Scripture readings for Christmas

(22-01-2025, 08:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Of course, I want to get to Paradise because I will be in hell if I don't get there. 

I don't care much about virgins. I'm happy with my 1 wife.
You did not obey God’s will to believe in Jesus who came to save the world how are u gg to get into paradise ?
There is no short cut or good deeds to save you 
How you prostrate or fast doesn’t help!
That is the truth !


“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭1‬, ‭9‬-‭18‬ ‭KJV

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 12:49 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  The truth allows of only one interpretation. The basic truths of the Christian faith affirmed by the Apostles' Creed - the Holy Trinity, Christ's work of atonement and His resurrection - are on a collision course with your Islamic beliefs. Hence, your positions on these issues are diametrically opposed to those of ours. We could discourse until we're blue in the face, but we'll never agree.

Well, you may pooh-pooh the testimonies of Christian believers, but you forgot the proof is in the pudding - that of having a mystical relationship with God and getting to enjoy the benefits of salvation - healing, health, safety, deliverance, soundness and wholeness. Your disinclination for a mystical experience is understandable, given that Islam, which has no fatherly concept of God, isn't about fellowship with God, but service, submission and allegiance to Allah.

A good many people nowadays say, "I believe in God, but not in a personal God." They add that God is beyond personality and think of Him as something impersonal, that is something less than personal. If you're looking for something super-personal, something more than a person, the God of the Bible offers mankind a personal relationship of great intimacy. The Christian idea is the only one on the market.

These are just some of the differences between the god put forth in the Qur'an and the God of the Bible. The god portrayed in the Qur'an is not the God described in the Christian Scriptures and, in fact, doesn't even exist (Isaiah 46:9).

What have you studied about Islam? I am guessing you haven't done any serious study on Islam or the Quran.

Jesus affirmed Islam as the correct faith to have but you don't seem to be interested to learn about Islam. Why?
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(22-01-2025, 08:29 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  You did not obey God’s will to believe in Jesus who came to save the world how are u gg to get into paradise ?
There is no short cut or good deeds to save you 
How you prostrate or fast doesn’t help!
That is the truth !


“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭1‬, ‭9‬-‭18‬ ‭KJV

Let me ask you this. Are you Jesus's sheep? Are you an Israelite?
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Mohammad never fails to amuse me.....the black guy mati already and what is the point of increasing his wealth when he is dead....I can come up with a top 10 like what David Letterman did for his show.. Big Grin
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Rotfl
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Rotfl
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(22-01-2025, 08:48 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Let me ask you this. Are you Jesus's sheep? Are you an Israelite?
Yes
I heard Jesus ‘s voice since a kid saw His face


“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 08:53 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yes
I heard Jesus ‘s voice since a kid saw His face


“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV

This one i like

Psalm 23:1–6
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake
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(22-01-2025, 08:53 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yes
I heard Jesus ‘s voice since a kid


“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV

Before the book of John was written, Jesus only said that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel. And then a few decades later, another author made Jesus changed his mind and added other people as well. 

Why like that?
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(22-01-2025, 08:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Before the book of John was written, Jesus only said that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel. And then a few decades later, another author made Jesus changed his mind and added other people as well. 

Why like that?
U see u always doubt the Bible 
And argue even you are given a chance to repent and receive Christ 
as your savior how to get into paradise ?
Jesus said you must be like a little children obedient and listen to His words 
Time waits for no man 
You are given a choice

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 08:57 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This one i like

Psalm 23:1–6
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake
I used to meditate this psalm 
I love it too

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 08:53 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  [Image: images-1.png]
Rotfl
Don’t have this sex thing in the Bible

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(22-01-2025, 09:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U see u always doubt the Bible 
And argue even you are given a chance to repent and receive Christ 
as your savior how to get into paradise ?
Jesus said you must be like a little children obedient and listen to His words 
Time waits for no man 
You are given a choice

The Bible is like that. It gives people doubts with its many such contradictions. It confuses people. 

At first, we are told Jesus said "No signs shall be given". And then, a decade later, we are told Jesus said there will be a sign given, the sign of Jonah. Why like that?
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Jesus affirmed Islam as the correct faith to have but you don't seem to be interested to learn about Islam. Why?

Rotfl Jesus affirmed to who? Who wrote down what Jesus said from the Quran?
Islam took some parts from judaism and some from Christianity and call its own...it is a rojak mix of both lah....
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(22-01-2025, 09:18 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t have this sex thing in the Bible

Sex is the only important thing they are interested in... Big Grin
Even in heaven still want sex!! Big Grin
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(22-01-2025, 09:20 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Bible is like that. It gives people doubts with its many such contradictions. It confuses people. 

At first, we are told Jesus said "No signs shall be given". And then, a decade later, we are told Jesus said there will be a sign given, the sign of Jonah. Why like that?
Very stubborn old man 
U can talk to the wall it has ears but no reply 
Better for you

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(22-01-2025, 09:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Sex is the only important thing there are interested in... Big Grin
Even in heaven still want sex!! Big Grin

Unbelievable 
Not the same teachings as the Bible

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 09:31 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Very stubborn old man 
U can talk to the wall it has ears but no reply 
Better for you

Yes, you cannot explain why the NT is like that. It confuses people. 

How to trust that it is telling the truth when it gives contradictory stories?
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(22-01-2025, 09:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, you cannot explain why the NT is like that. It confuses people. 

How to trust that it is telling the truth when it gives contradictory stories?

Hello
Words cannot anyhow say will
Be recorded

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 09:33 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Unbelievable 
Not the same teachings as the Bible

The Bible places a high value on life...after Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross, there is no longer a need for further bloodshed. In contrast, the Quran emphasizes practices such as sacrificing lambs in obedience, and fasting as a means to draw closer to God, even at the risk of one’s own life. Thousands died worldwide yearly from fasting on Ramadan!

This highlights some of the negative consequences that can arise from embracing Islam.....AlhamduliYeshua!
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(22-01-2025, 09:42 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible places a high value on life...after Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross, there is no longer a need for further bloodshed. In contrast, the Quran emphasizes practices such as sacrificing lambs in obedience, and fasting as a means to draw closer to God, even at the risk of one’s own life. 

This highlights some of the negative consequences that can arise from embracing Islam.....AlhamduliYeshua!

Jesus said it’s finish on the cross 
Yet they don’t believe Him 
But Many Moslems saw Jesus n repent and were saved

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(22-01-2025, 09:37 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Hello
Words cannot anyhow say will
Be recorded

You just cannot see what I'm showing to you.

Your religion is the worship of a man who was practicing a religion that is at odds with Christianity. The religion Jesus was practicing rejects Christianity. 

Remove your Christian lens and look at what I've just said.
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(22-01-2025, 09:49 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You just cannot see what I'm showing to you.

Your religion is the worship of a man who was practicing a religion that is at odds with Christianity. The religion Jesus was practicing rejects Christianity. 

Remove your Christian lens and look at what I've just said.

I know u r talking about Paul right?

Don’t anyhow accuse I worship man ho!
Christianity is about relationship with God not a religion

If eve didn’t listen to the serpent there will
Be no sinners

The 2 faked moslems pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
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(22-01-2025, 09:56 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I know u r talking about Paul right?

Don’t anyhow accuse I worship man ho!
Christianity is about relationship with God not a religion

Yes lah
Christianity is about a personal relationship with God.....
Islam is about a slave and master relationship with Allah...
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(22-01-2025, 09:56 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I know u r talking about Paul right?

Don’t anyhow accuse I worship man ho!
Christianity is about relationship with God not a religion

If eve didn’t listen to the serpent there will
Be no sinners

No, I'm not talking about Paul. 

You worship a man who was practicing a religion that rejects Christianity. How ironic is that?
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(22-01-2025, 10:08 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, I'm not talking about Paul. 

You worship a man who was practicing a religion that rejects Christianity. How ironic is that?
Who?
Dare not say?
U r talking about yourself?

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Muslims, why would Allah kill 700 people when they came to worship him?
Every year sure got people die during the Mecca Pilgrimage
Why moslems don cherish life? Is it a case of easy come easy go?
You are more likely to die early if you embrace the religion....that's a fact!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/haj-stampe...-1.3241320
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(22-01-2025, 10:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Who?
Dare not say?
U r talking about yourself?

Jesus, the son of Mary, peace be upon him. 

You worship a man who was practicing a religion that rejects your faith.
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(22-01-2025, 10:37 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus, the son of Mary, peace be upon him. 

You worship a man who was practicing a religion that rejects your faith.

Jesus is God not an ordinary man.
He is still alive n in heaven.

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(22-01-2025, 11:20 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus is God not an ordinary man.
He is still alive n in heaven.

According to your creed, Jesus is fully man. We both agree with that.

With your Christian lens on, you see a God in Jesus so you ignore that part where he is a man but if you remove your lens, you will see the irony of your faith.
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