Scripture readings for Christmas

(07-02-2025, 04:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So which English Translation is the Word of God? You moslems get confused over your own translations Big Grin

Bump! The moslems can't answer
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(07-02-2025, 06:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  They can’t answer smart question lah

This is called blind faith bro Big Grin
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. Those who reject (Truth) Among the People of the Book And among the Polytheists, Were not going to depart (From their ways) until There should come to them Clear Evidence,—
٢- رَسُولٌ مِّنَ اللَّـهِ يَتْلُو صُحُفًا مُّطَهَّرَةً ◯
2. An apostle from God, Rehearsing scriptures Kept pure and holy :
٣- فِيهَا كُتُبٌ قَيِّمَةٌ ◯
3. Wherein are laws (or decrees) Right and straight.
٤- وَمَا تَفَرَّقَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ إِلَّا مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَةُ ◯
4. Nor did the People Of the Book Make schisms, Until after there came To them Clear Evidence.
٥- وَمَا أُمِرُوا إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوا اللَّـهَ مُخْلِصِينَ لَهُ الدِّينَ حُنَفَاءَ وَيُقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُوا الزَّكَاةَ ۚ وَذَٰلِكَ دِينُ الْقَيِّمَةِ ◯
5. And they have been commanded No more than this : To worship God, Offering Him sincere devotion, being True (in faith) ; To establish regular Prayer ; And to practice regular Charity ; And that is the Religion Right and Straight.
٦- إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ أُولَـٰئِكَ هُمْ شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ ◯
6. Those who reject (Truth) Among the People of the Book And among the Polytheists, Will be in hell-fire, To dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.
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Muslims believe that Jews and Christians have strayed from God's true faith but hold them in higher esteem than pagans and unbelievers. They call Jews and Christians the "People of the Book" and allow them to practice their own religions.
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Hope converted into Christianity 

https://youtu.be/8xI9JQyc9Z0

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(06-02-2025, 07:52 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 NIV. Read the Bible lah! Big Grin

It’s only a belief.

If you realised  after your death that 
-God never took the form of a man
-God never shared his authority 
-God is the final Judge who sits on his throne 
-Promised heaven based only on faith is a delusion 

What action will you take?

Like every one else, Jesus, Disciples,Authors, church leaders will be there too.


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Consider the Day˺ when those who misled others will disown their followers—when they face the torment—and the bonds that united them will be cut off.


The ˹misled˺ followers will cry, “If only we could have a second chance, we would disown them as they disowned us.” And so Allah will make them remorseful of their misdeeds. And they will never ˹be able to˺ leave the Fire.”

Quran 2:166-167
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(07-02-2025, 05:55 PM)Hope Wrote:  Can every Christian take communion or only Catholic?

Only baptised church members are allowed to partake of the Holy Communion lah! Big Grin I'm not a Roman Catholic so I don't know about them lah!
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(06-02-2025, 09:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  According to the hadith, quran and scholars...the Islamic hell is only temporary..the Christian hell is forever my friend

Christian hell and heaven are delusion

Can you describe your hell and heaven?
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(07-02-2025, 07:11 PM)Hope Wrote:  Christian hell and heaven are delusion

Can you describe your hell and heaven?

There is only 1 HELL and 1 HEAVEN lah! Big Grin Which 1 you want to go leh? Thinking
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(06-02-2025, 10:27 PM)Opinkpanther Wrote:  He is a catholic but he is right to criticize this lily Jay...this lady has no brains of her own

She is not a Muslim.
She was a Christian.
She is learning all the religions.

Sam was not a catholic.He was a faithful of one of the Christian sects.He converted to Catholicism and then to another sect .
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(06-02-2025, 10:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No one knows how long.. As long as Allah please....but everyone will go to paradise eventually

Not every one go to heaven.
Not every born Muslim go to heaven.
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(07-02-2025, 06:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is called blind faith bro Big Grin
No photoshop Edit.

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(07-02-2025, 07:19 PM)Hope Wrote:  Not every one go to heaven.
Not every born Muslim go to heaven.

Eventually the moslem hell will be empty and all will enter paradise...if I can show you the Hadith..will you convert to christianity? Big Grin
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(07-02-2025, 07:20 PM)Blin Wrote:  No photoshop Edit. Can someone see Jesus, Angel And Mary .clockwise left to right.

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(07-02-2025, 07:19 PM)Hope Wrote:  Not every one go to heaven.
Not every born Muslim go to heaven.

Sahih Bukhari 6571

"I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.'
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(07-02-2025, 07:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Sahih Bukhari 6571

"I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.'
No woman ?

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(07-02-2025, 07:20 PM)Blin Wrote:  No photoshop Edit.

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Doubt anyone can see what was there

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(07-02-2025, 07:37 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  No woman ?

Rotfl Muhammad says majority are women
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The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I know the person who will be the last to come out of the (Hell) Fire, and the last to enter Paradise. He will be a man who will come out of the (Hell) Fire crawling, and Allah will say to him, 'Go and enter Paradise.' He will go to it, but he will imagine that it had been filled, and then he will return and say, 'O Lord, I have found it full.' Allah will say, 'Go and enter Paradise, and you will have what equals the world and ten times as much (or, you will have as much as ten times the like of the world).' On that, the man will say, 'Do you mock at me (or laugh at me) though You are the King?" I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (while saying that) smiling that his premolar teeth became visible. It is said that will be the lowest in degree amongst the people of Paradise
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(06-02-2025, 10:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Surah Al Ikhlas contradicts your shahada..4. Nor is there to Him any equivalent....
Muhammad is His equivalent....a person cannot be a moslem unless he acknowledges Muhammad as a messenger...Allah needs one to acknowledge Muhammad before he can be accepted as a moslem...this is ridiculous..this is not tawhid

You know what it sounds like? To watch a movie..you need to buy the popcorn tactics...but I just want to watch the movie!

Where does it contradict?I have given both chapter and declaration of faith for comparison.

Declaration of faith emphasises Muhammad is the messenger only . He is not equal to Allah like Roman equalised Jesus to Allah.
Chapter indicates Allah is one ,No sons like Roman’s fictional story.


Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

Allah—the Sustainer ˹needed by all˺.

He has never had offspring, nor was He born.

And there is none comparable to Him.”

Quran chapter 112:1-4


Sahada-Declaration of faith 

"There is no god but Allah , and Muhammad is the Messenger of God”
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(07-02-2025, 08:39 PM)Hope Wrote:  Where does it contradict?I have given both chapter and declaration of faith for comparison.

Declaration of faith emphasises Muhammad is the messenger only . He is not equal to Allah like Roman equalised Jesus to Allah.
Chapter indicates Allah is one ,No sons like Roman’s fictional story.


Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

Allah—the Sustainer ˹needed by all˺.

He has never had offspring, nor was He born.

And there is none comparable to Him.”

Quran chapter 112:1-4


Sahada-Declaration of faith 

"There is no god but  Allah , and Muhammad is the Messenger of God”

The emphasis should be on God alone....when you say your shahada only to god alone.it is already a form of acknowledgement for the messengers that he had sent. 

You look at other religions their shahada or their prayers to God...it is directly to God only and no one else....for eg have you heard anyone with their declaration of faith to lord Krishna or guanyin or any deities mention anyone else? No! Only Islam wants you to pay special homage to Muhammad  Big Grin
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If you believe in Allah only, you cannot be a moslem without accepting that Muhammad is His messenger....

Muhammad is the key not Allah..my moslem bros...go think it thru Big Grin
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(07-02-2025, 08:59 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The emphasis should be on God alone....when you say your shahada only to god alone.it is already a form of acknowledgement for the messengers that he had sent. 

You look at other religions their shahada or their prayers to God...it is directly to God only and no one else....for eg have you heard anyone with their declaration of faith to lord Krishna or guanyin or any deities mention anyone else? No! Only Islam wants you to pay special homage to Muhammad  Big Grin
N they mock at us worshipping man who is God Himself.
Their muh not a man?lppl

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(07-02-2025, 07:14 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  There is only 1 HELL and 1 HEAVEN lah! Big Grin Which 1 you want to go leh? Thinking

No answer again.😂

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(07-02-2025, 07:13 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is moral kidnapping or hijacking to accept Muhammad before you are allowed to pray to Allah or to be moslem....ergo this is one of many reasons why the religion of peace cannot be true.. Big Grin

Sex with 9 wives in 1 night ,only with 1 shower ..."Go bite your father's p_nis" statement.......take Muhammad away from your shahada then you truly have a shahada dedicated to only one God and that is tawhid my moslem friends

Are you wiser than Allah?
Allah asked the members of nation of Muhammad to salute/ Praise prophet Muhammad like did to the nation of other prophets.

Like your fictional writers who taught only way to father is through Jesus, Allah or Prophet Muhammad didn’t say only way to Allah is Muhammad.Allah asked us to send our salute and praise to Prophet Muhammad.Allah did not make Muhammad a God or son like your fictional writers who made Jesus a God and Son of God.

Quran / prophet Muhammad/ Muslim never omitted Allah like you did to Yahwah. Why is Yahweh not important in your religion?

Why are you Questioning why is Prophet Muhammad is higher than Allah , while not Questioning your self why is Jesus higher than Yahweh?

You are questioning morality of Prophet Muhammad, why don’t you Question your authors how can they make a man who was accused by his society as illegitimate child?
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(07-02-2025, 08:56 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You stupiak fool...You are experiencing doubts and confusions because you are misinterpreting every thing....How can you claim that when your God supports the scriptures and instructs Muslims to believe in them? Big Grin

Muslim belive Torah given to Moses, Psalm given to David,Injeel Given to Jesus.
We don’t believe Old Testament , New Testament and Bible.
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(07-02-2025, 11:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God communicates directly with all these prophets you mentioned....for Allah..there is a hierarchy to follow...He does not communicate directly to humans not even Muhammad...so you have no grounds to call these prophets moslem

Are you wiser than Allah?
Are you the creator, controller and guardian of this universe?
So Allah will do what he wants.
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(07-02-2025, 11:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  All dead should never be mentioned...do you agree?

What about Mary, Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, Moses?
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(07-02-2025, 11:33 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There is no Bible verses to support but both Christianity and Islam agree that unborn babies go to heaven.....

Where did Islam say?
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(07-02-2025, 11:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You are right...worship Allah alone...the deads should not even be mentioned by name because it is not befitting of God to have someone's name mentioned in a shahada

Are you wiser than Allah?

We follow Allah.
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