Scripture readings for Christmas
#31

(25-12-2024, 10:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Thank you for your honesty because your Quran did not mention the prophecy of prophet Isaiah at all.....

Muslims have been going to the Bible to look for evidences to justify Muhammad especially from the verses of Isaiah... because in your Quran Jesus said

And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad.”1 Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”

We don’t have to see evidence in your bible to confirm prophet Muhammad.
Our scholars are trying to educate you with your scripture.

John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which  
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
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#32

(25-12-2024, 10:09 AM)The pinkpanther Wrote:  I am glad you ask because the Quran does not explain the term "Messiah"...and you need to go to the Bible to know the definitions...

It means the "anointed one"

So God is anointed one!
Please explain what is “anointed one”
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#33

(25-12-2024, 10:14 AM)Sticw Wrote:  You can continue your fallacy, chances are you belong to the a third who will call out his name but he does not know you. 

I am in this world but not of this world already. Not by my action but by redemption through He who was born, died and raised.

In case you think and feel that you are suffering in this world. I was born poor but God has given me much and I am grateful. From rental flat to private housing. From negative bank balance to more than half million in investments excluding other assets. God provides everything and all He wanted is reciprocating of His Grace through Jesus Christ. Amen.

He will not hear your calling .👍
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#34

(25-12-2024, 11:00 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Repent, and believe in Jesus Christ the Lord, and you will be saved lah! Big Grin Your family will also be saved lah!

Only Christian want salvation.
Hindus, Buddhist, Atheist, Muslim and others don’t believe in salvation.

However Muslim believe in eternal life like Christian do.
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#35

(25-12-2024, 10:58 AM)Sticw Wrote:  Not sure if anyone found this interesting... Do you know that 3 days after 冬至 is the birth of Jesus Christ? I checked last 2 years the same pattern. So for all those who asked how can He be born in Winter, technically he was born in Spring and He was a gentile. That is why Jews did not recognise him. Thank God they forsaken Him so the rest of the guest got invited into sonship!!! So happy! Smile

Gentile?
Mother-Jewish 
Grand parents-Jewish 

How can he be Gentile?

Father Gentile?
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#36

(25-12-2024, 10:25 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Well said lah, bro! Big Grin We're ALL redeemed by Jesus Christ through His blood shed on the Cross lah!

He was nailed by Roman soldiers.

He didn’t shed blood for your sins .
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#37

(25-12-2024, 10:11 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Yes lah! Big Grin He saw a hole on a mountain and threw a stone inside to see how deep it was lah! Then he looked into the whole and found those scrolls lah!
Scroll were given to Abraham and Moses.

Wows,People can still find ancient scriptures.
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#38

(25-12-2024, 02:36 PM)Hope Wrote:  Don’t you eat chicken, Beef, mutton, pork and other meat today?

Yes...we eat them for nourishment...but once a year Muslim practise animals massacre in the name of God!


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#39

This certain moslem anyhow whack only

Most premillennial scholars agree that the purpose of animal sacrifice during the millennial kingdom is memorial in nature. As the Lord’s Supper is a reminder of the death of Christ to the Church today, animal sacrifices will be a reminder during the millennial kingdom. To those born during the millennial kingdom, animal sacrifices will again be an object lesson. During that future time, righteousness and holiness will prevail, but those with earthly bodies will still have a sin nature, and there will be a need to teach about how offensive sin is to a holy and righteous God. Animal sacrifices will serve that purpose, "but in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year" (Hebrews 10:3)
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#40

(25-12-2024, 03:18 PM)Hope Wrote:  We don’t have to see evidence in your bible to confirm prophet Muhammad.
Our scholars are trying to educate you with your scripture.

John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which  
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

Bro, the comforter is referring to the Holy Spirit.... Big Grin Not Muhammad!  
You see how you Moslems lay claims to everything that is not yours!
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#41

(25-12-2024, 03:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...we eat them for nourishment...but once a year Muslim practise animals massacre in the name of God!


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We do not do any animals sacrifice in the name of Allah.

During Haj, Able Muslim will slaughter cattle , lamb to remember prophet Abraham willingness to sacrifice his son.


“Neither their meat nor blood reaches Allah. Rather, it is your piety that reaches Him. This is how He has subjected them to you so that you may proclaim the greatness of Allah for what He has guided you to, and give good news to the good-doers.”Quran 22:37
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#42

(25-12-2024, 03:24 PM)Hope Wrote:  So God is anointed one!
Please explain what is “anointed one”

Jesus is God in human flesh...
Anointed is chosen one!
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#43

(25-12-2024, 03:45 PM)You pinkpanther Wrote:  Bro, the comforter is referring to the Holy Spirit.... Big Grin Not Muhammad!  
You see how you Moslems lay claims to everything that is not yours!

Where is the holy sprit now after 2000 years?
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#44

(25-12-2024, 03:47 PM)Hope Wrote:  We do not do any animals sacrifice in the name of Allah.

During Haj, Able Muslim will slaughter cattle , lamb to remember prophet Abraham willingness to sacrifice his son.


“Neither their meat nor blood reaches Allah. Rather, it is your piety that reaches Him. This is how He has subjected them to you so that you may proclaim the greatness of Allah for what He has guided you to, and give good news to the good-doers.”Quran 22:37

OK. The animals were sacrifices for Allah...true or not?
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#45

(25-12-2024, 03:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK. The animals were sacrifices for Allah...true or not?

We don’t sacrifice any animals to Allah.

As far as I know, A small sect In Hindu sacrifice animal for their God.Those Hindus don’t eat sacrificed animals and expect their god to eat.

We Muslim eat those animals slaughtered during Hajj.
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#46

(25-12-2024, 04:01 PM)Hope Wrote:  We don’t sacrifice any animals to Allah.

As far as I know, A small sect In Hindu sacrifice animal for their God.Those Hindus don’t eat sacrificed animals and expect their god to eat.

We Muslim eat those animals slaughtered during Hajj.

OK.. if you don sacrifice the animals to Allah..then you sacrifice the animals to who? Big Grin
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#47

(25-12-2024, 03:48 PM)Hope Wrote:  Where is the holy sprit now after 2000 years?

It is here with anyone who puts their faith in Christ...my brother!
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#48

(25-12-2024, 04:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK.. if you don sacrifice the animals to Allah..then you sacrifice the animals to who? Big Grin

Forgive him, he did not first seek wisdom from God but just following the rituals.

In their teaching, they perform sacrifice to cover yearly sin just like the Jews did. They also give out the animal to the poor as a charity and only consume max of one third of the animal. They are also not allowed to consume the animal if they felt or said they felt sorry for the animal for that undo the covering of sin for them.

Before when I was a free thinker, I never understood how can one pay debt or interest by sacrificing something that belongs to the creator of all things.

Therefore, I leave them alone instead of convincing them. They can be rather sensitive, ie cannot say anything bad about them but must accept their badmouthing of others' religion and faith.

Shalom.
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#49

(25-12-2024, 04:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK.. if you don sacrifice the animals to Allah..then you sacrifice the animals to who? Big Grin

We are following the command of Allah.As per Quran he has commanded all the previous prophets.

“For every community We appointed a rite of sacrifice so that they may pronounce the Name of Allah over the sacrificial animals He has provided for them. For your God is only One God, so submit yourselves to Him ˹alone˺. And give good news ˹O Prophet˺ to the humble:”Quran 22:34
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#50

(25-12-2024, 04:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is here with anyone who puts their faith in Christ...my brother!
Does this mean holy sprit is already in you?
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#51

(25-12-2024, 05:00 PM)Sticw Wrote:  Forgive him, he did not first seek wisdom from God but just following the rituals.

In their teaching, they perform sacrifice to cover yearly sin just like the Jews did. They also give out the animal to the poor as a charity and only consume max of one third of the animal. They are also not allowed to consume the animal if they felt or said they felt sorry for the animal for that undo the covering of sin for them.

Before when I was a free thinker, I never understood how can one pay debt or interest by sacrificing something that belongs to the creator of all things.

Therefore, I leave them alone instead of convincing them. They can be rather sensitive, ie cannot say anything bad about them but must accept their badmouthing of others' religion and faith.

Shalom.

Even the Jews have stopped sacrificing animals ..offering prayers instead.
So I don know why the so call " The Final Revelation " that the Moslems claim contradicts with the Torah and Bible..
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#52

(25-12-2024, 02:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you want me to close my eyes and just believe what you say? No need to ask questions?

Jesus said that those who didn't see and yet believed were more blessed than those who did lah! Big Grin I believe with no question lah!
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#53

(25-12-2024, 03:28 PM)Hope Wrote:  Only Christian want salvation.
Hindus, Buddhist, Atheist, Muslim and others don’t believe in salvation.

However Muslim believe in eternal life like Christian do.

(25-12-2024, 03:34 PM)Hope Wrote:  He was nailed by Roman soldiers.

He didn’t shed blood for your sins .

(25-12-2024, 03:39 PM)Hope Wrote:  Scroll were given to Abraham and Moses.

Wows,People can still find ancient scriptures.

You refused to believe so I shall not force you lah! Big Grin I'm not good in arguments and debates lah!
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#54

(25-12-2024, 10:14 AM)Sticw Wrote:  You can continue your fallacy, chances are you belong to the a third who will call out his name but he does not know you. 

I am in this world but not of this world already. Not by my action but by redemption through He who was born, died and raised.

In case you think and feel that you are suffering in this world. I was born poor but God has given me much and I am grateful. From rental flat to private housing. From negative bank balance to more than half million in investments excluding other assets. God provides everything and all He wanted is reciprocating of His Grace through Jesus Christ. Amen.
AMEN.
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#55

(25-12-2024, 06:19 PM)Hope Wrote:  Does this mean holy sprit is already in you?

It is with those who are baptized and those who put their faiths in Christ...
You can feel the Holy Spirit guiding you...I'm not joking..

Before baptism...the pastor will pray and call upon the Holy spirit while you close your eyes and experience the feeling....
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#56

(25-12-2024, 06:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is with those who are baptized and those who put their faiths in Christ...
You can feel the Holy Spirit guiding you...I'm not joking..

Before baptism...the pastor will pray and call upon the Holy spirit while you close your eyes and experience the feeling....

Is holy sprit with you?
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#57

(25-12-2024, 06:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Even the Jews have stopped sacrificing animals ..offering prayers instead.
So I don know why the so call " The Final Revelation " that the Moslems claim contradicts with the Torah and Bible..

Both of you have changed everything.
You both are following your desires.

So don’t blame the Quran/Islam/Muslim
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#58

(25-12-2024, 06:39 PM)Hope Wrote:  Is holy sprit with you?

The Spirit of Truth is with me and you are receiving the good news from me.. Big Grin
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#59

(25-12-2024, 06:41 PM)Hope Wrote:  Both of you have changed everything.
You both are following your desires.

So don’t blame the Quran/Islam/Muslim

Muhammad affirmed what the Jews and Christians have during his time....and these scriptures are the same up to this day...
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#60

(25-12-2024, 03:28 PM)Hope Wrote:  Only Christian want salvation.
Hindus, Buddhist, Atheist, Muslim and others don’t believe in salvation.

However Muslim believe in eternal life like Christian do.

All Muslim go to paradise eventually according to Muhammad..
There will be none in hell according to the hadiths
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