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(20-09-2024, 03:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So u think Ali is against us or for us?

What do you think leh? Thinking He asked lots of biblical questions for answers lah! Big Grin If you know the answers tell him lah!
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(20-09-2024, 09:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In Heaven Big Grin
In which heaven?
How far from earth?
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(20-09-2024, 09:23 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Throne in Heaven
1After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits a of God. 6Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.
In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:
“ ‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’ b
who was, and is, and is to come.”
9Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
11“You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”

in Quran verse I posted, Allah says he created the universe and also expanding it.
now Science also proving that universe is expanding.
Can you show any bible verses similar to Allah’s claim?


“We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.”Quran 51:47
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(20-09-2024, 09:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Allah is no where found in the Bible 
Where did he come from?

Allah is an Arabic word.
Your bible is in English which is a non native language same as Arabic to Jesus.

Why do you insist in English?
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(20-09-2024, 09:23 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Throne in Heaven
1After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits a of God. 6Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.
In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:
“ ‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’ b
who was, and is, and is to come.”
9Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
11“You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”

That's the vision Apostle John saw which he recorded in Revelation lah! Big Grin He saw the risen Lord Jesus then he was taken up by the Holy Spirit and saw the heavenly worship lah!
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(20-09-2024, 08:54 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You just need to look at the Bible! Satan is scare of Jesus ok Big Grin
But Satan is not scare of Muhammad  Big Grin

So what makes you think you are praying to Allah and not to Muhammad and Satan?

We pray to Allah only. Because our praying method is the same as last 1400 years.

Your 45000 secs have different methods of praying.Some even using music, songs and etc. those are satanic as per your fatwa
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(20-09-2024, 08:52 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So you are saying that the Hindus are wrong to worship Lord Krishna?
They believe that God can become a Man...why not you?

Can they confirm lord Krishna created this universe?
They believe Krishna is a son of God same as your belief.
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(20-09-2024, 03:20 PM)Hope Wrote:  We are not asking you to follow prophet Muhammad or Mufti of Singapore.
We are asking you to follow only Allah which is God in English.(God has goddess in English )

Why are you not following prophet Muhammad pbuh... Big Grin why you didn't put pbuh Big Grin
He is chosen by Allah ...some love him more than they love Allah you know  Big Grin
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(20-09-2024, 03:32 PM)Hope Wrote:  Have you seen the God?

Jesus N Father God are one 
U see Jesus u see God.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 03:50 PM)Hope Wrote:  Allah is an Arabic word.
Your bible is in English which is a non native language same as Arabic to Jesus.

Why do you insist in English?
Bible is in English, u know Arabic meh

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 08:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We don’t believe a prophet who is a polygamist

Do you believe David, Solomon, Moses, Abraham  who were polygamists too?
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(20-09-2024, 03:41 PM)Hope Wrote:  In which heaven?
How far from earth?

In third heaven,far very far.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 08:45 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Everything has time 
Time to come time to go

Very funny 😄 

You have specific time for everything.In our case, you are questioning?😂
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(20-09-2024, 03:58 PM)Hope Wrote:  Can they confirm lord Krishna created this universe?
They believe Krishna is a son of God same as your belief.

Hindus and Christians are good friends! Big Grin we share the same concept of God!
Both religions came earlier than Islam...and we smiled at a Moslem when we see them  Big Grin..because they might have the wrong concept!
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(20-09-2024, 04:06 PM)Hope Wrote:  Do you believe David, Solomon, Moses, Abraham  who were polygamists too?

I believe lah! Big Grin Recorded in the Bible lah!
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(20-09-2024, 08:44 AM)ILukongsimi Wrote:  Drop what? Bomb?

Gospels. What else?
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(20-09-2024, 03:55 PM)Hope Wrote:  We pray to Allah only. Because our praying method is the same as last 1400 years.

Your 45000 secs have different methods of praying.Some even using music, songs and etc. those are satanic as per your fatwa

Hindu praying method is the same as 6000 years ago.. Big Grin
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(20-09-2024, 08:43 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He came to say that the Torah and the Injeel were true! Then he goes on to say the Quran is the final revelation from Allah...and the Jews and Christians must follow it!
Prophet and Quran both say , there were scriptures before Quran.
They never say what you are holding is 100% true.
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(20-09-2024, 04:06 PM)Hope Wrote:  Do you believe David, Solomon, Moses, Abraham  who were polygamists too?

Moses ? How many wives he had?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 08:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Very good.. I like your curiosity!
In Islam, hell is temporary. In Christianity it is eternal..
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Hell is a prison of everlasting chains from which there is no hope of release (Jude 6). It is a furnace of conscious torment where the fire never goes out (Matt. 13.49-50). It is a place of excruciating misery where the worm does not die (Mark 9.47-48).

Where did Islam say hell is temporary?
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(20-09-2024, 08:37 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How did u know your muh ?

I know him like you know Jesus.
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(20-09-2024, 08:02 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You can't even explain your own existence in flesh but you want to explain why God cannot be in flesh... Big Grin

As per Islam, our existence in this earth is transient on our Journey to permanent abodes 

During in this earth, we will be tested for next stage.
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(20-09-2024, 03:41 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  What do you think leh? Thinking He asked lots of biblical questions for answers lah! Big Grin If you know the answers tell him lah!

He kept denying Paul ‘s teaching what answers he will he accept?
If u agree with him means Paul is a false teacher

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 04:12 PM)Hope Wrote:  Prophet and Quran both say , there were scriptures before Quran.
They never say what you are holding is 100% true.

In chapter 3, verse 3, God says in the Quran, "It is He (God) Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (Prophet Muhammad ) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).”

You don anyhow add and say what we are holding is not true...the Quran does not say that! Muhammad came to confirm the Torah and Injeel...if they are not true, Muhammad  will not confirm it... Big Grin

Of cos we don believe the Quran because it contradicts all the books before  Big Grin
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(20-09-2024, 08:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The most important message to mankind has already been delivered by His Son....why need other prophets?

What was the important message?
Is it God is one!worship him alone!?
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(20-09-2024, 04:18 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He kept denying Paul ‘s teaching what answers he will he accept?
If u agree with him means Paul is a false teacher

Are you able to convince him leh? Thinking
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(20-09-2024, 04:15 PM)Hope Wrote:  I know him like you know Jesus.

U read the book or saw him in dreams?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 04:20 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Are you able to convince him leh? Thinking

No..
He is a very hard core moslem

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-09-2024, 04:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  No..
He is a very hard core moslem

I also find it hard to explain lah! Big Grin So I stop explaining lah!
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(20-09-2024, 04:18 PM)Hope Wrote:  As per Islam, our existence in this earth is transient on our Journey to permanent abodes 

During in this earth, we will be tested for next stage.

What is the next stage?
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