[cheekopekman]

The whole book of bible how come no religion such as Muslim?

Only the word Christian is found
The word Christian is used three times in the New Testament: Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, and 1 Peter 4:16. The original usage in all three New Testament verses reflects a derisive element in the term Christian to refer to followers of Christ who did not acknowledge the emperor of Rome.

The believers were called Christians at Antioch lah!  That was the 1st recorded word in the Bible lah! No wonder our friend is not happy lah!

[p1acebo]

Below read for fun hor. Joke joke only har



Chinese have been in Malaysia since 1400s. As long as 600 y ago. Malayan folk heroes like Hang Tuah and Hang Jehan were Chinese.

Forwarded ...

INTERESTING MESSAGE FOR MALAYSIAN.
By Marina Mahathir.

This is a really good observation by Marina M. My utmost respect to her for her integrity and honesty!

Marina Mahathir on Malaysia National Anthem "Negara Ku".. Interesting!

She really made a very good point here, read on!

Posted on Marina M's blog in response to an article on the issue.

Some self-appointed defenders of Islam including the chief of "1Malaysia " have insisted that Catholics should use "Tuhan" instead of "Allah" to address the Catholic or Christian God. But in the national anthem, "Tuhan" (not "Allah") bless the country (...Tuhan kurniakan...). How now ?!!. If Malay-Muslims are that easily confused as portrayed by some politicians, they must be thinking that Malaysia is blessed by the Catholic/Christian God, and the Muslim God "Allah" is perpetually on leave.

Perhaps, this confusion may cause the government to change the national anthem by replacing "Tuhan" with "Allah" But then again, non-muslims will not be allowed to sing the national anthem. Then it would be non|-muslims turn to be confused. If this issue goes to the courts, even the judges will get headache and confused.

And not forgetting our 1st. Rukunegara "Kepercayaan kepada TUHAN". How???

SUBJECT: HARI INI DALAM SEJARAH

The Truth Revealed (with evidence)!

In June 1998, the government of Malaysia hired a team of experts from all over the world to gather in Malaysia for a research project to compliment the history studies that we undertook in our secondary school.

The objective of the research is simply:

1. To find proof and evidence that show the Malays were the origins of Malaysia and they were the first race and religion that landed in Malaysia

2. To further strengthen their claims, first they need to find the graveyards of Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and others.. to show the existence of their pioneers.

3. The Batu Bersurat in Terengganu, reveals that the islamic religion landed in Malaysia more than a hundred years ago which further strengthened their claims!

BEWARE & OPEN YOUR EYES !!

Go and ask your brother, sister, niece, nephew etc. Since the year 1999 (if I'm not mistaken) or year 2000, do they study about HANG TUAH anymore ?
Why is that popular subject GONE ?
Missing in action ?
Or evidence reveals something else that caused the government to stop the syllabus and HIDE the TRUTH ?

Here are the Evidences of the findings by the team of scientists archaeologist, historian and other technical staff from the United
States, United Kingdom, Germany, Canada, Yemen & Russia.

The evidence are:

1) They finally found the graveyards of Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat and others, their skeletons had been analyzed and samples of DNA taken with the results showing:

Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and mates were NOT MALAY !!
They were CHINESE origins (Islamic) from China !!!
Why were they here in Malacca?

If you go back in history, you would know that they were on a mission to protect the UNGRATEFUL MALAY Sultanate from the frequent attacks by the Kingdom of SIAM (Thailand).

So Hang Tuah was not a Malay hero !

They were the protectors of the useless and ungrateful Parameswara (who was from INDONESIA) who landed in Malacca and claimed that the land belonged to him!

Hang Tuah and friends were all from China, they were assigned to the Malacca Sultanate because Parameswara requested the Ming Dynasty Emperor for protection!
Hence, the rich historical heritage of the
Babas & Nyonyas were closely linked to the Seven Voyages to the Western Ocean by Admiral Zheng He who incidentally was a Chinese Muslim himself!
In fact the Babas and Nyonyas were one of the earliest descendants from the aristocratic lineage of Admiral Zheng He from China.

These Chinese have interbred with the Parameswara's people and till today are still more Chinese than Malay.

They follow Chinese customs, wear "baju kurung with kerosang", speaks bazaar Malay
language and Hokkien and they eat pork.

They co-celebrate every religion existing in this country such as Holy Mary and Jesus, Hindu god like the "hantu tetek" and even the Islamic "keramat".

This is the best integrated race and the earliest ever formed in Malaysia but yet they are non bumiputras even though they are
one of the earliest....earlier than the so called Malays if there is such a race !!!!
That's why the Hang Tuah series of history is MISSING from the Malaysian SEJARAH today!

It's shameful and they destroyed all
facts on Hang Tuah just to save their faces !!
Note: Remember Princess Hang Li Poh? - All surname 'HANG' (or ANG in Hokkien).

2) The researchers hired by the government found the oldest tombstones (graveyard) in Kelantan in year 2000. Surprisingly, the tombstones were at least 900 years old !
Older than the so-called Batu Bersurat.
And the interesting thing was that they all belonged to the CHINESE!

Having landed first in Malacca doesn't mean Malay is the first in Malaysia because during that time, the road was too long or
undeveloped for them to reach or see the other side of the coast where the Chinese had landed much earlier.

If you want the hard evidence of what the truth of the Research reveals, please write to The Federal Association of Archaeology & Research of Michigan, USA.

This is a good reason to remind the Bumiputras NOT to ask the Chinese
or Indians to go back to their Motherlands because the evidence had shown that Malays were NOT the original people of Malaysia ! Orang Asli with v dark skin and curly hair and African genes are the true bumiputras.

The Truth Revealed (with evidence) and anthropologists have yet to ascertain if there was indeed a Malay race !

[Lukongsimi]

The believers were called Christians at Antioch lah!  That was the 1st recorded word in the Bible lah! No wonder our friend Ali not happy lah!

lol 😝

[pinkpanther]

The Father's will is very simple but important lah ..not what Alizabird claims to know


The Father's will is not about what we are doing, but being obedient to his word, which is to believe in Jesus and thus receive the free gift of eternal life. That is the will of the Father. We see also that those who do the Father's will shall be called the brothers and sisters of Christ.

[pinkpanther]

That was what Jesus told his disciples not to moslems right ?

He anyhow whack..  I said before moslems will come to the Bible to misinterpret and anyhow lay claim to what they want to believe.....same same as their prophet lah

[pinkpanther]

If the moslem does the will of the Father...I would like to shake their hands and give them a hug lah

[Lukongsimi]

Did Jesus said "he who does the will of the Father" according to Matt 7:21?

U kept mentioning the will of The Father but do you know what is it?
Can’t be marry 4 wives kill unbelievers right?

[Ali Imran]

U kept mentioning the will of The Father but do you know what is it?
Can’t be marry 4 wives kill unbelievers right?

I already mention 2 wills of the Father.

[Ali Imran]

The believers were called Christians at Antioch lah!  That was the 1st recorded word in the Bible lah! No wonder our friend Ali not happy lah!

Don't speak lies about me. I am not unhappy.

You said "Jesus said..." and I made it clear to you that it wasn't Jesus who called them Christians. Jesus never once uttered the word Christians to refer to his followers.

[Lukongsimi]

You obviously don't know when this born-again idea became popular, which is only lately.

How you know it’s not popular 2 thousand years ago ?
It’s in the Bible for centuries and have read by many people

[Ali Imran]

How you know it’s not popular 2 thousand years ago ?
It’s in the Bible for centuries and have read by many people

How I know? Good questions. 

I know because I read from your scholars.

[Lukongsimi]

Don't speak lies about me. I am not unhappy.

You said "Jesus said..." and I made it clear to you that it wasn't Jesus who called them Christians. Jesus never once uttered the word Christians to refer to his followers.

Jesus also never uttered the word Muslim

[pinkpanther]

Below read for fun hor.  Joke joke only har



Chinese have been in Malaysia since 1400s. As long as 600 y ago. Malayan folk heroes like Hang Tuah and Hang Jehan were Chinese.

Forwarded ...

INTERESTING MESSAGE FOR MALAYSIAN.
By Marina Mahathir.

This is a really good observation by Marina M. My utmost respect to her for her integrity and honesty!

Marina Mahathir on Malaysia National Anthem "Negara Ku".. Interesting!

She really made a very good point here, read on!

Posted on Marina M's blog in response to an article on the issue.

Some self-appointed defenders of Islam including the chief of "1Malaysia " have insisted that Catholics should use "Tuhan" instead of "Allah" to address the Catholic or Christian God. But in the national anthem, "Tuhan" (not "Allah") bless the country (...Tuhan kurniakan...). How now ?!!. If Malay-Muslims are that easily confused as portrayed by  some politicians, they must be thinking that Malaysia is blessed by the Catholic/Christian God, and the Muslim God "Allah" is perpetually on leave.

Perhaps, this confusion may cause the government to change the national anthem by replacing "Tuhan" with "Allah" But then again, non-muslims will not be allowed to sing the national anthem. Then it would be non|-muslims turn to be confused. If this issue goes to the courts, even the judges will get  headache and confused.

And not forgetting our 1st. Rukunegara  "Kepercayaan kepada TUHAN".  How???

SUBJECT: HARI INI DALAM SEJARAH

The Truth Revealed (with evidence)!

In June 1998, the government of Malaysia hired a team of experts from all over the world to gather in Malaysia for a research project to compliment the history studies that we undertook in our secondary school.

The objective of the research is simply:

1. To find proof and evidence that show the Malays were the origins of Malaysia and they were the first race and religion that landed in Malaysia

2. To further strengthen their claims, first they need to find the graveyards of Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and others.. to show the existence of their pioneers.

3. The Batu Bersurat in Terengganu, reveals that the islamic religion landed in Malaysia more than a hundred years ago which further strengthened their claims!

BEWARE & OPEN YOUR EYES !!

Go and ask your brother, sister, niece, nephew etc. Since the year 1999 (if I'm not mistaken) or year 2000, do they study about HANG TUAH anymore ?
Why is that popular subject GONE ?
Missing in action ?
Or evidence reveals something else that caused the government to stop the syllabus and HIDE the TRUTH ?

Here are the Evidences of the findings by the team of scientists archaeologist, historian and other technical staff from the United
States, United Kingdom, Germany, Canada, Yemen & Russia.

The evidence are:

1) They finally found the graveyards of Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat and others, their skeletons had been analyzed and samples of DNA taken with the results showing:

Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and mates were NOT MALAY !!
They were CHINESE origins (Islamic) from China !!!
Why were they here in Malacca?

If you go back in history, you would know that they were on a mission to protect the UNGRATEFUL MALAY Sultanate from the frequent attacks by the Kingdom of SIAM (Thailand).

So Hang Tuah was not a Malay hero !

They were the protectors of the useless and ungrateful Parameswara (who was from INDONESIA) who landed in Malacca and claimed that the land belonged to him!

Hang Tuah and friends were all from China, they were assigned to the Malacca Sultanate because Parameswara requested the Ming Dynasty Emperor for protection!
Hence, the rich historical heritage of the
Babas & Nyonyas were closely linked to the Seven Voyages to the Western Ocean by Admiral Zheng He who incidentally was a Chinese Muslim himself!
In fact the Babas and Nyonyas were one of the earliest descendants from the aristocratic lineage of Admiral Zheng He from China.

These Chinese have interbred with the Parameswara's people and till today are still more Chinese than Malay.

They follow Chinese customs, wear "baju kurung with kerosang", speaks bazaar Malay
language and Hokkien and they eat pork.

They co-celebrate every religion existing in this country such as Holy Mary and Jesus, Hindu god like the "hantu tetek" and even the Islamic "keramat".

This is the best integrated race and the earliest ever formed in Malaysia but yet they are non bumiputras even though they are
one of the earliest....earlier than the so called Malays if there is such a race !!!!
That's why the Hang Tuah series of history is MISSING from the Malaysian SEJARAH today!

It's shameful and they destroyed all
facts on Hang Tuah just to save their faces !!
Note: Remember Princess Hang Li Poh? - All surname 'HANG' (or ANG in Hokkien).

2) The researchers hired by the government found the oldest tombstones (graveyard) in Kelantan in year 2000. Surprisingly, the tombstones were at least 900 years old !
Older than the so-called Batu Bersurat.
And the interesting thing was that they all belonged to the CHINESE!

Having landed first in Malacca doesn't mean Malay is the first in Malaysia because during that time, the road was too long or
undeveloped for them to reach or see the other side of the coast where the Chinese had landed much earlier.

If you want the hard evidence of what the truth of the Research reveals, please write to The Federal Association of Archaeology & Research of Michigan, USA.

This is a good reason to remind the Bumiputras NOT to ask the Chinese
or Indians to go back to their Motherlands because the evidence had shown that Malays were NOT the original people of Malaysia ! Orang Asli with v dark skin and curly hair and African genes are the true bumiputras.

The Truth Revealed (with evidence) and anthropologists have yet to ascertain if there was indeed a Malay race !

Historically, prior to the influence of Islam, the Malay community did not use Arabic names. During that time, the regions that are now Malaysia and Indonesia were predominantly influenced by Indian and Chinese cultures. 

As a result, the naming conventions used by the Malays differed significantly from those used today, with little to no Arabic influence.

[Ali Imran]

How you know it’s not popular 2 thousand years ago ?
It’s in the Bible for centuries and have read by many people

For many centuries, Christians have followed the Vatican. Then now, Christians like you call the Christians at the Vatican as *%&*(%#%$*. Why? Because of new understandings.

Similarly, this born-again is a new understanding. It was started by evangelical Christians like you.

[Lukongsimi]

How I know? Good questions. 

I know because I read from your scholars.

That does not prove u r correct

[Lukongsimi]

For many centuries, Christians have followed the Vatican. Then now, Christians like you call the Christians at the Vatican as *%&*(%#%$*. Why? Because of new understandings.

Similarly, this born-again is a new understanding. It was started by evangelical Christians like you.

It’s in the Bible taught by Jesus 
Don’t twist and turn

[Ali Imran]

Jesus also never uttered the word Muslim

Yes agree. Muslim is an Arabic word and Jesus didn't speak Arabic.

But the description he gave in Matt 7:21 matches the definition of a Muslim.

[Lukongsimi]

Yes agree. Muslim is an Arabic word and Jesus didn't speak Arabic.

But the description he gave in Matt 7:21 matches the definition of a Muslim.

I saw jackfruit selling in market and u insist it’s Durians 
Above an example

[pinkpanther]

Jesus also never uttered the word Muslim

Jesus never mention ahmed wor....the 4 Gospels never mention wor..

[p1acebo]

Wow you all religious historians here

I’m way out of my league in this thread. Bye

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus never mention ahmed wor....the 4 Gospels never mention wor..

Don’t have means don’t have loh 
Cannot add or subtract words or will
Be cursed

[Lukongsimi]

I already mention 2 wills of the Father.

Where ?


What's the will of the Father in Matthew 7:21?
He says, the will of him that sent me, that every man that seeth the Son and believeth on him should have eternal life. The word believe has reference both to confession and conduct. He then who does not confess Christ, or does not walk according to His word, shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[pinkpanther]

Matthew 7:21 does not match with the moslems lah

Allah can be viewed as a provider and protector but the term "Father" in the conventional sense is not applicable in Islamic teachings lah....

You can only have a slave and master kind of relationship...Jesus is the son of God..can Allah have a son in any sense?

[pinkpanther]

Wow you all religious historians here

I’m way out of my league in this thread. Bye

Thank you for your participation lah 

[Ali Imran]

That does not prove u r correct

Do you know the history of Christianity better than your scholars?

[Ali Imran]

Where ?


What's the will of the Father in Matthew 7:21?
He says, the will of him that sent me, that every man that seeth the Son and believeth on him should have eternal life. The word believe has reference both to confession and conduct. He then who does not confess Christ, or does not walk according to His word, shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Do you walk according to Jesus's teachings? I can show you plenty of points where you don't follow what Jesus taught. Would you like to go through the points where you disobey Jesus again? I already did that with you but if you want to be reminded, I'd be glad to go through it again.

[Ali Imran]

I saw jackfruit selling in market and u insist it’s Durians 
Above an example

Jesus said "the one who does the will of the Father".

That is the exact definition of a Muslim, one who does the will of the Father or aka almighty God.

[cheekopekman]

Don't speak lies about me. I am not unhappy.

You said "Jesus said..." and I made it clear to you that it wasn't Jesus who called them Christians. Jesus never once uttered the word Christians to refer to his followers.

Sorry my friend Ali, I shouldn't mention you lah!  My apologies lah!

[pinkpanther]

Notice how the Muslim perspective attempts to create a distinction between Jesus and God, asserting that the Father is the ultimate authority..... if you break down words by words, it reveals parallels to Islamic belief in tawhid, however the inclusion of the term "Father" makes the entire verse contradictory to Islamic faith..

[Lukongsimi]

Do you walk according to Jesus's teachings? I can show you plenty of points where you don't follow what Jesus taught. Would you like to go through the points where you disobey Jesus again? I already did that with you but if you want to be reminded, I'd be glad to go through it again.

N u walk according to your muh or Christ teachings?