Scripture readings for Christmas

(23-02-2025, 09:53 AM)Hope Wrote:  Both verses you mentioned refer to Quran only.


“The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearing, All- Knowing.”Quran 6:115

“Recite what has been revealed to you from the Book of your Lord. None can change His Words, nor can you find any refuge besides Him.”Quran 18:27

Allah sent Moses and Jesus to guide Israelites only.
Their teachings weren’t meant for non descendants of Jacob.

Before Islam, is the torah and Gospel the word of God?
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(23-02-2025, 09:48 AM)Hope Wrote:  Jesus was sent ONLY FOR Israelites.
Israelites didn’t accept him. Hence why should Allah protect the Injeel given to him?
Before Question Allah, you should Question yourself why you have to accept and follow the teachings not meant for Indian, Chinese ,African or non descendants of Jacob.

It is recorded in Matthew 15: 24 “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

Who says it is only for the Israelites?

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him” (John. 3:16-17).

Show me quranic verse that Muhammad is for all mankind?
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(23-02-2025, 10:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who says it is only for the Israelites?

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him” (John. 3:16-17).

Show me quranic verse that Muhammad is for all mankind?
Isn’t your bible verse (John 3:16-17)contradicting with Mathew 15:24?

There are so many Quran verses. I have pasted few.



“O HUMANITY!There has come to you conclusive evidence from your Lord. And We have sent down to you a brilliant light.”Quran 4:174

“We have sent you ˹O Prophet˺ only as a mercy for the WHOLE WORLD.”21:107

“But it is simply a reminder to the WHOLE World .”Quran 68:52

“This is an insight to HUMANITY —a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing.”Quran 3:138


“Alif-Lãm-Ra. ˹This is˺ a Book which We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ so that you may lead PEOPLE out of darkness and into light, by the Will of their Lord, to the Path of the Almighty, the Praiseworthy—““Quran 14:1

“This ˹Quran˺ is a ˹sufficient˺ message FOR HUMANITY so that they may take it as a warning and know that there is only One God, and so that people of reason may be mindful”Quran 14:52
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(23-02-2025, 10:13 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Before Islam, is the torah and Gospel the word of God?

Not before Islam,It Should be Before Quran .

Yes Suhfu,Torah, Sabur,Injeel and other scriptures ( Quran didn’t named)were given by Allah before Quran only for certain people and period.

When the new scripture came, it superseded the previous scriptures.
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Jesus is the way the truth and the life
How come nobody dreamt of muh in paradise but only Jesus ?
No point to argue
Only for reading lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 10:40 AM)Hope Wrote:  Not before Islam,It Should be Before Quran .

Yes Suhfu,Torah, Sabur,Injeel and other scriptures ( Quran didn’t named)were given by Allah before Quran only for certain people and period.

When the new scripture came, it superseded the previous scriptures.

The Quran contradicts previous scriptures....how can you say it superseded previous scriptures...why would Allah want to get rid of all the jews before judgement day can take place...we don believe in the Quran whereby one word can have several meanings ...that's why we have many moslems misinterpreting it and led astray!
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(23-02-2025, 11:30 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Quran contradicts previous scriptures....how can you say it superseded previous scriptures...why would Allah want to get rid of all the jews before judgement day can take place...we don believe in the Quran whereby one word can have several meanings ...that's why we have many moslems misinterpreting it and led astray!


“Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”

Quran 2:256


“Have they not travelled throughout the land so their hearts may reason, and their ears may listen? Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.”Quran 22:46
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And indeed, We adorned the lowest heaven with ˹stars like˺ lamps, and made them ˹as missiles˺ for stoning ˹eavesdropping˺ devils, for whom We have also prepared the torment of the Blaze.


Those who disbelieve in their Lord will suffer the punishment of Hell. What an evil destination!

When they are tossed into it, they will hear its roaring as it boils over,

“almost bursting in fury. Every time a group is cast into it, its keepers will ask them, “Did a warner not come to you?”

They will reply, “Yes, a warner did come to us, but we denied and said, ‘Allah has revealed nothing. You are extremely astray.’”

And they will lament, “If only we had listened and reasoned, we would not be among the residents of the Blaze!”

And so they will confess their sins. So away with the residents of the Blaze!

Indeed, those in awe of their Lord without seeing Him will have forgiveness and a mighty reward.”

Quran 67:5-11
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(23-02-2025, 10:47 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus is the way the truth and the life
How come nobody dreamt of muh in paradise but only Jesus ?
No point to argue
Only for reading lol


You can see Jesus in dreams as you have a kind of image of him.
Can you see your grandfather’s Grandpa in your dreams ?


“Are you ˹O Prophet˺ not aware of the one who argued with Abraham about his Lord because Allah had granted him kingship? ˹Remember˺ when Abraham said, “My Lord is the One Who has power to give life and cause death.” He argued, “I too have the power to give life and cause death.” Abraham challenged ˹him˺, “Allah causes the sun to rise from the east. So make it rise from the west.” And so the disbeliever was dumbstruck. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.”Quran 2:258
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(23-02-2025, 12:34 PM)Hope Wrote:  “Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”

Quran 2:256


“Have they not travelled throughout the land so their hearts may reason, and their ears may listen? Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.”Quran 22:46

There are signs of The living God around us bro...but there are no signs of Allah
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I have no image of the sg talkers but I still dream of how some looks like.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Pray 5 times n fast should at least dream how your muh looks like but no…

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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I can even saw the fourth dimension one late nite while driving

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 12:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There are signs of The living God around us bro...but there are no signs of Allah

You are typing in this forum.Isn’t It a sign of Allah?

-you are still alive( who keeps you alive ?)

-you can read my message (Who gave eyes , Brain and Heart you to understand?)

-You replied to me ( Who gave the intellect and fingers to you?)

-You may be having meal while typing ( who gave the sustenance, hunger, mouth and stomach to you?)

-You may be chatting with your friends or Family ( who made the bond between you and them?


-You have a house ( who gave the house to you?)

-It is raining now( who brings rain to your dead land and also water to drink)

-Sky will be darker another few hours time ( who brings the dark over light for us to sleep?)

“We turn their hearts and eyes away ˹from the truth˺ as they refused to believe at first, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 6:110


Even if We had sent them the angels, made the dead speak to them, and assembled before their own eyes every sign ˹they demanded˺, they still would not have believed—unless Allah so willed. But most of them are ignorant ˹of this˺.”Quran 6:111
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““Everything belongs to the Lord your God. The heavens, even the highest heavens, belong to him. The earth and everything on it belong to him. The Lord loved your ancestors very much. He loved them so much that he chose you, their descendants, to be his people. He chose you instead of any other nation, and you are still his chosen people today. “Stop being stubborn. Give your hearts to God. The Lord is your God. He is the God of gods and the Lord of Lords. He is the great God. He is the amazing and powerful fighter. To him everyone is the same. He does not accept money to change his mind.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭10‬:‭14‬-‭17‬ ‭ERV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 02:16 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  ““Everything belongs to the Lord your God. The heavens, even the highest heavens, belong to him. The earth and everything on it belong to him. The Lord loved your ancestors very much. He loved them so much that he chose you, their descendants, to be his people. He chose you instead of any other nation, and you are still his chosen people today. “Stop being stubborn. Give your hearts to God. The Lord is your God. He is the God of gods and the Lord of Lords. He is the great God. He is the amazing and powerful fighter. To him everyone is the same. He does not accept money to change his mind.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭10‬:‭14‬-‭17‬ ‭ERV

Deuteronomy?

Book of the Torah?

Are you a follower of Moses?

Are you a Jew who insulted the birth of Jesus?
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“With Him are the keys of the unseen—no one knows them except Him.And He knows what is in the land and sea. Not even a leaf falls without His knowledge, nor a grain in the darkness of the earth or anything—green or dry—but is ˹written˺ in a perfect Record.” Quran 6:59
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(23-02-2025, 01:04 PM)Hope Wrote:  You are typing in this forum.Isn’t It a sign of Allah?

-you are still alive( who keeps you alive ?)

-you can read my message (Who gave eyes , Brain and Heart you to understand?)

-You replied to me ( Who gave the intellect and fingers to you?)

-You may be having meal while typing ( who gave the sustenance, hunger, mouth and stomach to you?)

-You may be chatting with your friends or Family ( who made the bond between you and them?


-You have a house ( who gave the house to you?)

-It is raining now( who brings rain to your dead land and also water to drink)

-Sky will be darker another few hours time ( who brings the dark over light for us to sleep?)

“We turn their hearts and eyes away ˹from the truth˺ as they refused to believe at first, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 6:110


Even if We had sent them the angels, made the dead speak to them, and assembled before their own eyes every sign ˹they demanded˺, they still would not have believed—unless Allah so willed. But most of them are ignorant ˹of this˺.”Quran 6:111

I'm referring to the presence of God lah! You are just referring that every actions one does is a sign from God? How do you know it is not from Satan? Big Grin
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(23-02-2025, 02:21 PM)Hope Wrote:  “With Him are the keys of the unseen—no one knows them except Him.And He knows what is in the land and sea. Not even a leaf falls without His knowledge, nor a grain in the darkness of the earth or anything—green or dry—but is ˹written˺ in a perfect Record.” Quran 6:59

Psalm 139:1-4 (NIV): "You have searched me, Lord, and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue, you, Lord, know it completely."
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Even in NT

Hebrews 2:10-18
Contemporary English Version
10 Everything belongs to God, and all things were created by his power. So God did the right thing when he made Jesus perfect by suffering, as Jesus led many of God's children to be saved and to share in his glory. 11 Jesus and the people he makes holy all belong to the same family. This is why he isn't ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. 12 He even said to God,

“I will tell them your name
and sing your praises
when they come together
to worship.”
13 He also said,

“I will trust God.”
Then he said,

“Here I am with the children
God has given me.”
14 We are people of flesh and blood. This is why Jesus became one of us. He died to destroy the devil, who had power over death. 15 But he also died to rescue all of us who live each day in fear of dying. 16 Jesus clearly did not come to help angels, but he did come to help Abraham's descendants. 17 He had to be one of us, so he could serve God as our merciful and faithful high priest and sacrifice himself for the forgiveness of our sins. 18 And now that Jesus has suffered and was tempted, he can help anyone else who is tempted.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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King Of Kings And Lord Of Lords
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Revelation 19:16 ESV / 64 helpful votes 
On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Revelation 17:14 ESV / 48 helpful votes 
They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.”
1 Timothy 6:15 ESV / 41 helpful votes 
Which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
Revelation 19:11-16 ESV / 33 helpful votes 
Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. ...
Zechariah 14:9 ESV / 25 helpful votes 
And the Lord will be king over all the earth. On that day the Lord will be one and his name one.
Philippians 2:10 ESV / 22 helpful votes 
So that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Isaiah 9:6 ESV / 20 helpful votes 
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Genesis 1:1 ESV / 18 helpful votes 
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Peter 3:18 ESV / 17 helpful votes 
But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Daniel 2:47 ESV / 15 helpful votes 
The king answered and said to Daniel, “Truly, your God is God of gods and Lord of kings, and a revealer of mysteries, for you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
Deuteronomy 10:17 ESV / 15 helpful votes 
For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.
1 John 5:20 ESV / 14 helpful votes 
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
Philippians 2:9-11 ESV / 14 helpful votes 
Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Revelation 1:5 ESV / 13 helpful votes 
And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
1 Timothy 1:17 ESV / 13 helpful votes 
To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 11:15 ESV / 10 helpful votes 
Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.”
Genesis 1:26 ESV / 10 helpful votes 
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Revelation 22:3 ESV / 9 helpful votes 
No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him.
Matthew 3:3 ESV / 8 helpful votes 
For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah when he said, “The voice of one crying in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of the Lord; make his paths straight.’”

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Daniel 7:13-14 ESV / 8 helpful votes

“I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.

Acts 10:36 ESV / 7 helpful votes

As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all),

John 3:2 ESV / 7 helpful votes

This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.”

Micah 5:2 ESV / 7 helpful votes

But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days.

Psalm 136:3 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Give thanks to the Lord of lords, for his steadfast love endures forever;

Hebrews 1:2 ESV / 6 helpful votes

But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

1 Timothy 6:15-16 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.

John 20:28 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 19:37 ESV / 6 helpful votes

And again another Scripture says, “They will look on him whom they have pierced.”

John 10:30 ESV / 6 helpful votes

I and the Father are one.”

Luke 2:11 ESV / 6 helpful votes

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Isaiah 44:6 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Hebrews 1:3 ESV / 5 helpful votes

He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

1 Timothy 6:14-16 ESV / 5 helpful votes

To keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.

John 12:41 ESV / 5 helpful votes

Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him.

John 8:24 ESV / 5 helpful votes

I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”

Isaiah 43:10 ESV / 5 helpful votes

“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.

Exodus 3:14 ESV / 5 helpful votes

God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”

2 Peter 1:11 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

James 2:19 ESV / 4 helpful votes

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

Hebrews 1:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands;

Hebrews 1:8 ESV / 4 helpful votes

But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

Titus 2:13 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Colossians 1:16-18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.

Colossians 1:16-17 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Ephesians 1:20-21 ESV / 4 helpful votes

That he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.

1 Corinthians 16:2 ESV / 4 helpful votes

On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Acts 15:1-41 ESV / 4 helpful votes

But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.” ...

Acts 10:38 ESV / 4 helpful votes

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

Acts 7:59 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

Acts 1:9-11 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

John 17:5 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

John 14:26 ESV / 4 helpful votes

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 14:23 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

John 14:1-31 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” ...

John 8:58 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

John 5:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 4:24 ESV / 4 helpful votes

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

John 3:16 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:13 ESV / 4 helpful votes

No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

John 1:29 ESV / 4 helpful votes

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

John 1:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

John 1:1 ESV / 4 helpful votes

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:1-3 ESV / 4 helpful votes

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:1-14 ESV / 4 helpful votes

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ...

Luke 1:35 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.

Matthew 28:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Matthew 24:30 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:23-27 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Matthew 10:20 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Matthew 5:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Matthew 5:17 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Matthew 1:23 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).

Matthew 1:21 ESV / 4 helpful votes

She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

Matthew 1:20 ESV / 4 helpful votes

But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 1:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.

Malachi 3:1 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me. And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the Lord of hosts.

Malachi 2:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Malachi 1:14 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Cursed be the cheat who has a male in his flock, and vows it, and yet sacrifices to the Lord what is blemished. For I am a great King, says the Lord of hosts, and my name will be feared among the nations.

Zechariah 12:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

Isaiah 9:6-7 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this.

Psalm 136:2-3 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Give thanks to the God of gods, for his steadfast love endures forever. Give thanks to the Lord of lords, for his steadfast love endures forever;

Psalm 95:3 ESV / 4 helpful votes

For the Lord is a great God, and a great King above all gods.

Psalm 24:8-10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Who is this King of glory? The Lord, strong and mighty, the Lord, mighty in battle! Lift up your heads, O gates! And lift them up, O ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory! Selah

1 Chronicles 29:11 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are exalted as head above all.

Revelation 22:20 ESV / 3 helpful votes

He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!

Revelation 19:1-21 ESV / 3 helpful votes

After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, for his judgments are true and just; for he has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality, and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.” Once more they cried out, “Hallelujah! The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, “Amen. Hallelujah!” And from the throne came a voice saying, “Praise our God, all you his servants, you who fear him, small and great.” ...

Revelation 1:8 ESV / 3 helpful votes

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

2 Peter 3:10 ESV / 3 helpful votes

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

2 Peter 1:1 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 4:19 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Therefore let those who suffer according to God's will entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing good.

1 Peter 3:22 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

Hebrews 13:8 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Hebrews 1:6 ESV / 3 helpful votes

And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.”

Titus 1:2 ESV / 3 helpful votes

In hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began

1 Timothy 6:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes

I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession,

1 Thessalonians 4:17 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Colossians 2:9 ESV / 3 helpful votes

For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,

Colossians 1:19 ESV / 3 helpful votes

For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell,

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For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 12:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pray 5 times n fast should at least dream how your muh looks like but no…

We just ask for a simple evidence of Allah existent but they cannot provide.
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(23-02-2025, 02:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Psalm 139:1-4 (NIV): "You have searched me, Lord, and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue, you, Lord, know it completely."

Are you a follower of David to read psalm?


Injeel superseded the Torah and psalm 😜
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(23-02-2025, 02:42 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I'm referring to the presence of God lah! You are just referring that every actions one does is a sign from God? How do you know it is not from Satan? Big Grin

Allah has taken the fitrah out of you. That is why.


fitrah is the innate human nature that recognizes Allah's oneness and the natural inclination to submit to Him



Whoever Allah allows to stray, none can guide, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 7:186


But whoever turns away from My Reminder will certainly have a miserable life,then We will raise them up blind on the Day of Judgment.”

They will cry, “My Lord! Why have you raised me up blind, although I used to see?”

Allah will respond, “It is so, just as Our revelations came to you and you neglected them, so Today you are neglected.”

Quran 20:124-126
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What is the use of supersede
N not understanding where it is from?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 03:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We just ask for a simple evidence of Allah existent but they cannot provide.



Whoever Allah allows to stray, none can guide, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 7:186
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““Whoever hears these teachings of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. It rained hard, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house. But it did not fall because it was built on rock. “Whoever hears these teachings of mine and does not obey them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. It rained hard, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house. And it fell with a loud crash.” When Jesus finished speaking, the people were amazed at his teaching. He did not teach like their teachers of the law. He taught like someone who has authority.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭24‬-‭29‬ ‭ERV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-02-2025, 03:57 PM)Hope Wrote:  Allah has taken the fitrah out of you. That is why.


fitrah is the innate human nature that recognizes Allah's oneness and the natural inclination to submit to Him



Whoever Allah allows to stray, none can guide, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 7:186


But whoever turns away from My Reminder will certainly have a miserable life,then We will raise them up blind on the Day of Judgment.”

They will cry, “My Lord! Why have you raised me up blind, although I used to see?”

Allah will respond, “It is so, just as Our revelations came to you and you neglected them, so Today you are neglected.”

Quran 20:124-126

Show me Allah is out there? You have nothing to support your case!  Big Grin
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(23-02-2025, 04:02 PM)Hope Wrote:  Whoever Allah allows to stray, none can guide, leaving them to wander blindly in their defiance.”Quran 7:186

The Quran itself proves Islam is fake. Let’s look at one example shall we?

In the Quran, the Christian concept of the Trinity is addressed in several verses, particularly in Surah 4:171, Surah 5:73-74, and Surah 5:116. Here are the relevant excerpts:

Surah 4:171

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

Surah 5:73-74

They have certainly disbelieved who say, “Allah is the third of three.” And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Surah 5:116

And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?’” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.”

From these verses, it is evident that whoever wrote the Quran had a fundamental misunderstanding of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. The Quran interprets the Trinity as consisting of Allah, Jesus, and Mary, which is simply not true.

No Christian denomination, including Roman Catholics, nor any sects, worship Mary as the third member of the Trinity. The Trinity in Christian doctrine is strictly understood as God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.

The Quran got it wrong.

The Quran is an untrustworthy source.

Islam is a false religion.
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