18 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding for saying Satanic Verses. Eventually they got him.

If we say what you wrote, Ali will immediately report to mata. We can only stop arguing with him. Even if you say muh was a false prophet, he will take big offence.

爹亲娘亲不如 Muh 亲。Muslims love Muh to bits

I never criticise muh what...I just put up the facts..if he wants to report if he feels hurt...then end this open discussions lor
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(18-04-2024, 08:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I never criticise muh what...I just put up the facts..if he wants to report if he feels hurt...then end this open discussions lor

I have no issue if you don't believe Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه وسلم) was a messenger of the God of Israel. We are all free to believe whatever we want to believe. You can shout at the top of your voice that you disbelieve he was a prophet also it won't matter to me. Let's get that out of the way.

Then you went on and alluded that our prophet got the Quran from satan or the devil instead of the angel Gabriel. The same EXACT accusation was thrown at Jesus by the Pharisees, accusing Jesus of being under possession by Beelzebub. What was Jesus's reply? Awesome reply and I will use the same reply when you alluded that our prophet received the Quran from the devil. 

Read Mark 3.
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(18-04-2024, 07:15 PM)Hope Wrote:  Which days?
If they respect your religion, you should get more

Pink panther already stated the 2 holidays
Need to repeat ?
Get more so u can laze at home mock at our belief?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-04-2024, 09:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I have no issue if you don't believe Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه وسلم) was a messenger of the God of Israel. We are all free to believe whatever we want to believe. You can shout at the top of your voice that you disbelieve he was a prophet also it won't matter to me. Let's get that out of the way.

Then you went on and alluded that our prophet got the Quran from satan or the devil instead of the angel Gabriel. The same EXACT accusation was thrown at Jesus by the Pharisees, accusing Jesus of being under possession by Beelzebub. What was Jesus's reply? Awesome reply and I will use the same reply when you alluded that our prophet received the Quran from the devil. 

Read Mark 3.

Post 659 and 665...you said that ..can someone mistaken if it was indeed the devil who came to the dream instead of jesus?...

So I put it up to you that it might be the devil instead of jibreel who passed the relevations to muh...because muh had absolutely no idea who the other party was...because there was no authentication between the 2 of them!
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(18-04-2024, 09:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Post 659 and 665...you said that ..can someone mistaken if it was indeed the devil who came to the dream instead of jesus?...

So I put it up to you that it might be the devil instead of jibreel who passed the relevations to muh...because muh had absolutely no idea who the other party was...because there was no authentication between the 2 of them!

Have you read Mark 3 as suggested? Do you understand that parable in Mark 3? Let me make it simple for you. If the message is to turn away from satan, the message cannot be from satan. The Quran says to turn away from satan, in quite a few places.
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I have attended megachurches like New Creation, the non-denominational Church of S'pore in Marine Parade, a Methodist church in Marsiling, Lighthouse Evangelist, a Pentecostal church, and a house (a euphemism for underground) church in China. We may have denominational differences, but we don't fight over our differences. What we do have in common is that we are unified by the core foundational beliefs of Christianity that include the Trinity, Creationism, the deity of Christ, what His death on the Cross accomplished, His resurrection from the grave and his Second Coming. There's no denying that we do have differing views on issues such as worship styles, the kind of worship music, how our church should be governed plus certain aspects of church life, but so long as the fundamental tenets of Christianity remain intact there's no cause for worry, and that's what matters most.
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(18-04-2024, 09:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you read Mark 3 as suggested? Do you understand that parable in Mark 3? Let me make it simple for you. If the message is to turn away from satan, the message cannot be from satan. The Quran says to turn away from satan, in quite a few places.

And I say to you, if you pray to Jesus, the message cannot be from satan...even in dreams... 

You cannot say " oh it could be the devil in your dreams" 
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”Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”“
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭25‬-‭30‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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